Marx and Lenin were right!!!

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  1. BF2K

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    The rich are raping and pillaging the earth for their own good!! We all need to rise up and take what is ours, and what is theirs. Workers of the world "Unite!!!" Al Gore is right, global warming will be our undoing!!
     
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    What's your point?
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    so "Michelle Bachman Lies!!" and "Martial Law in Michigan" are OK? The subject of Marx and Lenin open plenty of avenues of discussion!!
     
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    * Don't feed the trolls, don't feed the trolls, don't feed the trolls . . . . *
     
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    Right about wich?
    That killing the top layer of society is justifyed only because a bunch of ignorant retards happend to be less intellectual?

    Besides, workers could not even wipe their own ass if entrepreneurs wherent around.
     
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    * Don't feed the trolls, don't feed the trolls, don't feed the trolls, don't feed the trolls, . . . . *
     
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    Are you calling me a "troll"? Michelle Bachman, Scott Wilson and others were elected by the people in their districts or states. If they are NOT doing the will of the people they will lose in the next election. This is how a Republic works. Elected officials are not elected to leave the state to avoid voting and therefore their responsibilities to represent those who elected them. I admit that my post was a bit provocative.
     
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    I'm sorry, sir. I don't play mental gymnastics in print with illiterates.
     
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    Maybe I'm dense, but I'm not following the leap from Marx and Lenin (subject of OP) to Bachman and Wilson.

    The point is obviously to stir up shit with pointless nonsense and failed sarcasm.

     
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    Just because you disagree with me doesn't make me "illiterate" as you say. Just don't try to impose YOUR opinions on others because you think you are right and others are wrong. "Right" and "Wrong" are a matter of perspective and that's why we have a democracy and not a dictatorship in the US. I will fight to the death for your right to express your opinion but I will also fight to the death to be able to express my own.
     
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    I don't see the purpose of this post and after several other posts in this thread you have failed to contribute to a conversation of the topic.

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    Ashes to ashes
    Dust to dust
     
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    sorry, but there is clearly a double standard here. Incendiary posts from the left that have no factual backing what so ever. I apologize for playing the same game but the topic of discussion is relevant and highly important. In US politics there should be debate, open and direct, and if the "people" are not in agreement with their elected officials they will be voted out of office and replaced. The "majority" should not "impose" their views and the "minority" should not hold the majority hostage to their views. Maybe I should have started the thread on a different note, but the debate is the same.
     
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    That's not true. In fact, the two threads you cited, "Michelle Bachman Lies!!" and "Martial Law in Michigan", are both focused on specific current events, the OP expresses a clear point of view for the debate, and both are backed up by citation in the form of links to outside material. You only read them as "incendiary" because they go against your hardcore ideology.

    By contrast, your post is comprised of nothing more than vague, sarcastic generalities and ideological pokes in the eye designed to elicit a negative reaction. In short, shit stirring.

    You haven't presented any discernible topic for discussion.

    No it's not. If you can't see the difference, you need to retire from this forum. There is no "double standard".
     
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    Is that Bernard Marx & Lenina in Brave New World by Aldous Huxley? Read that, Animal Farm & 1984 by Orwell, & you'll realise that that's the world we live in already.

    On a personal note, I lived in one of that sponging, get another man to admit parentage to your bastard, knock out 7 kids yet never do paid work, complain about the wealthy, but be financed by bankers & the rich, Karl Marx's residences once.

    Like him, it was ultimately very disappointing, & could never work out.
     
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    As opposed to this thread, which is just laden with facts, figures, intelligent articles and discourse.

    Be the change you want to see, my man.
     
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    While it's true that rich people do often engage in corrupt activity that ruins life for everybody else except themselves; the fact is, a Communist government is also a corrupt institution that ruins life for everybody except a small number of powerful elite.

    Just say no to communism...

    BTW: I think there is a new astroturf (false grassroots) movement underway similar to the TEA Party, except that it is left-wing oriented rather than the right-wing orientation of the TEA-Party. I assume it is financed by powerful left-wing interests such as George Soros. The answer of course can always be found by following the money-trail back to it's origin
     
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    And rich people! :wink:

    Seriously, though, the problem isn't with communism per se, the problem is that communism as it's been implemented has been a total disaster; the reason is simple: all communist governments have been set up as one-party dictatorships, thus they benefit a small elite at the expense of everyone else - not the original goal at all! I'm not a communist by any stretch of the imagination, but the goal of a society where everyone pitches in and everyone benefits does have a certain appeal; I believe that that same goal can be achieved through real (i.e. non-corporatist) capitalism however.

    As to the problem with some (not all) rich people, it basically comes down to the fact that they claim to be capitalists, but instead are economic elitists (i.e. "the little people" exist solely to provide resources for Our consumption). We all know what happens when "the little people" get fed up with being exploited...French Revolution anyone? Calling the poor lazy because they're not rich (despite the fact that they work two jobs and are still not earning enough to get by because that would cut into the bottom line and thus, the profits of the rich) is getting to be the equivalent of "let them eat cake."
     
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    Citation please.

    > Viva! <
     
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    The rich pillage when in power.

    The 'poor' get lazy and production goes to crap while an elite social class emerges with communism.

    Can we get some balance please.
     
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