Masturbation

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  1. Wonderboy

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    What are your views on it. Do you think its justified for people to react as cited in my signature?

    Notice how its mostly (probably all) religious people that get VERY angry over masturbation. There are worse rants than the one in my signature, some even contain death threats!

    Also - how do these Christians etc find a masturbation site on the internet, if they are so against it...
     
  2. Pecker

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    I'm religious and I don't get angry about masturbation. But then I'll probably get rewarded in hell with porno magazines and no weenie.
     
  3. Wonderboy

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    I mean the religiously insane then... :)

    Also this comment:

    And by the way, the Bible doesn't say jack s**t about profanity being a sin. So f**k you, a**holes!

    Is just scary, and stupid at the same time...I don't believe thats the correct use of the bible. Its just not nice.
     
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    I don't think you can make an assumption about this person's religion based on that response. A better assumption would be that he/she has mental issues.
     
  5. dags

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    Wonderboy, I would'nt worry about it. A good book to read: "The Good Book" by Peter J Gomes. "Reading the Bible with Mind and Heart" Author also has some other very good books.
     
  6. davidjh7

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    It's a pretty simple answer, basically. The people don't know their bible, only what they are told it says. First of all, the "sin" of masturbation is derived from the story of Onan, Genesis 38: 7-9. For those few not familiar with the basic story, Onan's brother died, so God commanded Onan to marry his brother's wife, and have children. When Onan had sexual intercourse with her, he couldn't bring himself to impregnante her, so withdrew and "spilled his seed upon the ground". God then killed Onan, for disobeying him. No mention in any other place in the bible says ANYTHING about sexual self pleasuring. RELIGIONS< starting with the Jewish religion began to INTERPRET this story to mean that any "spilling of seed" not used for reproduction was condemned by God. Now, as far as his statement about profanity, he is totally wrong, begining with the interpretation of the seventh commandment: "Thou shalty not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain...", which strictly interpreted means you can't use the name of God except in worship. There are several verses that can be used against his argument, but a pretty clear one is Ephesians 4:29 "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen." Please note that I am neither a Bible scholor, nor am I very religious. I believe in God, but that is my personal belief system, for my personal reasons. I do NOT believe in religion, which was designed by and for man, as a "club" to get together and think you are better than everybody else. However, when "christians" (note lower case) start spouting off, I find it useful to be able to use the very text they are using to condem others. I think you will find a large majority of said "christians" have never read more than a few select passages in their lives, except when told to read ONLY certain passages by their religions leaders, and they are not encouraged to read further, before or after the cited verse. Two can play the "Bible game".
    They usually are flabbergasted, then pissed off, because they usually can;t cite anything to come back at you with. They don't know their own bible well enough. They only know what has been spoon fed to them. Note, this is not ALL Christians---there are those who truly honor the name they have taken, and do their best to emulate him in their lives. Most of the people do so quietly and with grace and peace. The hotheads are just trying to justify their own positon, and most of the time, they are complete hypocrits about it as well. Given the only time Christ got mad was at hypocrits, and those trying to make a buck off of God, I personally feel there is a special place in hell reserved for those type of people. It comforts me.:biggrin1:
     
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    I am a Christian. I teach Christina sexuality to my young people in church.

    Masturbation is not a sin. The only mention of it was that soldiers in battle were not to do it. They weren't to have sex with women either while encamped in army fort.

    Research has shown that men when young need to get rid of the semen regularly. It helps prostate health. Men who were very active in their twenties through sex or masturbation have much fewer problems with prostate later in life.

    If a guy doesn't masturbate or have sex the body wil remove the semen through a wet dream.

    The only procedures that I suggest in church are:

    1, Masturbation should be private, in the bathroom or in the bedrrom.. Of course therie are circle jerks and I know it. But I'm not going to list that as an activity. If it comes up..... Not going to shoot it down just laught it off.

    2. In our culture puberty happens at least 10 years before the average man gets married or has a regular significant other. Masturbation takes care of some of the urge without involving another person with whom you have absolutely no romantic ties. In other words don't invovle another person in it if you are only doing it for yourself and not for the other person as well.

    3.Be careful that you don't let masturbation become obsessive enough that you substitute it for trying to have a true relationship with someone at the appropriate time.

    4. There are some people that romantic relationships just don't happen for some reason. They may masturbate their entire life and not ever have a romantic fling. There is nothing wrong with that either.

    And I tell them this joke. The penis has no brain. It doesn't know if it is a shower curtain, a hand, a mouth, a vagina or a ass hole. The main sex organ is still the brain.

    The second thing that I tell them is the 99 percent of all men admit they masturbate. The other one percent are lying.

    As a Christian I am getting tired of other groups claiming to be Christians try to speak for me. Especially this is true when they start using the BIBLE. I know the book well. They can practice whatever they wish about masturbation. But they can't use the Bible to teach that masturbation is a sin.

    That idea entered into Christianity about the fourth century. It was at that time that some in the church decided on their own that ALL sex except sex specifically for reproduction is a sin. This is not substantiated anywhere in the Bible.

    So it is the fundie Christians and some Cathlics who have problems with masturbation.
     
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    Freddie, maybe if I had been taught ast YOUR church, I would still believe that religion had value.:smile: Thank you for providing a supportive, rather than a condeming enviroment for those you teach!
     
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    um, who cares what the bible says about masturbation, i mean who really cares what anybody says about masturbation? nothing will make a dent in that activity regardless of what is said by god and man. it's kind of a non subject (unless you are trying not to do it, but then i would ask "why?"). people are too busy masturbating to do anything about it.
     
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    david...i wholeheartedly agree with every single word u said. i am also a child of God-can't even associate by name 2 religion! it is so corrupt full of pride & greed. i was even once physically removed from church 4 asking for food & shelter when i was homeless! anyway, i understand the sin to be idolatry in the fantasy life-idols being what u go 2 other than God 2 satisfy ur needs. Rock on dude!
     
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    what ever! I can't see it being good to not use it. I think not releasing sexual tensions can be worse then any thing. Could possibly lead to psyc. problems. Think about it. most of your sicko's are the ones that are totally wrapped up in there beliefs. The open minded people are the ones that are most healty and happy. Like that freak in Kansas that pickets the dead soldiers funerals. Now those people are sick. I bet they never masterbated in there lives. But the Dad prolly has sex with his daughter and several wives. And how did religion get blamed for anti wanking, I think most moms think its wrong for there kids to do it and use religion as an excuse instead of talking seriously about the issue and facing there parental duties. (breaks into a rendition of michael jacksons Beat It).

    Most simple answers don't require apx 500 words.
     
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    There are more than some tollerant Roman Catholics, and I am one of them. I attend Mass every Sunday, look forward to marry my girlfriend according to our rite, read the Gospel....

    I am tollerant regarding sexual matters: I masturbate and I do not practice chastity, even though i am unmarried. I talked to a priest about these things and he told me not to worry about my sexual impulses. As a Catholic i should refrain from satisfying them, at least until marriage. It is human to cede to your impulses, he said, and it is useless to feel guilty, since God is ready to forgive you . The most important thing is to realize that sex cannot be the centre of your life, and that it cannot make you lose your road besides GodÂ’s taughts (most of them much more important than the non masturbation policy, maybe derived for human interpretation of them).

    Finally i think that people with other beliefs should be free to masturbate as much as they want, until tey do not interfere with
     
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    Exactly my point, Proudly Italian, agree with you!
     
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    True, I agree, there is no place in the Bible where masturbation is prohibited or considered to be a sin. The only sin that may be tied to masturbation would be that of lusting for another person, as Jesus said that if you lust against another person, you have committed mental adultery. The act itself is NOT sinful. It's like what I've read elsewhere that if God didn't want us to masturbate, He would have created us so that it would have been similiar to tickling, and it takes a second person to do that. At least I've never met anyone who could tickle themselves.
     
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    I hope I don't make anyone mad but my cock is a big part of my life. More specifically, masturbation is ....wait, see there's a problem right there...."masturbation" is an icky word. *ation words are like that; they have connotations that make them icky...or at least NOT the positive experience that it really is. Like Sensation, Fascination or Devastation.

    Forget that, I'm "jerkin off"! I like it, I can do it frequently every day, it feels good, when my whole world turns to crap my cock comes to the rescue, even if just for a few minutes and I feel good.

    What's to feel guilty or bad about there? What kind of screwed up religion, society or parents tell you that's not a good thing?
     
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    This thread is much more fun now that you've changed your sig. :rolleyes:
     
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    Just out of interest, where is this mentioned?
     
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    I think Freddie was very eqoluent in his rhetoric about the issue. Masturbation is a natural part of life and is a common act practiced by men since creation.

    People are always going to find ways to downplay or cast stones. Personally, I think we all have our own conscious that reflects what and how we perceive things - as to be wrong or right. You have to work out your own issues - be it religiously or spiritually and with whomever. Allow your own conscious to dictate your motivates and your actions and then your responses will be generated on your personal values and morals.

    And BTW, I, too, am religious and Christian, but religion is doctrine based - philosophical teachings. Spirituality is something we all have instinctly and innately bred within us. There is a difference and that difference, my friend defines how we calibrate our value systems and where we generate those questions about these 'taboo' topics, if you will.... If you enjoy jacking, and have not ill-fate or guilty feelings about it, then by all means, DO IT! If your conscious tells you differently, however, then you might want to think a little and ask your self those personal questions.

    Just my thoughts.
     
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    Gosh I'm not sure. I remember reading it one time. The scene was this: On the battlefield if men were caught masturbating, they were to have their bedding area removed to a more remote area of the campground.* Nothing was mentioned about it being wrong. But men also weren't suppose to fuck their wives on leave during war either.

    This is in the historical narrative. Never once in that passage was God mentioned. This was just a Hebrew custom.

    I don't have time right now. But I will try to find that passage later.

    *And the remote areas grew more populated as the days went by.*
     
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    I agree that it is the moms who usually have the problem, not the dads. Womens needs are different than men. Moms quite often don't understand how semen is produced and that it HAS to be released from the body.

    I think that was less than 500 words:biggrin1:
     
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