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That reminds me of another question in regards to Wessels study. What if the biggest cocks are more likely to be on the leanest guys? And then they add the *group average* fat pad...that could make the far right outliers even bigger than they are. Eg Guys with 6.5 inch NBP have avg fat pad of 0.5. But then they add group fat pad of >1 to get BPEL of 7.5.
I realize the converse would be true too: smallest cocks might avg the largest fat pads. But that would only even-out the mean BPEL. It would still give inflated outliers, right?

it is a common impact of studies like this, they are not intending to inform on the fringes, but more so on the majority. “We” are all generally interested in the upper end of the spectrum. It isn’t uncommon to be honest, statistics is not meant for specifics, but rather for generalizations
 
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That reminds me of another question in regards to Wessels study. What if the biggest cocks are more likely to be on the leanest guys? And then they add the *group average* fat pad...that could make the far right outliers even bigger than they are. Eg Guys with 6.5 inch NBP have avg fat pad of 0.5. But then they add group fat pad of >1 to get BPEL of 7.5.
I realize the converse would be true too: smallest cocks might avg the largest fat pads. But that would only even-out the mean BPEL. It would still give inflated outliers, right?

*just saw the highest functional (BPEL) in study was 8.2+ . But, if that dude only had a 0.5 fat pad, he’d really only be 7.5.
Well the biggest nbp in the study was just 7.5.
 
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I’d even wager that torso size isn’t really even that correlated with vaginal length. It’s purely anecdotal n=1, but the women with the most width & depth had wider hips & bigger asses IME. They definitely didn’t necessarily have long torsos, either.

Yah I agree. I think its more overall size of hips and groin area including buttocks then literally just length.
 
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Ok. Looking at data, the largest NBP was 7.48 inches. And the largest BPEL was 8.29 inches. So at most, the guy w/ 7.48 had a 0.79 inch fat pad.

But this flawed method still will affect the extremes on both sides. My guess, is the mean BPEL stays the same, but the smallest cocks are actually longer, and the longest are actually shorter.
 
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Someone mentioned age earlier and it got me thinking, not specifically about age but rather about time someone was born. Specifically, the dynamics of when a guy is born. For example, the extreme of it depended on where you were at the time, but globally post-war the world was on a reduced caloric intake for years and years.

in America, we half joke about the food we eat compared to our parents (steroids, volume, etc.), but it would casually thinking about it, there is probably more to those inputs than just casual foot size and height impacts. The feast or famine impact. I mean honestly, who knows, a world pre vs. post Chernobyl or global warming.

I mean height has gone up on average like 8cm in the last 100 years, is there any impact to penis size? Is it from. Nutrition? Breeding?

Personally I think the biggest impact it would have would be not necessarily when they were born but when they went through puberty.

Like if you took two pairs of identical twins. One set female and one set male. If you had 1 male and 1 female on a very nutritional diet and environmentally friendly (western world generally) place to grow up and the other 1 male and 1 female were malnourished and living in an impoverished area (developing world let alone places where there is practically slave labor like in China) I would bet a fair penny that the nourished male and female would have stronger, larger bodies with the male having a larger penis and muscles and the female having larger breast and butts and muscles.
 

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Personally I think the biggest impact it would have would be not necessarily when they were born but when they went through puberty.

Like if you took two pairs of identical twins. One set female and one set male. If you had 1 male and 1 female on a very nutritional diet and environmentally friendly (western world generally) place to grow up and the other 1 male and 1 female were malnourished and living in an impoverished area (developing world let alone places where there is practically slave labor like in China) I would bet a fair penny that the nourished male and female would have stronger, larger bodies with the male having a larger penis and muscles and the female having larger breast and butts and muscles.
That is an interesting angle. I have heard about female mensuration occurring earlier and earlier now. It is kind of the other side of the same coin, so there might be something to it.

But again, the why is highly debated. Is it nutrition or hormones/steroids or just calories at will?
 
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Personally I think the biggest impact it would have would be not necessarily when they were born but when they went through puberty.

Like if you took two pairs of identical twins. One set female and one set male. If you had 1 male and 1 female on a very nutritional diet and environmentally friendly (western world generally) place to grow up and the other 1 male and 1 female were malnourished and living in an impoverished area (developing world let alone places where there is practically slave labor like in China) I would bet a fair penny that the nourished male and female would have stronger, larger bodies with the male having a larger penis and muscles and the female having larger breast and butts and muscles.
Agreed. There’s so many other dynamics at play too. Eg. The literature says on average, men with the smallest penis are less fertile. With fertility drugs and other technology, these men can reproduce and create more tiny cocks better than 100+ years ago.
 
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Well the biggest nbp in the study was just 7.5.

The Wessells study found a 7.5" non bone pressed penis out of 80 guys yet the penis calculator site claims 7" is 99.3%-ile. That would mean 7/1000 guys have 7". It's all crap. 7" is more like 70/1000.
 
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The Wessells study found a 7.5" non bone pressed penis out of 80 guys yet the penis calculator site claims 7" is 99.3%-ile. That would mean 7/1000 guys have 7". It's all crap. 7" is more like 70/1000.
Not only that, according to Wessels graph, 5-6 guys out of 80 had 7.0 NBPEL or above. To confuse things further, they only have 67 data points on the graph (instead of 80). It’s possible they are using “functional” length...but then where is the 21 cm point?

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Honestly, between the Veale study incorrectly using the Wessels NPEL (they were supposed to use BPEL for all), the significant differences in results between all studies, and the contradictory data within some studies...I don’t believe we have any idea what the average length/girth is other than to say, it’s between 5-7 inches for length...and 4.5-5.25 for girth. Both unsatisfactory conclusions!

And if anyone says “it could never be 7!”. The Cancun study revealed NBPEL of about 6 inches. If you add a 1 inch fat pad there’s your 7. Sure, the study was flawed, but they all are.
 
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Not only that, according to Wessels graph, 5-6 guys out of 80 had 7.0 NBPEL or above. To confuse things further, they only have 67 data points on the graph (instead of 80). It’s possible they are using “functional” length...but then where is the 21 cm point?

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Honestly, between the Veale study incorrectly using the Wessels NPEL (they were supposed to use BPEL for all), the significant differences in results between all studies, and the contradictory data within some studies...I don’t believe we have any idea what the average length/girth is other than to say, it’s between 5-7 inches for length...and 4.5-5.25 for girth. Both unsatisfactory conclusions!

And if anyone says “it could never be 7!”. The Cancun study revealed NBPEL of about 6 inches. If you add a 1 inch fat pad there’s your 7. Sure, the study was flawed, but they all are.
Well, we’re typically discussing nbpel. This is always around 5.25 on average. Also, the Cancun study was on self-selected college kids. They were unlikely to have huge fat pads.

As for Wessels, I find it fishy in general they found a 3 incher & so many 7+ in just 80 people. I’m very skeptical of it in comparison to all the other studies I’ve seen. That being said, I see now it was on men seeking penis enlargement surgery. I’ve said it before, but I think both smaller and bigger guys care more about their cock sizes. Bigger guys focus on it more because they attach their egos to it. What do men with power want? More power. This site is proof of that.

I would take this study with a huge grain of salt for this reason.
 
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Well, we’re typically discussing nbpel. This is always around 5.25 on average. Also, the Cancun study was on self-selected college kids. They were unlikely to have huge fat pads.

As for Wessels, I find it fishy in general they found a 3 incher & so many 7+ in just 80 people. I’m very skeptical of it in comparison to all the other studies I’ve seen. That being said, I see now it was on men seeking penis enlargement surgery. I’ve said it before, but I think both smaller and bigger guys care more about their cock sizes. Bigger guys focus on it more because they attach their egos to it. What do men with power want? More power. This site is proof of that.

I would take this study with a huge grain of salt for this reason.
Edit* I now see that Wessels wasn’t necessarily on men seeking the surgery, so who knows how they found so many outliers. In any case, 80 men is an extremely small sample size & it’s amazing they found such outliers on both ends of the spectrum. 3-4 is uniquely small and 7+ is uniquely large according to all other data. Also, the Cancun study found an average of 5.5 nbp. Even in their sampling of college men who were self-selected, they didn’t turn up anything close to 7.
 
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Edit* I now see that Wessels wasn’t necessarily on men seeking the surgery, so who knows how they found so many outliers. In any case, 80 men is an extremely small sample size & it’s amazing they found such outliers on both ends of the spectrum. 3-4 is uniquely small and 7+ is uniquely large according to all other data. Also, the Cancun study found an average of 5.5 nbp. Even in their sampling of college men who were self-selected, they didn’t turn up anything close to 7.
Where did you see Cancun study found 5.5 NBP? I’m seeing 5.88. The calcSD site doesn’t even say whether it was NBP OR BP. I could of sworn it was NBP, but now I can’t confirm.
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You’re right it’s 5.8. 5.8 nbp makes sense fir fit, self-selected college kids as an average. Over half were between somewhere in the range of 5.5-6.3 inches, so it’s probably not a great data set regardless. Still, if over half fell into a 0.8 inch range, 7+ as an average even here would be absurd.
 

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fellas if you all want a big laugh please take a look at this debate in the chris strokes thread . i havnt logged in here in a while but have had a good laugh at this. this is the most insane user i have seen.

Dr_Feelgood_LV is claiming Chris Strokes might be as big as 11.5 inches.

I think my conservative estimate of 10 to 10.5 could end up being 11.5 if ones uses a tape measure that follows the curvature instead of a ruler that will just a show a flat 10 inches.

He also says Mark Ashley is 10 inches and mandingo is 14. yes he believes this.

criss strokes real measurement!! 6.5 INCHES!!!

He called another user out to post his measurments but this user actually looks way bigger than strokes (a genuine 8" ?)

criss strokes real measurement!! 6.5 INCHES!!!

Now how do I put this kindly. Pleas some of you talk sense into Dr Feelgood he is actually attacking other editors viciously for saying Chris Strokes is 7.5 . crazy. I am tipping you off because theres some very rational people here. See you all next year.