McCain VP Hopeful Signs Anti-Science Bill

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    Mitt Romney should be McCain's only choice for a running mate.
     
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    Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr has a better chance at becoming Obama’s running mate then Bobby Jindal has at becoming McCain’s!

    As for that political hack Bobby Jindal, will he and his fellow loser Jesus freaks ever stop trying too shove the alleged Jesus down the kiddies throats at our public schools?
     
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    Jindal will kill McCain among any cross-over voters. This piece from The Huffington Post illustrates what the Dems will use against him. There's castration, exorcism, and ethics violations. Oh my!

    Sebelius is my current safe bet.
     
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    Although I will probably vote Democratic, this is not an anti-Republican nor is it an anti-McCain thread.

    It is an anti-ignorance thread. Jindal = ignorance.
     
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    It will be difficult to convince people that a man who graduated Brown magna cun laude, is a Rhodes Scholar, and headed the Louisiana State University system, among other things, is ignorant.

    What he has done is use his credentials to lend credence to Creationism.
     
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    Yes, that is what makes it so surprising. His degree was in Biology. What kind of educated idiot signs into law a bill undermining the integrity of science education for children?
     
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    Preaching alleged gods that have as much supporting evidence as leprechauns does not make one look intelligent.

     
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    The same kind of idiot we are fighting in the Middle East right now.

    Osama bid Laden has a degree in civil engineering and is also enslaved by antiquated mysticism under a different name.
     
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    One that is wholly and completely devoted to furthering his own agenda at the expense of everyone else, including children; an opportunist. I don't believe for a minute that he believes in Creationism. He was voluntarily baptized as an adult into Roman Catholicism and the Roman Catholic church has stated that evolution and Catholic theology are not in opposition. I doubt he would, as an adult, voluntarily join a religion he felt did not reflect his beliefs on such an important issue.

    He did, and has done, whatever is necessary to further his career, including, I suspect, being baptized as most people in Louisiana are Roman Catholics. It's one thing to operate on faith born of ignorance and wholly another to operate on feigned ignorance born of opportunism. The latter just infuriates me and tells me he's a man of bad character.

    It does where he's from and, sadly, in much of the country. I fear that when the uneducated get hold of his impressive credentials, they'll tout him as an authority on Creationism. "See?? This here Roods Skawlar and graduate from a big fancy liberal school up north thinks Creationism is true then it must be! See? It really is a science!"
     
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    Having a degree doesn't mean you're not ignorant. Everyone is ignorant at times. Yup, even magna cun laudes.
     
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    Someone initiated a recall effort here in Louisiana for Bobby J just yesterday. That's because after running on a "clean up government" platform he has said he'd not veto a bill Louisiana representatives recently passed - one that doubles their salary just two years in the wake of Katrina and Rita.

    The people are in a furor over it. The reps had tried to triple their salaries but settled on a "compromise".

    So maybe Bobby J will be "available".
     
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    Jason, this not only nails the situation exactly, it borders on poetry.

    Also, this is not meant to be a religion bashing thread. I am a very religious person, but like the 70% of all the world's Christians, I find no conflict between religion and science.

    I also believe, as Jason does, that the idiot Jindal knows very well that there is no scientific controversy over the basic notions of the modern theory of evolution. And he also knows that Creationism and Intelligent Design are scientific nonsense and bad theology.
     
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    Graduating from Brown magna cum laude with a degree in biology means there is no way he does not only know the theory of evolution inside out, but he also knows the scientific process, what a theory is, and how creationism isn't remotely a science at all. He may be ignorant in other areas, but impossible for him to be ignorant in this one.
     
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    Neither should make the mistake of confusing stupidity with ignorance. It is doubtful that a Rhodes scholar could achieve that honor by being stupid. But there are ignorant people everywhere. Ignorance is simply a lack of knowledge, or ignoring the information available. That could certainly apply to an otherwise intelligent person who chooses to ignore a preponderance of scientific data.
     
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    I'm always somewhat amused at positivists tossing around the word "ignorant" at others
     
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    Hey Nick, I resemble that remark.
     
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    They better give Lamarckism equal time with Intelligent Design, dammit!
     
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    With alleged &#8220;Intelligent Design&#8221; just exactly what is there to teach anyway?

    Are the gonna educate the kiddies on all of the alleged gods throughout history (the kiddies will need to stay in school until they are 65 years old if this is the case) and tell then not one of them has a shred of proof backing the story or will this be typical Louisiana where they are shoving the alleged Christian god down the kiddies throats like usual?
     
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    Actually, I don't resemble that remark. I am not a positivist. But I am a pragmatist. Science is not the route to universal truth or universal welfare. But it is the route to a very useful truth and a great deal of welfare.

    It is especially useful as an antidote to mere superstition. One cannot deny that science is a discipline that creates profoundly useful explanations of natural processes. It is one of man's most amazing intellectual achievements. To not now this is ignorance. To know this and deny it is willful ignorance. To deny it through enacting laws that undermine the teaching of science for one's personal political gain is destructive willful ignorant opportunism.
     
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