MARK SALLING, "Puck" from GLEE

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Cursing is more acceptable after all and possibly the only thing you are good at..
Read my statement first , then probably you will see that i am AGAINST any short of violence, phisycal or mental. Which part didnt you get?
I am sorry for you dealing with that awuful expreience, but this is completely different.
Preventing a person's death - no matter IF he is guilty or not- is what the law FAILED to do in this case.
I do not applaud this kind of behaviour, such as sexual violence or illegal filming of minors. Period
But in this specific case that is mentioned in this thread, the law clearly failed to provide equal protection to BOTH sides.

You should probably quit while you're behind. I clearly read your points, which is why I noted, from every angle, why your reasoning is unacceptable and dangerous. If your first and most apparent take-away from my detailed, thorough, fact-based response was to limit my "cursing" (you're very lucky I didn't say more), then you continue to be out of your depth and quite frankly a deplorable human being. I will not revisit the points you made because I already did the first time. Maybe you should be the one to read it again.
 

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The post was meant to be like this. As vague as the details of this case. Was he framed or he deserved it? I dont know. I hate the fact that no matter what, the law wont protect both sides equally. They will provide protection to the "pure" minors against the "evil" adults. Protection only for the "pure" minors, who may never, experience any problem in their lives. On the other hand, the "evil" adult was blocked out in various ways, socially and morally blah blah, but NOT protected. The pressure build up, led to the worst sentence of all. Just not equal... And to straighten things out, I tottaly hate kiddie porn or any porn which is done without asking for someone's consent before filming their private moments. But i certainly hate even more, claiming someone's life.

Posts like this raise so many questions about how/why you would espouse such bizarre ideas. Were you molested? Are you a molester? It's difficult to understand how someone would say what you've said if there isn't some personal disruption in your life. I hope not. If so, though, seek counseling. And maybe seek counseling even if not, because the view you express is borderline sociopath.

You do take a good picture, though, for what that's worth.
 
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Don't you think that if he wanted help, he would have sought it?

Well, let’s walk through that.

We don’t know if the sexual feeling toward children started before or after he first downloaded illegal porn, but for argument’s sake let’s say it did.

Before he downloads the first illegal porn he has the inappropriate thoughts and wants to get help. What does he do? Who does he tell? Family? How do you tell a family member you’re sexually attracted to children? Hell, we all know what coming out as gay is like. Telling someone you love that you are aroused by kids probably seems impossible. So...then what? Therapist? Maybe. Again, the overwhelming guilt, the fear of rejection, the fear of it getting out and everyone knowing, ending his career, etc. Is this what he should have done? Absolutely, but it must have felt impossible.

Now, AFTER he downloads the first picture or video of illegal porn, what does he do? He can’t tell a therapist. They’re mandated reporters and any professional he tells will have to call the police and report the downloading as a crime. I can’t imagine it’s an easy decision to decide to tell a professional, knowing it was going to put you in jail, end your career, break your family ties, and make you wind up on a sex offender list for the rest of your life. Any family members or friends he tells would disown him and most likely call the police. He could destroy his hard drive (which is also apparently a crime, since it’s destroying the evidence of a crime), but without help...would his own willpower be enough to stop?

How do these people get help for thoughts they can’t control, especially after they’ve crossed a huge legal line by downloading? Writing them off as monsters and saying “chop their balls off” and just straight up “kill’em!” is unhelpful. Suicide shouldn’t be the solution.

I don’t know what the solution is, but I think there IS one out there for someone smarter than me to come up with. Following the natural impulse of “they can’t be helped, fuck’em” is stupid and inhuman. All of these people were children once too. They’re someone’s son or daughter. In every other aspect of their lives they could be outstanding citizens. Good, kind people. Except for this one sick compulsion...they could be just like you or me.

So yeah, I think it’s sad. *shrug*
 
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Well, let’s walk through that.

We don’t know if the sexual feeling toward children started before or after he first downloaded illegal porn, but for argument’s sake let’s say it did.

Before he downloads the first illegal porn he has the inappropriate thoughts and wants to get help. What does he do? Who does he tell? Family? How do you tell a family member you’re sexually attracted to children? Hell, we all know what coming out as gay is like. Telling someone you love that you are aroused by kids probably seems impossible. So...then what? Therapist? Maybe. Again, the overwhelming guilt, the fear of rejection, the fear of it getting out and everyone knowing, ending his career, etc. Is this what he should have done? Absolutely, but it must have felt impossible.

Now, AFTER he downloads the first picture or video of illegal porn, what does he do? He can’t tell a therapist. They’re mandated reporters and any professional he tells will have to call the police and report the downloading as a crime. I can’t imagine it’s an easy decision to decide to tell a professional, knowing it was going to put you in jail, end your career, break your family ties, and make you wind up on a sex offender list for the rest of your life. Any family members or friends he tells would disown him and most likely call the police. He could destroy his hard drive (which is also apparently a crime, since it’s destroying the evidence of a crime), but without help...would his own willpower be enough to stop?

How do these people get help for thoughts they can’t control, especially after they’ve crossed a huge legal line by downloading? Writing them off as monsters and saying “chop their balls off” and just straight up “kill’em!” is unhelpful. Suicide shouldn’t be the solution.

I don’t know what the solution is, but I think there IS one out there for someone smarter than me to come up with. Following the natural impulse of “they can’t be helped, fuck’em” is stupid and inhuman. All of these people were children once too. They’re someone’s son or daughter. In every other aspect of their lives they could be outstanding citizens. Good, kind people. Except for this one sick compulsion...they could be just like you or me.

So yeah, I think it’s sad. *shrug*
Well, let’s walk through that.

We don’t know if the sexual feeling toward children started before or after he first downloaded illegal porn, but for argument’s sake let’s say it did.

Before he downloads the first illegal porn he has the inappropriate thoughts and wants to get help. What does he do? Who does he tell? Family? How do you tell a family member you’re sexually attracted to children? Hell, we all know what coming out as gay is like. Telling someone you love that you are aroused by kids probably seems impossible. So...then what? Therapist? Maybe. Again, the overwhelming guilt, the fear of rejection, the fear of it getting out and everyone knowing, ending his career, etc. Is this what he should have done? Absolutely, but it must have felt impossible.

Now, AFTER he downloads the first picture or video of illegal porn, what does he do? He can’t tell a therapist. They’re mandated reporters and any professional he tells will have to call the police and report the downloading as a crime. I can’t imagine it’s an easy decision to decide to tell a professional, knowing it was going to put you in jail, end your career, break your family ties, and make you wind up on a sex offender list for the rest of your life. Any family members or friends he tells would disown him and most likely call the police. He could destroy his hard drive (which is also apparently a crime, since it’s destroying the evidence of a crime), but without help...would his own willpower be enough to stop?

How do these people get help for thoughts they can’t control, especially after they’ve crossed a huge legal line by downloading? Writing them off as monsters and saying “chop their balls off” and just straight up “kill’em!” is unhelpful. Suicide shouldn’t be the solution.

I don’t know what the solution is, but I think there IS one out there for someone smarter than me to come up with. Following the natural impulse of “they can’t be helped, fuck’em” is stupid and inhuman. All of these people were children once too. They’re someone’s son or daughter. In every other aspect of their lives they could be outstanding citizens. Good, kind people. Except for this one sick compulsion...they could be just like you or me.

So yeah, I think it’s sad. *shrug*
You seem compassionate and that is very kind of you.
But the reality played itself out for everyone to see anyway.
This man had a sexual obsession for children. There is no gray area for this, its just straight up disgusting.
 

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You seem compassionate and that is very kind of you.
But the reality played itself out for everyone to see anyway.
This man had a sexual obsession for children. There is no gray area for this, its just straight up disgusting.

I don’t think anyone in this thread has said it isn’t disgusting. It’s an obsession he didn’t choose to have though, which was my point. So spitting on his grave and saying you hope he rots in hell is crappy, IMO, and it ignores the reality that there are literally millions of people like him. Should they ALL kill themselves? If your answer is no, then I direct you to my initial post.
 
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I don’t think anyone in this thread has said it isn’t disgusting. It’s an obsession he didn’t choose to have though, which was my point. So spitting on his grave and saying you hope he rots in hell is crappy, IMO, and it ignores the reality that there are literally millions of people like him. Should they ALL kill themselves? If your answer is no, then I direct you to my initial post.
Don't put words in my mouth, first of all. Secondly, re-direct yourself to my original post.
I don’t think anyone in this thread has said it isn’t disgusting. It’s an obsession he didn’t choose to have though, which was my point. So spitting on his grave and saying you hope he rots in hell is crappy, IMO, and it ignores the reality that there are literally millions of people like him. Should they ALL kill themselves? If your answer is no, then I direct you to my initial post.
I never said that I hope he rots in hell, you must have my comment mixed up with someone else's.
 

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Any updates on him?
Im sorry! i clearly was not familiar with his backstory or the fact that he passed away. I did not mean to upset anyone so i want to take back my quote. I should have done a little research
 
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