Why bother asking a question if you're going to argue and tell anyone who disagrees with you that they're wrong?
For the sake of conversation. Remember what that was?
Why bother asking a question if you're going to argue and tell anyone who disagrees with you that they're wrong?
By sexual I assume you're just meaning touching the genitals, but all massage is touch and it intrinsically is sensual to one degree to another not necessarily sexual but indeed sensual. Why would you pay to go to a massage therapist if you didn't find the touch pleasurable? You certainly wouldn't go if it was painful or unpleasant.
Massage therapists communicate with their touch. Good therapists can convey trust, caring, concern and love with their touch. It can be theraputic and healing or perfunctory and unpleasant. Most medical massages are unpleasant and perfunctory in my experience and done by people trained to treat just one area of the body or to alleviate pain. Many have no intuitive skills or touch. It is all academic and cold. It is rarely holistic or pleasurable. Massage should be much more than treating symptoms I think.
Touch is a very powerful sense which registers beyond rational thought deep within our limbic brain and by its very nature is sensual and pleasurable. During and after a great massage the dicotomy of mind and body disappear and the health benefits are felt holistically not just in one segregated section of the body that is treated.
Now I'm not saying that a massage therapist needs to have sex with his clients but he certainly shouldn't have any hang ups regarding sex, genitals, anus or other forbidden parts of a person's body which can be touched during a massage to great pleasure and health of the whole person. It is common to feel elated and effervescent after a great massage and sometimes that requires the masseur to touch these places on our bodies that have been labeled "verboten' and we are told slutty, dirty, nasty and evil, all of which couldn't be further from the truth.
It has taken me years of repression to overcome body guilt and to regain my body and to feel free expressing my sexuality and enjoying all the pleasures my body lends to me and a lot of it has to do with enlightened, skilled, sensual, caring masseurs, one in particular, who taught me that my body is a vehicle for happiness in life.
For the sake of conversation. Remember what that was?
For the sake of trolling? kthxbye, I know not to bother reading your topics now.
Sorry that not everyone can be as comfortable having a beautiful body like me.
I get what you're saying. And for you, that type of massage was therapeutic for you; for me, it would be the opposite. My life experience might have been similar to yours (I'm just guessing), but I learned that it was okay for everyone to touch me. I've mentioned on the boards before that I was even sexually touched by a doctor. It took years for me to trust men (or anyone for that matter) who had any position of authority over me to touch me without demonstrating/expressing any sexual intent or interest.
I am comforted by the fact that a massage therapist would lose their license by sexually touching their clients; however, if you found a type of therapist who was able to help you to open up and teach you to enjoy your own body? Then, truly Earl, I am happy for you. And you know that comes from the bottom of my heart.
By sexual I assume you're just meaning touching the genitals, but all massage is touch and it intrinsically is sensual to one degree to another not necessarily sexual but indeed sensual. Why would you pay to go to a massage therapist if you didn't find the touch pleasurable? You certainly wouldn't go if it was painful or unpleasant.
Massage therapists communicate with their touch. Good therapists can convey trust, caring, concern and love with their touch. It can be theraputic and healing or perfunctory and unpleasant. Most medical massages are unpleasant and perfunctory in my experience and done by people trained to treat just one area of the body or to alleviate pain. Many have no intuitive skills or touch. It is all academic and cold. It is rarely holistic or pleasurable. Massage should be much more than treating symptoms I think.
Touch is a very powerful sense which registers beyond rational thought deep within our limbic brain and by its very nature is sensual and pleasurable. During and after a great massage the dicotomy of mind and body disappear and the health benefits are felt holistically not just in one segregated section of the body that is treated.
Now I'm not saying that a massage therapist needs to have sex with his clients but he certainly shouldn't have any hang ups regarding sex, genitals, anus or other forbidden parts of a person's body which can be touched during a massage to great pleasure and health of the whole person. It is common to feel elated and effervescent after a great massage and sometimes that requires the masseur to touch these places on our bodies that have been labeled "verboten' and we are told slutty, dirty, nasty and evil, all of which couldn't be further from the truth.
It has taken me years of repression to overcome body guilt and to regain my body and to feel free expressing my sexuality and enjoying all the pleasures my body lends to me and a lot of it has to do with enlightened, skilled, sensual, caring masseurs, one in particular, who taught me that my body is a vehicle for happiness in life.
You are saying a massage therapist should have sex with their clients. It's exactly what you want everyone else to agree to. I said I would not and explained why in an honest and nice way and you called me a slut and a whore and some other insulting things. You further said I should "rethink" my license just because I won't get my future clients off? Nasty little man.
Who said anything about a massage therapist having sexual hang-ups? You did and elaborated on your own. We don't. And we do not want sick and twisted men like you for clients who feel it is our duty to touch your cock! IT'S NOT!
After reading this thread to the end, you are the one who has some serious sexual issues. Obviously, you get off on taking them out on people who do not agree with you. You are a nasty person who loves to bully people. It looks you got what you deserved in your life and I have no sympathy for your sob story. I can only hope karma keeps up with you.
I know this post is ancient of days, but I have answers for others asking.Do you think even the most legit massage therapists have crossed that line with a client during a "work" session?
I had a massage the other day at a day spa, a legit place, nice, and very above board and the massage studio spaces are separated by thin walls and curtains from one another but you still can hear faint sounds from the other tables.
And I definitely heard sex going on in the studio next to me. It was a bit annoying but I was wondering if that line between professionalism and sex is crossed even in the most legit professional massage places. I imagine if it's not consensual the therapist probably would be fired but if the client is open to sex and the therapist is very sexually attracted to him/her does it happen? Do sexual urges take over?
I was thinking about this during my massage even though it was explicitly indicated that this was NOT a place for licentious behavior whatsoever.
Because we work diligently in the industry to NOT be treated as sex workers.*ponders* seems kinda silly that massage therapist can't offer sexual release at their own discretion, depending on client need/therapeutic value.
i mean, i am cool with sexual surrogates and sexual therapists... maybe an extra license/training to add a bit of legitimacy? a way to distance physical therapy from tug-shops?
*is uber opposed to tug-shops, is usually a front for human trafficking/sexual slavery :frown:*
I absolutely understand the necessity of strict protocols, Ms SB. And 10 years down the line my tired ass has accepted that we can't have nice things as the prevailing theme of all things.Because we work diligently in the industry to NOT be treated as sex workers.
coming on to an MT, who has to be polite to a point, is just as shitty as hitting on retail and restaurant workers.
#respectmassage