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i just dont get why this conversation is even relevant to the creamy bros or Matt in particular. None of them have even had actual gay sex yet afaik. lol. All the acts they've done on camera are the bare minimum so far and he is never hard. This topic is tired and played out

I agree. Though to put my two cents. If any guy entertains the idea or attempt to partake in homo-erotic sexual activities than they are not straight at least in the definition sense. I know we'll have many people giving a dissertation hymning and hawing over fluidity and that they can claim straight however they want (like my thoughtful "woke" post). But they are throwing themselves in a realm of bisexuality IMO.

But I like to end it there because these conversations aren't very productive and just all end the same way and constantly brought up.
 
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I agree. Though to put my two cents. If any guy entertains the idea or attempt to partake in homo-erotic sexual activities than they are not straight at least in the definition sense. I know we'll have many people giving a dissertation hymning and hawing over fluidity and that they can claim straight however they want (like my thoughtful "woke" post). But they are throwing themselves in a realm of bisexuality IMO.

But I like to end it there because these conversations aren't very productive and just all end the same way and constantly brought up.
I always thought of bisexuality as a process of transition to homosexuality. I mean those men who say they are bisexual but prefer men you only watch them with a few girls but they are fucking with a lot of men all time and enjoy it more that you can see it on their faces and there are proofs on onlyfans videos or webcam shows. And finally those men announced publicly that they are gay then and separated from their girlfriends or wives to take a journey of new self discovery. And in the end they got a boyfriend and get married. Bisexuality is not stable; you choose one road or the other.
 

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I always thought of bisexuality as a process of transition to homosexuality. I mean those men who say they are bisexual but prefer men you only watch them with a few girls but they are fucking with a lot of men all time and enjoy it more that you can see it on their faces and there are proofs on onlyfans videos or webcam shows. And finally those men announced publicly that they are gay then and separated from their girlfriends or wives to take a journey of new self discovery. And in the end they got a boyfriend and get married. Bisexuality is not stable; you choose one road or the other.
UH...speaking as an actual and lifelong bisexual I can say that it is very “stable”. The only thing that’s fluctuated is what type of girl or guy I’m into at any given point. “Choosing” one way or the other has everything to do with lifestyle and nothing to do with the stability of your bisexuality. Gay men don’t stop being attracted to men who aren’t their partner just because they choose to be monogamous and straight men are certainly attracted to women who aren’t their wives and girlfriends, so why would a bisexual man’s sexuality cease to exist under the same circumstances?
 

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UH...speaking as an actual and lifelong bisexual I can say that it is very “stable”. The only thing that’s fluctuated is what type of girl or guy I’m into at any given point. “Choosing” one way or the other has everything to do with lifestyle and nothing to do with the stability of your bisexuality. Gay men don’t stop being attracted to men who aren’t their partner just because they choose to be monogamous and straight men are certainly attracted to women who aren’t their wives and girlfriends, so why would a bisexual man’s sexuality cease to exist under the same circumstances?
Ok. First of all I respect your statement and your lifestyle and secondly I hope you are not going to feel offended with this comment, but I wil just say that some straight men use the "I am bisexual now" card so that they have permission from their girlfriends or even wives to experiment with other men and suddenly in the end they realize they are gay and prefer men only and get divorced and start to go to pride parades and drag queen constests and all that stuff. It has even happened among actors, male models and athletes.
 

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I always thought of bisexuality as a process of transition to homosexuality. I mean those men who say they are bisexual but prefer men you only watch them with a few girls but they are fucking with a lot of men all time and enjoy it more that you can see it on their faces and there are proofs on onlyfans videos or webcam shows. And finally those men announced publicly that they are gay then and separated from their girlfriends or wives to take a journey of new self discovery. And in the end they got a boyfriend and get married. Bisexuality is not stable; you choose one road or the other.
This is erroneous. I can’t believe people say this type of old mythologies in 2021 despite all the education and expertise available on the topic.
 

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Ok. First of all I respect your statement and your lifestyle and secondly I hope you are not going to feel offended with this comment, but I wil just say that some straight men use the "I am bisexual now" card so that they have permission from their girlfriends or even wives to experiment with other men and suddenly in the end they realize they are gay and prefer men only and get divorced and start to go to pride parades and drag queen constests and all that stuff. It has even happened among actors, male models and athletes.
I think you are talking about closeted gay men, which is very different to bisexual men.

I wil just say that some straight men use the "I am bisexual now" card so that they have permission from their girlfriends or even wives to experiment with other men and suddenly in the end they realize they are gay
Out of interest, is this based on lived experience or is it an assumption that this happens?
 

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I think you are talking about closeted gay men, which is very different to bisexual men.
Out of interest, is this based on lived experience or is it an assumption that this happens?

I know your comments didn't come from a bad place, but there is a history of gay men not believing bisexuality exists, which is crazy considering homosexuality was suppressed, repressed and swept under the rug for so long... and we've all heard it referred to as "just a phase". So it's a bit of a sore spot when people say that bisexuality is a "process". I feel like saying, don't you know your own history? Are you going to switch from victim to perpetrator, so fast?

You're right, some gay men might appropriate bisexuality while they're coming out. I'm not offended by that. Coming out can be difficult and very dangerous for gay men. But bisexuality is real, we're out there walking around, and it is difficult as well, but the difficulties come from how other people perceive it, interpret it, refer to it and can be threatened by it.

You might know a hundred men who could be bisexual. The ones with a bigger attraction to women, and less of an attraction to men probably identify as straight, and so that is what they are. The drama of coming out, being relabelled, and having a "lifestyle change" is not worth it.

And some might have a bigger attraction to men, and less of an attraction to women, so they might identify as gay, and so that is what they are.

But it's not a process, it's not a myth, and it's not a game with "bisexual cards" to play.
 

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i just dont get why this conversation is even relevant to the creamy bros or Matt in particular. None of them have even had actual gay sex yet afaik. lol. All the acts they've done on camera are the bare minimum so far and he is never hard. This topic is tired and played out
Ohhhhh my goodness you’re so right lmao. Everyone is out here calling them gay and they haven’t actually had sex with a guy. And yeah I agree with you this topic of their sexuality is very boring and it’s been boring
 

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I know your comments didn't come from a bad place, but there is a history of gay men not believing bisexuality exists, which is crazy considering homosexuality was suppressed, repressed and swept under the rug for so long... and we've all heard it referred to as "just a phase". So it's a bit of a sore spot when people say that bisexuality is a "process". I feel like saying, don't you know your own history? Are you going to switch from victim to perpetrator, so fast?

You're right, some gay men might appropriate bisexuality while they're coming out. I'm not offended by that. Coming out can be difficult and very dangerous for gay men. But bisexuality is real, we're out there walking around, and it is difficult as well, but the difficulties come from how other people perceive it, interpret it, refer to it and can be threatened by it.

You might know a hundred men who could be bisexual. The ones with a bigger attraction to women, and less of an attraction to men probably identify as straight, and so that is what they are. The drama of coming out, being relabelled, and having a "lifestyle change" is not worth it.

And some might have a bigger attraction to men, and less of an attraction to women, so they might identify as gay, and so that is what they are.

But it's not a process, it's not a myth, and it's not a game with "bisexual cards" to play.
This was perfect, there’s nothing to not understand here. How people don’t understand this to begin with I don’t know but if guys in the thread still don’t understand after reading this you’re choosing to be ignorant it’s just that simple
 

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OK. I think we are taking too personal all these comments. I do believe in bisexuality, I never said it wasn't real, but what I don't approve is men using it to escape from their real sexual orientation and making harm in the process to their wives or girlfriends that didn't know about it as well as men using it to take advantage of something or scam. If these guys say they are straight and do those things, why I wouldn't believe them; sexual pleasure has nothing to do with genders and less when money is involved. No one reply to this comment, please. Let's finish this overdramatic topic here and let's enjoy of Matt and Ro's adventures to see how long they will push their sexual limits. No hard feelings. Sorry if I offended you. Peace and respect.
 

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Also, what’s out of date and needs to stop being brought up,is, people saying that a man not having gay sex at a certain point is not really gay. The act itself doesn’t make someone gay, it’s because someone is gay they seek to have sexual encounters with the same sex. I have met many men in my life for one reason or another have never had gay sex and yet they know they are gay.
 
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I love how some people start a ridiculous off topic convo and then continue to say ignorant BS and then demand no one correct them. Give me a fucking break. Anyway it was not relevant to Matt so I'm leaving it alone.