McCain booed after trying to calm anti-Obama crowd

[b.c.]

The fact that one candidate has to be brought to the position of actually having to defend another candidate against mob mentality, racists epitaphs, and bigoted characterizations is really a SERIOUS statement on the nature of our society, especially as it relates to bigotry and racism, and SHOULD be an EMBARRASSMENT to us as a nation that presumes to tell OTHER nations about "human rights".

The issue has always been at the core of much in our society, lying just under the surface, in plain view but ignored. And when rising to the top readily and quickly dismissed (more likely by those most guilty of it) as the playing of some fuckin' "card".

Now as this election quickly draws nearer, the masks, as I predicted, are coming off and we're beginning to see ourselves, perhaps, for what we really are about (or at least those willing to look so closely into the mirror - clearly and honesty - without the usual bullshit philosophical rationalizations that are so readily clung to).

But as I stated above, the Republican party play to this sort of emtion. Appealing to the underbelly of Americana is their forte. On one front, in the debates for examply, they argue (as they should) differences in political ideology - differences in how the problems that we face (national and international) should best be addressed. There is nothing wrong with agreement with a political point of view, right or left, and the support of a candidate based upon that. Everyone is entitled to one's opinion, and it is that agreement to disagree, and to be able to then work towards accord which is the basis of our society.

But then on the other front is their other campaign. The dirty one that they're best at. For some time now the RNC and their state affiliates have been (in various media) playing upon these mischaracterizations of Obama - his middle name, allegations of being Muslim, fictitious associations with terrorists... this mob mentality that exists among their followers is THEIR DOING. The result of THEIR propaganda and narrowminded hysteria so willingly and systematically doled out to their constituency.

That they want to feign now, in the light of the media and the resulting public scrutiny, an abhorrence for such a mindset is not so convincing to me.

This mentality is the fruit of their (the Republican party's) efforts.

 

[D_Sir Fitzwilly Wankheimer III]

He should be booed, he's had so many opportunities to stick it to Obama and he's come up lame: acorn, rezco, wright,etc. I'm pretty bummed out. But we'll see wht happens when they tally the votes.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Vinylboy,

I dont want to be a naysayer but we have the precedent of the Tom Bradley effect where Bradley was projected to win and astonishingly when all the votes were counted he found himself shocked and out of a job. It isnt over until it is over .People say many things to keep the rain of retribution from coming down on their heads in public. We shall see what happens after they come out of the voting booth.

That's true. This contest is far from over, and I'm sure we've not seen the end of it from both parties. And even after the election is over, the pains of this campaign will still be felt by many.

That's why I try not to look at any polls because I don't want to get my hopes up prematurely. Half of them put Obama in the lead, and the other half put McCain in the lead. They're just not trustworthy.

 

[b.c.]

He should be booed, he's had so many opportunities to stick it to Obama and he's come up lame: acorn, rezco, wright,etc. I'm pretty bummed out. But we'll see wht happens when they tally the votes.

Are you suggesting that McCain deserved being booed by his constituency because he refused to endorse Obama's being called an Arab, and calls of "off with his head"? Because he had at least enough moral fiber and character to go even there??

 

[naughty]

"I don't trust Obama," a woman said. "I have read about him. He's an Arab."

What is this country/world coming to?
The abundance of ignore floats everywhere and the racism still hovering over all of us. You cant trust him because he's an Arab? What if I told you I couldn't trust you because you're white? I've read about you.
I really wish I could put some sense into that woman.

Unfortunately,

In order to put sense into that deal lady you would have to probably go back over sixty years of her life. People are responding viscerally. All of our props are being taken away from us here in the US and when resources are short, people come out swinging on a very basic level. But if it were a racially and ethnically homogeneous society, people would use something else to differentiate themselves from those to whom they perceive post a threat to them receiving the resources they need and feel they deserve.

 

[B_Hung Jon]

All of this rhetoric about raising taxes & socialism is so much garbage for the disposal - why isn't anyone talking about the trillion dollars that has already been spent on the Iraq war? Off budget, of course. Who do you think is paying for that - the man in the moon? We could have done a lot for ourselves with that money - schools, health insurance, help for the down & out, etc. But no, the bailout will keep the wealthy rich & the poor, poor! AIG got so giddy over their bailout, they spent a half million at a 'get your rocks off' spa! Bunch of brainless poobahs...

I find this interesting also. George Bush and his administration was behind the $750 billion bailout and partial nationalization of our banks. Isn't this socialism? In addition there's the $150 billion in pork projects added to it to bring onboard republicans and democrats who voted against the bailout originally. I guess this makes everyone in Congress a socialist.

 

[b.c.]

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He should be booed, he's had so many opportunities to stick it to Obama and he's come up lame: acorn, rezco, wright,etc. I'm pretty bummed out. But we'll see wht happens when they tally the votes.

Are you suggesting that McCain deserved being booed by his constituency because he refused to endorse Obama's being called an Arab, and calls of "off with his head"?

Deserved to be booed because he had at least enough moral fiber and character than to go even there??

 

[deleted15807]

I find this interesting also. George Bush and his administration was behind the $750 billion bailout and partial nationalization of our banks. Isn't this socialism? In addition there's the $150 billion in pork projects added to it to bring onboard republicans and democrats who voted against the bailout originally. I guess this makes everyone in Congress a socialist.

When The Master of The Universe (Wall Street) fucks up the only game in town is Uncle Sam to save us all from anarchy. But government is bad uhhh no it's good....uhhh no it's bad.

 

[D_Sir Fitzwilly Wankheimer III]

"I don't trust Obama," a woman said. "I have read about him. He's an Arab."

What is this country/world coming to?
The abundance of ignore floats everywhere and the racism still hovering over all of us. You cant trust him because he's an Arab? What if I told you I couldn't trust you because you're white? I've read about you.
I really wish I could put some sense into that woman.

she may not be wrong.

 

[D_Sir Fitzwilly Wankheimer III]

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Are you suggesting that McCain deserved being booed by his constituency because he refused to endorse Obama's being called an Arab, and calls of "off with his head"?

Deserved to be booed because he had at least enough moral fiber and character than to go even there??

I'm suggesting that he should go after him more vigilantly for his connections to acorn, jeramiah wright and tony rezco as i stated in my original post.

The media has had a lpove affair with obama as I stated in my origional post. you should read it berfore you reply. , the mediahave given him a free pass on everything. The shit's going to hit the fan soon.

 

[D_Sir Fitzwilly Wankheimer III]

When The Master of The Universe (Wall Street) fucks up the only game in town is Uncle Sam to save us all from anarchy. But government is bad uhhh no it's good....uhhh no it's bad.

wall street didn't fuck up the average ham and egger fucked up eveyone who has the belief that they are entitled to things that they can't afford has fuucked up. There should havve been no bail out. the market will correct itself. Yes it wil hurt the ones who over leveraged themselves but thats their own fault. it's not the governments role to to bail them out.

 

[tiff86]

I dunno if people out of the USA hear all the stuff about the polls that we do but ever since this economic thing started Obama is way ahead and I ever heard in Vegas its like 4 to 1 that Obama will win. So yay :smile:

 

[mattbuddy]

I dunno if people out of the USA hear all the stuff about the polls that we do but ever since this economic thing started Obama is way ahead and I ever heard in Vegas its like 4 to 1 that Obama will win. So yay :smile:

I'm happy about that! .... A few months ago, I really thought McCain would win even though I didn't want him to, but now I really think Obama will win this election! :biggrin1:

 

[b.c.]

I'm suggesting that he should go after him more vigilantly for his connections to acorn, jeramiah wright and tony rezco as i stated in my original post.

The media has had a lpove affair with obama as I stated in my origional post. you should read it berfore you reply. , the mediahave given him a free pass on everything. The shit's going to hit the fan soon.

If you're referring to some "original post" in some other thread, you'll forgive me if I don't do a complete site search in order to reference everything you've ever posted.

 

[tiff86]

I'm suggesting that he should go after him more vigilantly for his connections to acorn, jeramiah wright and tony rezco as i stated in my original post.

The media has had a lpove affair with obama as I stated in my origional post. you should read it berfore you reply. , the mediahave given him a free pass on everything. The shit's going to hit the fan soon.

I don't think it's the media gives him a free pass or people don't know about that stuff it's just nobody cares about those things cuz other stuff is more important. :smile: So I kinda doubt anything is gonna hit the fan. My Dad told me yesterday you know Obama's gonna win cuz the Republicans going after Obama isn't working so they're going after the people he knows instead. I just don't think anyone is gonna change their mind and vote against Obama cuz of those things, the only people who really care are the people who were not gonna vote for him anyway.
You can tell I'm job hunting I have all this time to watch politics :biggrin1:

 

[SpeedoGuy]

I dunno if people out of the USA hear all the stuff about the polls that we do but ever since this economic thing started Obama is way ahead and I ever heard in Vegas its like 4 to 1 that Obama will win. So yay :smile:

The bad stank from the market meltdown is more likely to linger around Republicans because they've been the ones so vigorously pushing deregulation for decades. So Obama would seem to be the beneficiary.

 

[Blocko]

she may not be wrong.

No, Obama's background is well known and he's not an Arab . So we can say fairly categorically she's wrong about that.

 

[D_Sir Fitzwilly Wankheimer III]

I don't think it's the media gives him a free pass or people don't know about that stuff it's just nobody cares about those things cuz other stuff is more important. :smile: So I kinda doubt anything is gonna hit the fan. My Dad told me yesterday you know Obama's gonna win cuz the Republicans going after Obama isn't working so they're going after the people he knows instead. I just don't think anyone is gonna change their mind and vote against Obama cuz of those things, the only people who really care are the people who were not gonna vote for him anyway.
You can tell I'm job hunting I have all this time to watch politics :biggrin1:

I don't think fraud is un important at all. Where will he draw the line? He's just the puppet. Someone else is pulling his strings.

Tony Rezco is in an interesting situation. He may spill the beans or he could take his chances that Obama will infact win. Then he could be Pardoned.

You're to be watching politics. In fact we ought keeping a close eye othger than just in the election year. Your future is in their hands. I's smart to keep an eye on it.

 

[jon hollins]

she may not be wrong.

No, Obama's background is well known and he's not an Arab . So we can say fairly categorically she's wrong about that.

And what if he is an Arab? Is there something so terribly wrong with being an Arab? Im an Arab. Dont tell me youre going to directly correlate being Arabic to flying planes into buildings and killing innocent people with no remorse?

 

[D_Fiona_Farvel]

And what if he is an Arab? Is there something so terribly wrong with being an Arab? Im an Arab. Dont tell me youre going to directly correlate being Arabic to flying planes into buildings and killing innocent people with no remorse?

I think you are being too sensitive.
It did not seem that Blocko was stating anything negative about Arabs, he was simply pointing out that Obama, is in fact, not an Arab.

Nothing is wrong with being an Arab. There have been Arabs in U.S. government, and high profile positions, too, John Sununu being one (as I mentioned in an earlier post on this thread). What I take issue with is their collective silence about anti-Obamism which is turning into anti-Arabism, anti-Islamism, and fear mongering against all groups that do not fit the all-American, apple pie, WASP ideal.