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When I get a massage, I expect a massage. A professional massage.

What sex-hungry men have done to the profession is pretty horrific. And did you know how tied to sex trafficking massage parlours are? That ‘happy ending’ for you may be forced prostitution for someone else.
 

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When I get a massage, I expect a massage. A professional massage.

What sex-hungry men have done to the profession is pretty horrific. And did you know how tied to sex trafficking massage parlours are? That ‘happy ending’ for you may be forced prostitution for someone else.

well I normally get massages from guys so i don't really support that...
 

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well I normally get massages from guys so i don't really support that...
You’re still disrespecting the profession. It de-legimatizes the people who work hard to develop their skills, maintain their licences, and build a career.
 
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+1 to @LaFemme .

Its frustrating that because of the "happy ending" connotation that some spas instruct their therapists to avoid butts and chests to ensure there is no question of appropriateness. Do ya realize how big a muscle ya glutes are? They need some love, too!
 

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+1 to @LaFemme .

Its frustrating that because of the "happy ending" connotation that some spas instruct their therapists to avoid butts and chests to ensure there is no question of appropriateness. Do ya realize how big a muscle ya glutes are? They need some love, too!
I know!

I get so freaked out, though, I only see a female therapist. All the creepy stories here made me worried about cross-sex massages.
 
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I know!

I get so freaked out, though, I only see a female therapist. All the creepy stories here made me worried about cross-sex massages.
I don't care who rubs on me. Im such a trollop for massages.

I typically prefer Male therapists because I like DEEP tissue. I mean DEEP DEEP. A guy can use his body weight and beat the crap out of my knots with less effort.
 
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I don't care who rubs on me. Im such a trollop for massages.

I typically prefer Male therapists because I like DEEP tissue. I mean DEEP DEEP. A guy can use his body weight and beat the crap out of my knots with less effort.
I’ve had some tough women. They can can really put their whole body into it. I love a good massage.
 
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I’ve had some tough women. They can can really put their whole body into it. I love a good massage.
Me too. My last one was from a woman and it was the best buttrub evah. I've also had petite women who suggest their peers the next time I schedule. Conversely, I've had men who prefer swedish who will refer to other therapists. I've had more luck with men, though.

Side note, I tried a massage chair at Costco the other day and am saving my pennies. Concurrent foot, calf, butt and back rubs FTW!
 
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If I were to ever give patronage to a sex worker in person, it would not in any way be done under the pretense of getting a massage. The whole "massage" scenario screams ick/nasty to me, besides the whole heap of other issues like casting shade on people who are actually licensed professionals (I'm not current on my vocabulary so I'm not sure what to call them) who give massages.
 

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+1 to @LaFemme .

Its frustrating that because of the "happy ending" connotation that some spas instruct their therapists to avoid butts and chests to ensure there is no question of appropriateness. Do ya realize how big a muscle ya glutes are? They need some love, too!
I run and I garden. I had a therapist with whom I had gotten comfortable, and who was comfortable with me. I apologetically asked her to work on my glutes, help me stretch my quads and lower back, and to give a little more time to my hands. I could tell from her answer that first time that she had known for months I needed that kind of help, but had been afraid of the appearance od impropriety. She asked permission to kneel on my hamstrings. She was heavy. It was exactly what I needed. Once or twice a month for a long time after that I went to her for 60 or 90 minutes, and she managed that time beautifully. She always made enough time to fully work out all the places I carry stress, or routinely injure through activity. If not for people who do fake massage therapy as a front for prostitution, I could have gotten the help I needed sooner. Much sooner.
 

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well I normally get massages from guys so i don't really support that...

In a 2017 Oakland sweep of seven houses of prostitution masquerading as massage, 1/3 of the employees who had their papers held by the owner were male or identifying as male. Some performed sex acts for money, some were cleaning and other support. All were basically held in slavery, forced to work to pay debts that inflated weekly.

One third of the legitimate profession is male, too.

“Happy endings” are enslavement. No debate.

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I kneel on big muscle groups, too! It is how I leverage my weight to benefit a client in pain.
 

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If I were to ever give patronage to a sex worker in person, it would not in any way be done under the pretense of getting a massage. The whole "massage" scenario screams ick/nasty to me, besides the whole heap of other issues like casting shade on people who are actually licensed professionals (I'm not current on my vocabulary so I'm not sure what to call them) who give massages.

Licensed Massage Therapist (Colorado and many other states)
Registered Massage Therapist (Canada)
Certified Massage Therapist (California)

Currently, I hold a CAMTC certification out of California, and an LMT from Colorado.
My certification is due to expire in August. I’m not working in California, so no reason to give their hot mess of a massage therapy council any money.
 
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In a 2017 Oakland sweep of seven houses of prostitution masquerading as massage, 1/3 of the employees who had their papers held by the owner were male or identifying as male. Some performed sex acts for money, some were cleaning and other support. All were basically held in slavery, forced to work to pay debts that inflated weekly.

One third of the legitimate profession is male, too.

“Happy endings” are enslavement. No debate.

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I kneel on big muscle groups, too! It is how I leverage my weight to benefit a client in pain.
That’s my experience, too. I know that there are some who see some avenues of the sex trade as empowering. I have never seen that aspect. The girls, boys, men and women I know who are working the street and in massage parlours are doing it due to sex trafficking, pimping and because of addiction, poor education, survival sex, and desperation.

I’ve seen a couple girls move “up” to escorting, but they only feel that they dress better and set better hours - they might have a better pimp, but the risks are the same. The clients are still pigs to them. They still get beaten and raped. The good “johns” are the ones who just want to pay them to put on lipstick, or walk on them with high heels, or spank them. Please not another panting, huffing, sweating pig that you have to lie to. At worst, someone choking you, slapping you, spitting on you, humiliating you.

I’ve listened to hundreds of stories from dead-eyed people trying to get right with the world again. Or not. Just telling their story. I want to round up these johns and tell them about happy endings.
 

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I worked as a lifeguard/fitness center attendant in the Millenium Hilton, across the street from what was the World Trade Center. It catered to business travelers. I wasn't union, so I was not supposed to accept tips, but try to tell me not to take extra money for pampering spoiled rich assholes. I got lots of tips because I was kind, and I remembered people and their routines, and anticipated their needs in advance by the third time I saw them. Like the skinny blonde lady with the pretty nose was going to run on a treadmill for several hours, every day of her stay, and then she was going to sit in the sauna drinking ice cold water for an hour. I always changed her towel halfway through her run, left fresh towels and a robe waiting for her next to the sauna, and would miraculously appear with more cold water every time she opened the sauna door. She would have a massage in her room, with a female therapist if possible, please, 90 minutes most days. The second I saw her I'd get someone on standby. On the last day of her stay she always thanked me for her kindness, and gave me an envelope with two or three crisp twenties.

The massage therapists tipped too. They wanted to be the first person I called. Their rates were very good, and I can't imagine they were not tipped well. People in NYC tip. Everybody knows that. Right? So, every time I booked a massage, I'd get $20-50. It just depended how much work I got them, and who it was. I rarely called the people who gave me $10. That's life.

Whenever I ran out of therapists, it was a problem. Usually, the guest would just ask me to keep trying, maybe book them for tomorrow. That kind of thing. Every once in a while, some slime ball would ask me to do the massage. Some fat, half bald pig old enough to be my father or grandfather would try to get my unlicensed, barely legal self upstairs.

Nope. I'd tell them I didn't have a license, and I didn't know how to do a good massage. They never cared. "We'll work something out, Sweetheart." Ick! I'd tell them I wasn't allowed on guest floors under any circumstances. I once worked from open to close, a double shift (18 hours), on the 4th of July, unable to even leave for lunch. The trains were experiencing delays, there were reports of gunshots in my neighborhood mere blocks from my house, AND I was scheduled to open the next day, and might have ended up with another double. My boss BEGGED Hilton corporate and the general manager of that hotel to give me a room for the night so I could go straight to bed, having worked well past my bedtime. I closed at 11. I was due to open at 5 AM. Hilton responded that I was not permitted on guest floors. End of. So no, not even as his guest, as if anyone would believe an 18 year-old lifeguard was some old guy's proper guest.

Then the offers of money would start. Never precise amounts, just assurances that I would be well compensated for my time and attention. For real? "Sir, I'll have the concierge send you up a copy of the Voice. You may find a suitable solution to this predicament on the last page."

Of course, there were always the ones who when I asked if they preferred a male or female therapist would reply, "Are any of them soft and chocolaty like you?" I'd send them this big, serious white guy after pretending I couldn't reach any of the female therapists. "Michael is very, very good. Everyone just loves him here." I didn't know how good or bad any of them were. Mike just looked like he could handle himself if it got stupid. If Mike handed me a $20, I'd have a tenner waiting for him. "Keep half. This might be unpleasant. I'm sorry."

Now you know why I try not to give Hilton any of my money. It's not easy. They own everything. They weren't good to me, and there were cockroaches in the basement. Big, flying ones. And rats. I hated going down there to fix pump room problems, but that's what a head lifeguard does.

These people who just think they can buy whatever and whomever they want are not good people. Sometimes I'm attracted to my massage therapist too. Do I let on? No! Money has changed hands and they have to be nice to me. I treat them with the same respect I want from strangers at work. I don't want it to get awkward when I ask for help with my glutes, aductors, and abductors. I want them to be comfortable with my very personal, intimate request. I tip 25% instead of 20% if I make awkward requests and they honor them professionally and don't let me feel uncomfortable or embarrassed. Also, im very ticklish all those places. I assume I'm a giant pain in the ass.
 

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The average rate for an independent contractor, and we are miscatogorized 80 percent of the time, meaning the contracted is really functioning as an employer and should be paying the FICA, etc, in Denver is $17-30. I’m approaching the middle of that span.
Tips run $5-20. Per service, not hour.


I mentioned this elsewhere....
In a Canadian province, I don’t recall which one, a registered massage therapist may not give their intimate partner a massage, paid or not, office or home.
Partners have used it in divorce proceedings to cause the ex to lose their license and livelihood.

More devaluing of women and our work.
 

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I get my massage at the same spa I've been going to for years. I have tried to get my husband to go, but he says he's afraid they might offer a happy ending. It makes me angry when he says that because there's nothing erotic about a massage. I know I'm addicted to them, but I can separate the erotic from the sheer pleasure of a professional massage.

But I think some men have a hair trigger at certain pressure points. Maybe that's why they always equate massage with erotica. Who knows?

If a masseur or masseuse ever ventured into such territory I would report them to the management and hope they would take care of the situation. Failing that I'd call in the authorities. I don't like my trust betrayed.