McCain picks Palin? as VP? LOL

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  1. pdxman

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    Okay,,,I was someone who favored Hillary Clinton over Obama and I was going to vote for McCain over Obama in the general election,,but now after hearing Obama last night and seeing McCains pic for VP I am definately voting for Obama. Palin? who the fuck is that? lol...and McCain bitches about Obama's lack of foreign policy and he pics this woman? LOL too funny. This woman has a very good chance of being president,,,McCain is 72 years old,,,he could croak at any momment,,,and he pics this woman to be our potential president? Way to go McCain..you just swayed this undecided Clinton backer to NOT vote for you.
     
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    Nothing against a women in the White House as Pres or V-Pres. But, I think McCain is tryingto stir up the pot a little bit and gain those who were Hillary supporters. Nice try McCain. But, why would you pick a women that we know nothing or very little about? Bad, bad McCain.

    OBama all the way!
     
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    She's TOTALLY HOT! I'd do her!
     
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    maybe so, but in swoop, he took all theattention away from Obama's speech...the first woman VP candidate in 24 years...

    he pretty much sealed the deal.

    the VP spot is largely symbolic...Obama, being inexperienced, and claiming to be an outsider, takes an experienced insider...

    McCain goes end around, and takes someone furthest away from washington he can, and a woman....

    it is a masterstroke.

    VP's don't really do anything at all.

    He completely stole Obama's thunder.
     
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    Yeah but my point is McCain is 72 years old! The VP pick is analyzed more when someone considers McCain is 72 and has a real possibility of croaking at anytime! and this woman could be our president? LOL he didnt steal any thunder away at all,,,,he just swayed me to vote for Obama now over him,,I was a Hillary backer and was going to vote for McCain over Obama,,but not any more
     
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    so Bernie Mac died at what 52?

    Obama could have a heart attack tomorrow.

    so how is the possiblity of McCain croaking and her being inexperienced as the VP somehow more terrifying than the prospect of the completely inexperienced Obama not croaking and being President without anyone croaking?

    She has run businesses he never has.

    She is considered the most popular governor in the country by her constituents...

    i find it odd that you have a bigger problem with an inexperienced woman being VP than with an inexperienced man being POTUS.

    That is a tad odd, when you look at it, no? The offhand chance that McCain dies in office, or the certainty that Obama takes office.

    If inexperience is you hangup, how is an inexperienced prez better than in inexperienced VP?
     
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    There's certainly potential political advantage to be gained by putting a woman on the ticket. But this pick has at least as many potential downsides as upsides. The ongoing "tampering" investigation she was cited for in July, for one. And the blowback from people who will see this as a cynical ploy for Hillary voters. Her proximity to recently-indicted congressman Ted Stevens. And her relative lack of experience.

    Masterstroke? Can't agree. It's in line with the rest of the McCain campaign strategy: i.e., go for the risk, since we're probably going to lose anyway.

    Stolen thunder? We shall see.
     
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    You have to admit that his choice was not widely anticipated, even as of 24 hours ago. The surprise effect is undeniable.

    The VP pick was politically deft and a savvy marketing move.

    Amazing how the disciplines of business management and political strategy have merged.
     
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    I caught Bill Hemmer (though not in its entirety, so I have no idea if he was quoting someone else or not) on Fox News uttering something about how her selection by McCain to be his VP not only cracked but broke the glass ceiling. How can anyone say that? She hasn't won the VP position yet, has she? Didn't Geraldine Ferraro break this particular glass ceiling (being nominated by a major party for VP) first 24 years ago? It's great that Republicans have now done what Democrats did nearly a quarter-century ago, but this isn't as big a 'first' as that was.

    I don't know much about Governor Palin, but from the little already revealed about her I'm not so sure I'd like her to be next in line as president. I had hoped John McCain would pick Kay Bailey Hutchinson as his running mate. Not because I wanted him or her to win, but because I wouldn't have been so unhappy to see either of them in those roles. I would have been very unhappy to see Tim Pawlenty, Rudy Giuliani or Mitt Romney as VP, so I'm glad he passed them over, but I just don't know if I can stomach this lady as VP or possibly president.

    Another thing, and it's entirely superficial, but I think she needs to lose the glasses, makeup and hairstyle. She looks too much like those porn actresses in eyeglass fetish pornos, to me anyway.:eek::redface::biggrin1:
     
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    The point is, McCain has just lost his right to criticize Obama's inexperience. His VP pick only has two years experience on the national stage. Two! In Alaska, Bridge to Nowhere country! And he's already got a pro-business lady working for him. Too bad she ran HP into the ground before getting kicked out.

    I understand that it was more of a strategic pick in order to court disenfranchised HRC voters, but McCain sorely underestimated the Clinton speeches during DNC week. HRC neatly addressed and answered to the historical moment of having a woman go as far as she did in a heated primary contest, and all the pundit talk about having a "catharsis" happened. No uproar, but an actual believeable commitment to support Obama and to take McCain to the debate table. And, honestly, should the worst happen to McCain (does the Sign of the Cross), what the hell is Purin gonna do?

    I don't know what kinda advice his advisers are giving him, but it's pretty scary. Still, I can't WAIT for Biden to jump all over this the moment McCain says a damn thing about inexperience. Or a strorng economy. Or $5 million making you rich.
     
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    This is all good BUT who would DO HER! She's HOT!!
     
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    1. The "tampering" investigation, is obviously nothing, or else she would not have been vetted by them. I doubt it is any more stirring than the talk of Obama's real estate friend or whatever.

    2. What blowback? If you want to talk about "cynical ploys", look at the Hillary supporters who were already talking about voting against McCain...talk about cynical...kill their parties chances because they don't like Obama? Sounds like the choice is something these cynics will absolutely love...nobody else will see it as a cynical ply, except maybe Obama voters, who now have to contend with the issue of gender, which is much larger than the issue of race. this country is only 12% black but it is 50% woman.

    women are going to be thrilled at the prospect of a woman VP, and they will not have nearly the same problems with any of her policies, since she is the VP candidate...it is therefore a "blameless" vote that moderate or Hillary women can support McCain with more palpably.

    3. She has more experience than Obama...and she is running for VP which has far less responsibilities. It highlights that perfectly.

    When people say "she is too inexperienced to be VP" now...the perfect retort is "so how is Obama experienced enough top be prez now?"

    Her "proximity to Stevens" is totally negligible...please state how she is tied to him, when she has been in office for 18 months?

    4. Well, you can't agree...that is fine...but what are folks talking about today?

    I'll give you a hint...it is not Obama's speech anymore.

    It is a possible woman VP...and a woman as VP means more to a larger part of this country's demographics (50% - women) than a black man as president (12% - black)

    cynical perhaps...but if McCain is so guaranteed to lose, why is the race now a dead heat?
     
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    I'm a big Obama fan. I'm very comfortable with this pick.

    You're neutral, right?
     
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    LOL!

    He's throwing the disgruntled feminists a bone.
     
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    Biden won't jump on it, because it would highlight the fact that inexperience is okay for VP but not for the pres. spot.

    He won't jump her on a strong economy...he has been in the senate for what 20 years? Obama ran the Harvard law review...Palin ran two businesses, while being a working mom...she has the edge there as well.


    Like it or not, this is a brilliant choice...obama has already got the "superstar" treatment in his first two years of notoriety...

    the media will be fascinated with her, she will be thrust into the spotlight and women will be intrigued...she will speak to women's groups, young girls, working women, ...people will want to know about her...Biden offers nothing intriguing or new...he is just...blah...she brings a spark to the McCain campaign that was not there.

    Not to mention, she will be set up to run for president in 8 years...

    say what you want, but this lady, who has been in politics for two years, is a step away from the Vice Presidency...which at this point in time, as one step closer than Hillary Clinton is to anything.

    It is a brilliant move.
     
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    Hey PDX!

    McCain could relocate to your fair state and capitalize on its liberal euthanisia laws to gracefully exit this world, thereby crowning her Queen of America.

    C'mon! Give the man some credit. Reagan was not exactly a young and supple teenager when he took the helm...and longevity has increased since Henry VIII's day.
     
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    What you're saying Flashy is not wrong in and of itself but I don't feel it pertains here. I feel in this case the point is that Obama, for better or worse, has gone through a months long primary process including debates and has been chosen by a majority of voters along the way and finally by the Democratic party to be their candidate for President. Palin has been chosen only by McCain, and of course the leaders of the Republican party to be the VP.

    That's a huge difference. It's the same difference between betting all your money on one horse of your choice because of a gut instinct and somebody taking all your money and telling you which horse it's going to be bet on. Big difference...
     
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    I am not voting for either one of them, if that is what you mean...but from the only standpoint that matters to me personally, (taxes, estate taxes, national defense) McCain addresses those issues better.

    i still would not vote for him, but he does not seek to harm me and my family economically, wheras Obama does.

    Neither addresses more important issues i would like to see dealth with such as (legalization of marijuana, legalization of hemp as an alternative to paper products and deforestation for example)

    as such, i don't care for either...but McCain would not hurt my family and me economically, wheras Obama clearly would, and has stated it.
     
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    not really...going through a primary process and debates does not make you more experienced or a better legislator or anything like that...you are just campaigning...and missing votes at your real job.

    The same applies to Biden though...the people did not pick him...OBama and the DNC did...and apparently, the Hillary supporters were pretty ticked of that she did not get a serious look.

    As for Obama being "chosen", this was hardly unanimity, no matter what PR flacks are saying now...this was an ugly and divisive split.

    The choice of Palin still illustrates though, that inexperience is best left in the VP slot and not at the top of the ticket
     
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