McCain Pulls Out of Michigan

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  1. sargon20

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    Why McCain is Leaving Michigan--and What It Means for Nov. 4

    Lost Thursday evening amid all the Beltway blather and bloviation about the Showdown in St. Louis was one of the most significant revelations since the start of the race. John McCain, it seems, has decided to pull out of the Great Lakes State. As Politico's Jonathan Martin reported first, "McCain will go off TV in Michigan, stop dropping mail there and send most of his staff to more competitive states." The information leaked after McCain, who has watched Barack Obama surge to a sizable lead in national and swing state polls over the past few days, canceled a local event scheduled for next week. "It was always a long shot for us to win," said an aide.

    That's probably accurate. But the truth is, without Michigan--which the campaign has now all but admitted that it will lose--it's very difficult to see how McCain can emerge victorious on Nov. 4

    Stumper : Why McCain is Leaving Michigan--and What It Means for Nov. 4
     
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    lol

    Don't underestimate the power of the October Surprise, jedi sargon.
     
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    And as of today Obama is up ten point in PA as well. Hmm.
     
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    Yanks up yard signs and yells "Take these signs, that Floozy, and the rest of your shit and get out of our state!!"

    Piece of shit. Good Riddens.
     
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    the GOP are purposely backing out.

    this economy is going to be a disaster. 2001-02 wasn't nothing.

    you all should be VERY afraid.
     
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    So, Republicans cut and run when trouble looms leaving others to clean up the mess?

    I'm more afraid of continued GOP dominance in government.

    Republicans have aptly demonstrated over the last decade or so that they're more adept at serving as an opposition party in the minority.
     
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    well all are or none are to blame (you are acting like Phil Ayesho at this point)... if it was that bad the last two years...

    where was Pelosi and Reid?

    nowhere.

    they spend months and months on Iraq.

    and now it's not even backpage.

    where was Barney Frank.

    game over.

    Obama's ratings will be south of 50% in no time.

    Question is when will the Democrat led Congress get above 30%?
     
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    Phil... you know the rules on two log ins?
     
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    When Bush leaves office and wen Obama is inaugurated.
     
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    Palin questions McCain's concession of Michigan, learns about the move from the newspapers

    Palin questions McCain's concession of Michigan - Yahoo! News

    Palin questions McCain's concession of Michigan
    By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer

    Sarah Palin questioned Republican presidential candidate John McCain's decision to abandon efforts to win Michigan, a campaign move she only learned about Friday morning when she read it in the newspapers.

    In an interview with Fox News Channel Friday, the Alaska governor said she was disappointed that the McCain campaign decided to stop competing in Michigan. In an indication that the vice presidential candidate had not been part of the decision, she said she had "read that this morning and I fired off a quick e-mail" questioning the move.

    "Todd and I, we'd be happy to get to Michigan and walk through those plants of the car manufacturers," Palin said, referring to her husband. "We'd be so happy to get to speak to the people in Michigan who are hurting because the economy is hurting."

    Palin acknowledged the GOP ticket's lackluster poll ratings in the state, but said: "I want to get back to Michigan and I want to try."

    Word of the McCain campaign's decision to move staff out of Michigan and stop advertising in the state broke around midday Thursday — the same day as Palin's vice presidential debate against Democrat Joe Biden. The campaign had decided Wednesday night that the $1 million a week it was spending in Michigan wasn't worth it with internal polls showing Democratic nominee Barack Obama approaching a double-digit lead.

    On Friday, Palin sought to re-establish herself as an asset for Republican John McCain's struggling presidential candidacy, branding their Democratic rivals as liberals not ready to lead in a time of crisis.

    Fresh off an upbeat debate performance, Palin told a ballroom full of $1,000 donors that McCain advisers warned her that Biden was "a skilled debater."

    "Now I know what they meant," she said. "He did his best to convince us that the two most liberal members of the Senate belong in the White House. But that was a tough sell, and especially in a time of crisis for our country."

    The Alaska governor's fiesty tone came as she eased back into the campaign trail. She was attending two fundraisers Friday in Texas and was also meeting privately with Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens to discuss energy policy. Pickens, once a major Republican Party donor, is sitting out this campaign to promote a plan to expand wind power.

    The campaign has planned a series of rallies for Palin in other battlegrounds. Among the stops scheduled for the days ahead are Colorado, Florida, North Carolina and Pennsylvania. She will also be in California this weekend for a fundraiser and rally.

    Based on the schedule, the campaign appears to be relying on Palin to invigorate Republican voters in Colorado and North Carolina, states that have reliably voted Republican in past presidential elections. Obama leads in polls in Florida and Pennsylvania.

    Palin is hitting the road after being sequestered for three days of debate preparation at McCain's Sedona, Ariz., compound and after interviews with ABC and CBS where she stumbled over foreign and domestic policy issues.

    Palin told Fox News that she would spend more time speaking to reporters, a switch from the tightly managed media relations during the past month.

    "I look forward to speaking to the media more and more every day and providing whatever access the media would want," Palin said.

    Palin said she had been "annoyed" in her interviews with CBS News anchor Katie Couric and had been caught off guard when asked what newspapers and magazines she read and to name Supreme Court decisions she disagreed with — questions Palin appeared not to be able to answer.

    Her responses, Palin said, were "an indication of being outside that Washington elite, outside of the media elite also."

    But Palin held her own in the debate with Biden, displaying facility with some issues such as energy and comfort as an advocate for McCain and as a hard-hitting critic of Obama.

    Palin was the featured attraction at the Dallas fundraiser; the event attracted more than 1,000 and fundraisers were encouraged to bundle up to $57,000 in donations for the Republican National Committee's victory fund.
     
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    It's about 15% now... almost double below Bush's.

    It was solidly above 30% circa spring 2007.

    Wow... say it to yourself... Bush's approval rating is circa 30% right now, and I will gloat that Pelosi's congress will be 30% at the lone highlight of the Obama era. We should be debating 60 vs 70%.
     
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    Did someone just fart around here, P.U. ^^^^
     
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    The democrats do NOT control congress. They have a MAJORITY....there's a big difference. Because the Democrats don't have a 60 seat majority in the Senate, the Repubs have been able to block the DEMS whenever they've introduced lrgislation curtailing the war in Iraq. In my humble opinion, the congrerssional approval ratings in not a refelection on the dems but shows the level of frustration of the peopl with the gridlock in wahington and a WAR tat the public wants to go away that continues to linger.
     
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    Maybe republicanism is a form of mad cow disease where you get holes in your brain...

    Holes where-ever the real information is.


    Having a 2 vote majority does not allow the Democrats to overrule a REPUBLICAN VETO from the Moroniest of the morons, GW.

    As long as there is a republican in the WHite House- the most the Democrats can do is refuse to include Bush demands in new legislation... and wait him out to see who looks the bigger fool.
    THus far, however, they have been stymied by the fact that there is NO limit to how big a fool Bush is WILLING to look.
     
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    That's all going to change, and not soon enough. Bush is off to pasture, and Democrats will pick up more seats in the house. Republicans won't matter until 2016 at the earliest.
     
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    Has anyone reported on or looked up how many states Obama has pulled out of? Last I heard, Obama is winning THAT race HANDILY.

    Why are reports like McCain's pulling out of Michigan SO MUCH BIGGER news than this:

    Obama Scales Back His 50 State Strategy, TIME-9/23/08

    Wake up, SHEEP! You are being innundated with shameless PROPAGANDA by those that have decided to SELECT your president for you. Don't fall for these LIES. McCain may or may not be a better president than Obama would be, but that is not the point. Katie and Gibson held interviews with McCain's running mate knowing full well what their role was in getting Obama (s)elected. You should know good and damn well that if anyone decided to play 'gotcha' with Obama that he could be easily made to look very bad. But they didn't and they won't. And they shouldn't. These gotcha interviews add no substance to the race and do nothing other than artificially infuse doubt and otherwise bad feelings about the person that this is being done to.

    Thank God Kieth Olberman and Chris Mathews got fired from their jobs as chief Obama operators in his propaganda division. But that was not enough. Emails and letters need to go out to these dishonest networks and espcially their sponsors with threats of boycotts any and every time they spew obvious dishonest propaganda, or are blatantly unfair to one side or the other, with the obvious intent to trick you into thinking that one candidate is the better choice than the other based on nothing other than negative emotions.

    Don't let this people hypnotize you into voting the way they want you to. Open your minds and get ALL the facts and then you'll know what is relavent or not.
     
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    Here's the article you linked to; according to the article you cited, Obama started in all fifty states:

    As of September 23, he was pulling out of four of them, and McCain's pulled out of one state. So yes, technically you're right: Obama has pulled out of more states than McCain, leaving Obama with offices in 46 states, and McCain with offices in 20 states.

    Oh, this is another rant about the liberal media, huh? Over the past eighteen years, GE (the parent company of NBC Universal) has been surprisingly well-balanced. Somewhat lopsided this year, admittedly, but then again, lopsided back in 2000 as well.

    Not to mention the fact that Olbermann and Matthews (2 n's, 2 t's) weren't "fired"; their shows were each expanded to two broadcasts every night during the election season.
     
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    All the Republicans do is lie....get rid of them and see the difference :) Cachondo
     
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    They are simply unfit to govern. Governance is not their goal. Destroying government is the goal. Government is bad. Business is good.
     
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    Oh man- do you have any idea how STOOOOPID this sounds coming from a backer of the party that has Oreilly, Rove, Limbaugh, Hannity, and the entire staff of FOX shamelessly shilling and spining for the republican party?

    They only difference between republican attack dogs and Olbermann?

    Fox shills attack "liberals" for being "Liberals"- they sonlt dicuss policy or its effects- they attack them for trivial and personal things.

    Where as Olberman attacks republicans for their CRIMES agaisnt the CONSTITUTION they swore to uphold.




    Besides... am I the only who has noticed that you will NEVER see a Conservative political show that is even remotely funny?


    I mean... the Daily show does a pretty good job of skewering BOTH the right and the left...

    But I have never seen as Right leaning program where they could make anyone really laugh.


    Maybe its because they can't see, nor laugh, at their OWN absurdities...

    Humor requires a certain sense of humility that Conservatives seem to often lack.
     
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