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[Chrysippus]

Remind me not to ask y'all to drinks and dinner...

 

[marinera]

Heaven forbid!

Wait, you can't know that!

 

[798686]

Remind me not to ask y'all to drinks and dinner...

It would be a barrel of laughs.

 

[798686]

Wait, you can't know that!

I know.

Unfortunately - I think you're probably correct.

Christianity vs Islam. Christianity v Christianity (again). Europe v China/Russia? (Eeek).

 

[deleted37010]

Remind me not to ask y'all to drinks and dinner...

hey... i rarely drool in public and i'm house broken.. more or less... what more do you want?

 

[marinera]

Ok, let's be serious for a second. maybe some people don't know that European Religious Wars killed 7,500,000 people (at a time there were 100 millions of inhabitants at most I gues) and were fought exclusively between christians (so those should be called European Christian Wars, but that is not politically correct). Just saying.


A second is passed.

 

[malakos]

Yeah, but as derails go, it was a more comfortable discussion to have than arguing with people who are basically implying that Islam as a whole is a religion of terrorists.

That... would be a sloppy way of putting it. It would indeed appear to be a religion which, at its fundaments (as demonstrated by the recorded actions of Muhammad and his disciples and the instructions he gave for Muslims), was/is a brutally militant religion and would suggest terroristic strategies if/when they serve the propagation of Islam. But that is not the same as saying "all Muslims are terrorists". The latter is obviously not true. Although the % of Muslims worldwide who would lend soft support to terroristic ideologues is far too high.

 

[marinera]

Malakos, did you know that most of Muslims are not even arabs? Just saying.

 

[798686]

hey... i rarely drool in public and i'm house broken.. more or less... what more do you want?

I always drool in public - that's why I'm at the top of his list.

 

[ConanTheBarber]

I always drool in public - that's why I'm at the top of his list.

You always get your ends confused. That's called dribbling -- not drooling.

 

[Chrysippus]

Malakos, did you know

Subject incapable of verb...

 

[malakos]

Malakos, did you know that most of Muslims are not even arabs? Just saying.

Of course. I'm aware of the prevalence of Islam throughout the northern half of Africa, Central Asia, the Indian subcontinent, and maritime Southeast Asia. Even that many Middle Eastern Muslims aren't Arabs (Turks, Iranians, Kurds, Berbers, etc). I didn't say anything about Arabs. So I'm curious why you're mentioning it?

 

[marinera]

Of course. Why do you ask?

Because your statement. Where are those muslims giving 'soft support' to islamic terrorism? Your statement that islam is 'at its fundaments a brutally militant religion' is ludicrous. It is not more 'brutally militant' than other monotheistic religions. The reasons behind terrorism are political, not religious. The people who have committed terrorist attacks in europe are typically people unsatisfied with theirs social status, a history of crimes and loose religiosity, not fanatics who stay in the mosque 24/24. Some of them had/have a very superficial knowledge of islam. It is pretty much the profile of Irish suicidal bombers.

 

[malakos]

Subject incapable of verb...

 

[marinera]

Bollocks. They go around in pairs.

 

[joeblack62]

You don't need to tell me about Southern white Christian history. I'm Southern, white and Christian...

Who could have guessed?

 

[deleted37010]

You don't need to tell me about Southern white Christian history. I'm Southern, white and Christian. I know the history better than most. I lived it or had relatives who did. But how many of those folks left these shores and bombed arenas in the name of Southern white Christianity? How many of them flew airplanes into buildings in the name of Southern white Christianity? How many of them tried to conquer foreign nations in the name of Southern white Christianity?

southern white christianity

.... from UNC–Chapel Hill Professor Emeritus Donald G. Mathews, who wrote in the Journal of Southern Religion about sacred order, which mean white supremacy and holiness, which translates into white virtue.

“Religion permeated communal lynching because the act occurred within the context of a sacred order designed to sustain holiness,” Mathews wrote.

 

[coopturn]

Who could have guessed?

Oh I don't know, most likely a prejudiced person giving to stereotyping

southern white christianity

.... from UNC–Chapel Hill Professor Emeritus Donald G. Mathews, who wrote in the Journal of Southern Religion about sacred order, which mean white supremacy and holiness, which translates into white virtue.

“Religion permeated communal lynching because the act occurred within the context of a sacred order designed to sustain holiness,” Mathews wrote.

Thanks, doesn't really answer my questions, though. And as was stated earlier, for the most part, the white, Southern Protestant denominations have largely evolved on this. Even the SBC issued a formal apology for their participation in this, which not only persecuted blacks, but Jews and even other Christians like those who were members of my denomination.

 

[StormfrontFL]

Oh boy, you're desperate now. Just because I didn't provide you with information in the terms YOU specified doesn't mitigate its validity which confirms my claim. Did you even read the report from the State Department?

"The GTD staff compiled the Statistical Annex dataset to include violent acts carried out by non-state actors that meet all of the GTD inclusion criteria:

1. The violent act was aimed at attaining a political, economic, religious, or social goal;"

"While the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) was responsible for 31% fewer terrorist attacks in Iraq, the number of attacks carried out by ISIL in Syria increased by 39%. The geographic reach of attacks by ISIL and its affiliates expanded as several existing terrorist groups pledged allegiance to ISIL. In addition to Boko Haram in West Africa, the most active of these ISIL branches were located in Afghanistan/Pakistan, Egypt, Libya, and Yemen."

ISIL, let's see, what group do they claim affiliation with and in whose name do they commit these acts? Hmmm, the Lutherans? Doesnt sound right. Which group could it be? The Moonies?

Boko Haram, what about these clowns? Which religious group to they claim? The Assemblies of God? No, I haven't noticed the Bokos speaking in tongues. Oh I know, how about the Hare Krishnas? Hmmm, doesn't seem right either.

"Information about perpetrator groups was reported for two-thirds of all attacks in Afghanistan in 2015 (67%). Nearly all of these (95%) were attributed to the Taliban."

The Taliban. Aren't they with the Scientologists? Well, that doesn't sound right either.

By the way, please list the Christian affiliated groups on the State Department's list.

You were the one who stated that it was a large percentage of Muslims that were terrorists. I simply asked you for proof of your statement. It's okay. Just say you don't have any.

 

[Industrialsize]

Oh boy, you're desperate now. Just because I didn't provide you with information in the terms YOU specified doesn't mitigate its validity which confirms my claim. Did you even read the report from the State Department?

"The GTD staff compiled the Statistical Annex dataset to include violent acts carried out by non-state actors that meet all of the GTD inclusion criteria:

1. The violent act was aimed at attaining a political, economic, religious, or social goal;"

"While the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) was responsible for 31% fewer terrorist attacks in Iraq, the number of attacks carried out by ISIL in Syria increased by 39%. The geographic reach of attacks by ISIL and its affiliates expanded as several existing terrorist groups pledged allegiance to ISIL. In addition to Boko Haram in West Africa, the most active of these ISIL branches were located in Afghanistan/Pakistan, Egypt, Libya, and Yemen."

ISIL, let's see, what group do they claim affiliation with and in whose name do they commit these acts? Hmmm, the Lutherans? Doesnt sound right. Which group could it be? The Moonies?

Boko Haram, what about these clowns? Which religious group to they claim? The Assemblies of God? No, I haven't noticed the Bokos speaking in tongues. Oh I know, how about the Hare Krishnas? Hmmm, doesn't seem right either.

"Information about perpetrator groups was reported for two-thirds of all attacks in Afghanistan in 2015 (67%). Nearly all of these (95%) were attributed to the Taliban."

The Taliban. Aren't they with the Scientologists? Well, that doesn't sound right either.

By the way, please list the Christian affiliated groups on the State Department's list.

1.6 billion Muslims
There were 1.6 billion Muslims in the world as of 2010 – roughly 23% of the global population – according to a Pew Research Center estimate. But while Islam is currently the world's second-largest religion (after Christianity), it is the fastest-growing major religion.