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Rites of passage comes up periodically. It hit a heyday in the 90's with the poem "Iron John" followed up by the creation of the New Warrior movement. These celebrate the sacred masculine, borrowing from many traditions - without religious, sexual or orientation overtones - and address the aspect of rites of passage of men and create opportunities to examine one's own issues as a man.

It was a fantastic experience for me.
 

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wow this is pretty literal... I guess i was thinking of something a bit more imaginative... maybe at age 18 you are robed and masked and led into a body sized clear glass tube that is faceted where only your body outline can be seen- as a (safe and perfected) mixture of nitrous oxide and poppers are mixed into a warm steamy fog, where you are witnessed by all of your male relatives and friends as you jack off and produce a ritual load thru a hole- sort of an update to the African fertility rite...?
Disturbing and rather disgusting to say the least.
 

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As stated above by earlogjam, there aren't any formalized rituals in the US for entry into manhood in our modern age. Perhaps then, we need to see equivalents that are much more informal as well as subtle, but still a statement of manhood, or that one is entering into it; that is to say, situations where boys do something as a "I am a real boy/man" statement.

In redneck land, getting your first truck symbolizing manhood? A boy participating in high school football to appear more viril? Learning to piss at a urinal a certain way (seems weird, but "some" learn to do things "like a man")? Getting a girl pregnant, despite the negative backlash is you're unfit father? Fistfights in certain social situations?

And the list could go on and on...
 

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Thanks Hoss - I was starting to think I was the only one.
I'm wondering if the moderators plan to allow it because he is playing nonsense games with 'only your body outline can be seen'. Since it is a ritual and it is known who is in the glass tube and male relatives are to be there it is rather obvious who is in there, which supposedly violates the rules here.

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Inappropriate content involving minors, animals, incest, or fecal excrement - by minors we mean those under the age of 18, incest is sexual acts of any kind between relatives, regardless of their age or relation to each other (brother/sister/father/mother and so on)."


Perhaps the rules will now be hastily amended to read "masturbating in front of family members is fine if they can't clearly see your face":rolleyes:
 

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if my suggestion is offensive, censor it- i don't mind in the least. No offense or breaking the rules was intended- I was just trying to pick up and run an idea that has been around for a long time (that of families getting together to celebrate that special event.) And I was going for something that is a public show of maleness that can be witnessed by all- nothing incestuous. Other cultures have had these types of rites since the beginning of time, and they were not seen as disturbing.

It strikes to the very purpose of the board: to speak of the roles that our gender, our motives/actions, and even our genitals play in our society- and to give us (as a group) the freedom (and fun) to talk about it, and highlight the impacts of changes as they happen.
 
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if my suggestion is offensive, censor it- i don't mind in the least. No offense or breaking the rules was intended- I was just trying to pick up and run an idea that has been around for a long time (that of families getting together to celebrate that special event.) And I was going for something that is a public show of maleness that can be witnessed by all- nothing incestuous. Other cultures have had these types of rites since the beginning of time, and they were not seen as disturbing.

It strikes to the very purpose of the board: to speak of the roles that our gender, our motives/actions, and even our genitals play in our society- and to give us (as a group) the freedom (and fun) to talk about it, and highlight the impacts of changes as they happen.

You can't invent something and then tell people it isn't disturbing on the basis of, 'it used to happen a long time ago'. If you're really interested in finding a modern ritual then you should think of something that fits within modern acceptability.
 

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Well... the manhood ritual that I might most like to see would be something like... having to get a job, and earn the money to buy the first car you will ever be allowed to drive.

No help from parents.


Or, not being allowed to have an orgasm during sex until you have given some woman 10.
 
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Write a hand written letter, address and mail it.

If you j/o with another bud, be willing to admit without shame.

No hitting of woman.

File your taxes, vote, jury duty if called,
 

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if my suggestion is offensive, censor it- i don't mind in the least. No offense or breaking the rules was intended- I was just trying to pick up and run an idea that has been around for a long time (that of families getting together to celebrate that special event.) And I was going for something that is a public show of maleness that can be witnessed by all- nothing incestuous. Other cultures have had these types of rites since the beginning of time, and they were not seen as disturbing.

It strikes to the very purpose of the board: to speak of the roles that our gender, our motives/actions, and even our genitals play in our society- and to give us (as a group) the freedom (and fun) to talk about it, and highlight the impacts of changes as they happen.

B.S. and you know it.

You designed a "Ritual" where the 1 male and only 1 male has turned 18, not a group of young men, just the 1. This "Ritual" that you have has not just his friends......and this may be an age matter as well regarding legality since it is rare indeed that an 18 year old would have not have any friends under 18 but that is a separate issue.

Back to the "Ritual" the 1 male at the Ritual that has turned 18 is now in a body fitting tube and not only are all his male friends there, but every male relative.....

All male relatives and this 18 year old masturbating.......and you really pretend there is nothing at all sick or incestuous in nature about this. You think by having only "a body outline" it makes it okay? It is known who is in there. Grandfathers uncles brothers and father all KNOW fucking full and well who is in the tube. It's not like it's some other man's relative.

But go right on and play your disgusting and sick fantasy masturbate to your heart's content.


So to recap:::
Male turns 18, his Dad, his uncles, his brothers, his male cousins all gather and watch him masturbate. We will presume they are at least all over the age of 18. His friends all watch as well. We will presume they are over the age of 18.

One last thing, you claim that this is a type of ritual which other cultures have been doing for a long time or as you say "SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME" .......Really? Care to tell us which ones because I can't recall any culture with men masturbating in front of all their male relatives as a coming of age ritual within any society.
 

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Or, not being allowed to have an orgasm during sex until you have given some woman 10.

That does not make one a man - nor does the the inability to do it make one not a man. I mean what about the poor guy with the inorgasmic girlfriend? Is he not a man because his woman is wired different? Not to mention the fact that you seem think a woman's orgasm is dependent on the manliness of her partner. Poor ol' lesbians! What a dry old time they must have!

What a load of phallocentric horseshit! :rolleyes:
 

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It's interesting how the OP flags up rather mundane stuff like 'getting a drivers license, graduation from high school, getting plastered on your 21st birthday' none of which are specific to men, by the way. And yet his own idea of a 'manhood ritual' is to jerk off in front of male relatives.

And why should masturbation be thought of as 'male'? It's not by any means an activity exclusive to men.

Something I've noticed more and more on these threads is a tendency for absolutely everything to be viewed in sexualised manner - from changing rooms, to male friendships, to family members - which I find both creepy and disturbing.
 
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I might get burned for this but the whole idea of having to go through something to prove your manhood seems barbaric. I remember seeing the same episode of taboo.

The same with modern "rituals" why do we have to put a big definition on a man or woman? Shouldn't we put more value on character and personality?

That being said I would consider someone mature once they can forgive themselves along with other. also when they can take full responsibility for their own actions.

if we held everyone by those standards, then very few can claim they have reached manhood or womanhood. :)
 

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A common male ritual that father does with a son his letting the son use his cologne. I remember going through my father's dress jacket and tie, he did not say anything.

When my son was little, he used to pull on my shoes when I got home, and walk around the home and said I am Daddy. I had to take a pictures.
 

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A common male ritual that father does with a son his letting the son use his cologne. I remember going through my father's dress jacket and tie, he did not say anything.

When my son was little, he used to pull on my shoes when I got home, and walk around the home and said I am Daddy. I had to take a pictures.

lucky you. an experience like that sounds amazing. i used to pretend shaving while my dad was shaving himself.

Also it was pretty cool when he let me steer the car while i was on his lap. just on the drive. lol
 

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That does not make one a man - nor does the the inability to do it make one not a man. I mean what about the poor guy with the inorgasmic girlfriend? Is he not a man because his woman is wired different? Not to mention the fact that you seem think a woman's orgasm is dependent on the manliness of her partner. Poor ol' lesbians! What a dry old time they must have!

What a load of phallocentric horseshit! :rolleyes:

Your misunderstanding of what I wrote is very revealing.

Far from a 'phallocentric' perspective, the idea is that a man is not a man until he learns that his partner's pleasure matters more than his own.
The idea being to teach young men to be LESS self centered in their sexual pursuits and in their treatment of women.

Try pulling your head out of your prejudice and recognizing that,
A. it was stated literally tongue in cheek.

B. MOST men bring their partner to orgasm with their tongue, not their "phallus".

C. that women who are truly non-orgasmic are actually rarer than winning lottery tickets... that most women with difficulty have issues with trust, with sexual repression, with guilt... ALL of which can be made the lesser by a lover who is kind, compassionate, patient and selfless.

D. That my attitude reflects the notion that we teach young men to actually be sensitive to how the woman feels.

E. That ALL of the above was actually the point... not the obviously ridiculous literal reading of the humor in which it was framed.


so, really... grow a lobe.