Hmm. And such a free democratic process than an inexperienced community organizer can wind up on the top line of the democratic ticket.
I guess I missed the speech where Palin indicated she doesn't 'believe' in a balanced budget or evolution.
Someone gave you the citation...shockingly, the entirety of her beliefs weren't in a short speech that was written for her. You never touched this one again.
If she is as miserable and ineffective as everyone in this thread lets on, why does she have an 80% approval rating in Alaska? That's the best of any governor in the U.S.
Can't wait to hear...
Congress has a sub-10% approval rating, hasn't been over 50% in years, and has a 95% re-election rate. Also, that sound you here is you a) attacking a strawman argument and b) trying to change the subject
I think its highly unlikely that anyone that McCain put on the ticket would be met with anything less than hostile attacks and negative remarks on this forum.
As Governor of Alaska, she controls a considerably larger dept than Obama and Biden combined.
C'mon, Jex. You completely dismiss approval ratings? Its not much of a stretch to say that if 4 out 5 people that you represent are pleased, you may be doing something right?
You need the jaws of life to extract a single compliment or positive remark out of the left over any Republican candidate in U.S. history. It seems every republican past and present is a buffoon.
Strawman. You're fighting your own little fight against arguments nobody is making. You're trying to white-knight the Republican Party but doing it without sources.
well, she took on the good ole boy network and eliminated and cleaned up a very corrupt government in Alaska. I don't want to get into a pissing match, but what has Obama accomplished? Not a helluva lot during his stint in Illinois.
Citations for this? Either one point you tried to make. Also you avoided and redirected. Again.
Its not difficult to attack any of the candidates from our living rooms. I think you may be surprised by Palin going forward. Let's see how the debates work out.
I like listening to Obama, and I think he makes sense on a lot of issues. I don't like his tax plan nor his healthcare proposals.
Sympathizing, still not answering questions.
well, how's it going in UK?
With healthcare? Pretty good, in general better than the US. See my exhaustive reply in my post history, in another thread. A few days ago. Again, this isn't a substantive post, you haven't offered anything.
Sargon,
I agree with you on that regard. But, what about the God that Obama worshipped for over 20 years at Pastor Jeremiah Wright's side?
Are those the values that are more presidential? Commending and applauding the works of Farrakan and spewing hatred to whites and Jews?
Yuck. I think we should stay away from religion in this election on both sides.
Avoid and redirect again.
its okay that his family worshipped with racists for 2 decades because he 'kept it to himself?'
This thread wreaks of double standards.
Ad hominem and un-supported.
Well if you believe that Reverend Wright only made 20 seconds of offensive and outlanding statements and they were all captured in a couple sound bites, that is your prerogative.
Again, it would be refreshing for one left-leaning person to just say, "Yep. Wright is a little out there. Dunno why Obama was there for 20 years."
I don't think religion should be in politics or law. I agree. Not impossible for me to acknowledge. Why is it so difficult from your side of the aisle to concede even the most obvious facts about your candidates?
People have said that. But that's not what you're saying. Your words are "racist". That's what they're arguing. Stop using incendiary talking points, then saying "hey it's not so bad, why can't you admit that it's not a big deal".
Vinyl, where are you going with this? If you aren't offended by things people say, why would you be offended that Palin and Bush believe in God?
If the republican party is the party of hypocrites, maybe John Edwards should jump over to our side. Preaching about his ideals to us; all the while fucking some whore while his wife is undergoing cancer treatments. Nice. I'm sure you have another word for it tho because there aren't any hypocrites in the Dem Party.
Deliberate misinterpretation and redirect.
Also, it's pretty clear that the poster's in this thread have is that Bush/Palin try to legislate based on religious guidelines. They're on record saying they would. Obama has done nothing of the sort. Is that really hard to see?
and another icon of moral and ethical behavior -- Eliot Spitzer. Greatest hypocrite of the last 30 years.
I'm with you on this one.
Okay. I don't like the pushing of religion - i don't think it has any place in politics. Further, I don't think we should be telling a woman what to do with her body. I completely agree.
Why do you keep bringing up Wright then? Also, why do you support a party that disagrees with your abortion stance? And a candidate.
I think Edwards' wife would catagorize his activity a little differently than 'sexual activity'. I think there may have been a vow taken between the two sometime on their wedding day.
I agree that what Edwards did was reprehensible. Do you condemn McCain for doing the same? (btw this is how you do a redirect)
Does Eliot Spitzer qualify tho? He built his entire career (the one that his dad bought for him) by taking down prostitution rings and making public personal attacks on NYC executives. The whole while he is wiring tens of thousands of dollars all across the eastern seaboard nailing teenage prostitutes, then zipping his dick back in and heading to court to take down another prostitution ring and attack the personal lives of high profile business leaders. In fact, if he hadn't been caught, he'd probably be on the democratic ticket right now.
Still on Spitzer? And not a chance, he was not well liked in politics.
nope. I was simply pointing out that the democrats shouldn't be launching grenades while perched in a glass house. I continually see references to the Repubs as a group of 'hypocrites', yet never acknowledging any cracks within your own party.
Still fighting a strawman. I don't think that anyone in this thread said anything good about Spitzer.
You can slice that anyway you want but by refusing to listen to anyone but the choir about were the WMD's real he shut out 'the best available information'. Bill Clinton knew and everyone knew the evidence was flimsy.
Really?
The Bush Administration look at the intelligence information and saw it as a threat. Members of Congress looked at the intelligence data and saw it as a threat. The U.N. Security Council examined the intelligence and saw it as a threat. Then, Huessein refused to heed to UN resolutions.
With that being said, guess we should have listened to Sean Penn?
Its likely that the errors with the data came from the CIA and related intelligence sources. Not GWB inventing an elaborate lie.
My error is what - admitting that we shouldn't have gone to war? You may be correct. I don't want us there any more than you do.
Your implications and rants that portray Bush as a bumbling fool with his finger on the button are completely absent of objectivity and remind me of a junkyard dog lunging at a cut of prime rib.
Lighten up a little, huh?
And here you defend the evidence for war in one post, then say we shouldn't have gone in the next.
Starinvestor, if you're going to play White Knight to the Republican Party, and accuse others of not acknowledging the problems in their own party, and living in Glass houses......maybe you shouldn't spend the whole thread doing the same. This is almost every post of yours in the thread. Not one did you admit fault on any Republican's part, you just attacked Democrats.
