Manhunt Scandal - Co-founder donates to McCain??!?

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  1. B_VinylBoy

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    How's this for irrelevant, yet spicy drama?
    Apparently, the owner of the well known M2M cruise site Manhunt has been exposed for making donations to the McCain camp. Not only has this pissed off many gay men who are on the site, but it also puts into question where McCain is getting some of his campaign dollars.

    Not that I really criticize anyone for being on Manhunt (and believe me, some profiles have been VERY nice to peek at when I'm alone with nobody to play with). But I always find it a little troubling when I see fellow gay & lesbian people support those who are openly adamant to vote negatively on causes that concern them. Gays in the Military? Same Sex Marriage? Anti-Hate Crime bills? AIDS Research? Not to say that McCain is against all of this, but his stance on the majority of them clearly show that he doesn't really care about the rights or well being of homosexuals at all. If your bread and butter depends heavily on the gay community, WHY even consider giving McCain a penny for his causes?
     
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    :yikes: WTF?!?! That makes no sense but I guess he's just another hypocrite making a buck off those he disdains. He didn't obviously thinks anyone who frequents Manhunt is too dumb to vote or be aware of where the candidates stand on the important issues.
     
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    Surely you've heard of : Log Cabin Republicans - Home
     
  4. B_VinylBoy

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    Yes I have. I personally think the whole concept is one living oxymoron, but I digress...

    All I know is that I would be pretty pissed if I supported any kind of organization that claimed to be supportive of the gay community, then would financially back a political candidate that goes completely against their ideals. That would be like LOGO giving donations to Fred Phelps. Just so many levels of hypocrisy to dig through.
     
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    Yes, but do you really think Manhunt members are limited to being Log Cabin Republicans?
     
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    McCain has several pro-gay positions: lower taxes, fighting crime, more drilling... They're good for everyone else too.
     
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    Lowering taxes won't help out the gay or lesbian couple who want to raise a child. Drilling for oil won't prevent the government from taking away all financial assets of the deceased from a loved one all because the state they resided in doesn't acknowledge any form of same sex partnership. Fighting crime is nice, but does this include the people who decide it's OK to hurt or kill someone just because he's gay? He did vote not to include "sexual orientation" as a condition for hate crimes.

    We're talking about a candidate that has a flawed view on civil rights towards gay & lesbian people, and how some people are crazy enough to use money made from these people to fund the efforts of those who are basically against them. That's the issue we're bringing up here.
     
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    That Log Cabin business is a hot mess. I saw the documentary about them, as I sat there stunned at the whole spectacle, I kept asking myself "What is wrong with these people?" George Buch hates fags, republican or democrat he cannot abide them. (I would imagine McCain isn't going to be any different.)

    I think the whole thing is ridiculous.

    The guy that owns manhunt is obviously MENTAL!
     
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    Or an opportunist trying to hedge his bets. Like how the big corporations donate to both political parties.

    I can't WAIT til the evangelicals gets a hold of THIS. "McCain accepts money from gay pornographer" :rolleyes: OK I KNOW that isn't true but I know that's how the Pat Robertsons of the world would phrase it. It's more of a a gay hookup, I mean social, site. And some of them have nude pix of themselves displayed :biggrin1:
     
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    I'll tackle those in order:

    You can adopt a child as an individual. Wouldn't it be easy for one parent to legally adopt the child, then have the other live with them or be designated as a guardian? The only time it would become an issue is in divorce.

    A will can make the second issue completely moot. The only time the government takes assets away from dead people is when they are rich; it's called a death tax. McCain opposes that, Obama supports it. And you know what, it's just as bad for gay people as it is for straight people.

    Hate crimes are stupid. If you hurt or kill someone, you should be punished for it, plain and simple. It doesn't matter if the crime is committed because the victim is gay or because the criminal wanted some of the victim's pound cake.

    Lowering taxes and drilling for oil may not help a gay couple adopt, but it will certainly help the newly adoptive couple struggling to pay $5 for a gallon of gas in California.

    McCain may not hold the views you like on gay rights, but you should be able to put that aside temporarily if he would be a better President for the whole country.
     
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    Many single parents have been denied the right to adopt just on the ideal that being raised by two parents instead of one is better for the child. That happens to gay & straight people alike. I don't see how a gay man, who in most cases is already being denied this right because of their lifestyle, would have any better chances if they were also trying to go at it alone. That's a double whammy that's hard to surpass for most adoption services.

    If you live in a state that doesn't acknowledge any form of same sex partnership (marriage or domestic partnership), the will of a deceased gay or lesbian person can be considered null and void. In the past, many people have tried to leave their homes, financial assets, children or whatever to their same sex partner and have had them taken away by the state. Ironically, a heterosexual person can leave their fortune to their pet and they will honor it. How fair is that?

    Can't really comment about the whole "death tax" thing. Will have to look that up some more and see how it applies.

    Hate crimes are in existence based on race, religion and many other social aspects of life. People like Matthew Shephard were killed because he was gay. His killers admitted this. An openly gay 15 year old boy from California who was killed by an 8th Grader because he asked him to be his valentine. Another case of of being killed because the victim was gay. How about the Jenny Jones scandal where a young man exposed a secret crush to another male and he was killed by that guy just days later? In every incident, the reason of death is because the victim was gay. We can't ignore that as an excuse or an alibi in these rare cases, just as we can't ignore people who kill someone because they're Black, Hispanic or whatever race... or Jewish, Muslim or whatever religion.

    A more sure-fire way to take care of this is to impose some kind of investigation over the way most oil companies conduct their business and to seek out alternative fuel sources like wind & solar power. Giving someone yet another tax break that barely can pay for a month of relief, knowing that every other aspect of life has gone up dramatically, is like putting a band-aid on an open sore without any ointment to treat the cut.

    Civil Rights is just one reason why I won't vote for McCain. I don't like his stance on the war, on the majority of issues concerning health care and I also don't agree with key issues on Gun Control & Education. Not to turn this away from my OP, but I've educated myself enough to come up with my decision. If anything, I posted this story about Manhunt just to point out how hypocritical some of our political leaders tend to be. Playing to some fictional image on camera, and secretly lying down with those they're against in the background. And it happens on both ends of the political spectrum. If Obama was openly against civil rights against gay & lesbians and the co-founder of Manhunt donated to him, I would be equally as vocal.
     
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    perhaps the donor is thinking of the nation's greater good

    which may not have anything to do with the immediate needs of a self-defined special interest group?

    wild thought, eh?
     
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    You are focusing on one area of what's being campaigned about. The owner told that he did it because he believed McCain was better for the economy and a better qualified leader. If you think getting Obama elected is going to automatically change everything the way you want it, you better think again. The states still have control of the right to determine who can marry, and adoption. The federal government does not have jurisdiction over such things.
     
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    Yes.......But when States Like Massachusetts and California make same sex marriage legal.....the FEDERAL Government DOES have power and chooses NOT to recognize those marriages and bestow the FEDERAL benefits that would be bestowed on a traditional marriage. The Defense of Marriage act is the legal impediment. Senator Obama favors its repeal in its entirety. Senator Mccain does not.
     
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    Manhunt.com is a business entity, a "for-profit" business entity - a business entity that pays taxes. I think BOTH candidates have been pretty open about what their intentions are with respect to taxes.

    Makes perfect sense why they would make a McCain donation. Let's face it, some people just vote with their wallet - and that crosses all demographics (national or international).
     
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    Oh, shit. :eek: No wonder I couldn't get a date using Manhunt. :confused:

     
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    This is about money. Period. Crutchley is a millionaire and wants to protect his millions. Its fun to watch how it backfired but I'm sure this is a public relations issue moreso than a financial one. Has anyone cancelled their Manhunt account over this? The handful that have will be back online trolling dick when the controversy passes.
     
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    Does anyone know what McCain's ManHunt profile name is?
     
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    It is MyNameIsNotMcCain.
     
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