Men are stuipd!

[maxcok]

I think stupid people are stupid. Tautological, but that's probably the safest generalization anyone can make. :biggrin1:

It is what it is. They are what they are.

 

[vince]

Well, sleeping with your girl's mom would be stupid. No denying that! Or the fact that some people are just plain damn serially stupid.

But I think there are a couple ways for a guy to avoid being stupid. It may be corny, but try the Golden Rule... Treat other people in a way that you would expect to be treated. Bearing in mind that everyone has different standards and what might be cool for you may not be for someone else.

Be forgiving of what you think is the other person's stupidity. Again, people's perceptions and realities are not always the same as your's.

Don't be a doormat either. If you try to be empathic and considerate and you still get dumped on for every stupid thing you say or do, walk away. The trouble with hearing negativity all the time is, you may start to believe it. It happened to my brother and it ruined his life.

 

[Kassokilleri2ff]

I leave the toilet seat up.
I use the counter as cutting board.
I don't hang up my jacket in the closet.
I leave the TV on when I leave the room.
I let the gas tank get to empty before I fill it up.
I leave 1/27th of a glass of milk left in the carton.
I forget to clear porn out of the history.
I throw my dirty clothes on the floor, not in the hamper.
I get angry when I play video games.
I have been driving with one break light and one headlight for about 3 months now.

Ya I'd say I'm pretty stupid.

Haha! This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Everybody is all up in arms about generalizations and such. I guess it is impossible for me to convey what I mean most people never understand.

 

[Kassokilleri2ff]

How about this. When I hear a woman say "god men are so stupid!" in passing. What kinds of things does she mean? I'm not trying to debate the % of men that are stupid or to what degree of stupidity. This has gone waaay far from what I meant but I can't ever get people to understand me. I meant things that make women say "men are so stupid!" I don't know any other way to put it. Subgirl said a very good one about men obsessing about their dick size. Awesome! I want more examples of that kind of stuff.

A nuclear bomb engineer is probably smarter than most of us, but I'm sure his girlfriend talks shit to her friends about her "stupid" boyfriend. What did he do in the relationship to make her mad and say he is stupid? That kind of stuff, not actually stupid people like people who can't do simple math or walk out into the street without looking

 

[petite]

Haha! This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Everybody is all up in arms about generalizations and such. I guess it is impossible for me to convey what I mean most people never understand.

It's all about how you word your OP.

How about, "Ladies, what are the stupid mistakes men have made with you? What are the things that have made you think, God he's so stupid! Tell me some of the things that your boyfriends, husbands, lovers, and significant others have done that have driven you mad, annoyed you, and upset you so that I may avoid making the same mistakes. Ladies please advise me by telling me your personal experiences. I do not want to make the same mistakes as other men if I can become wiser by listening to you!" That doesn't force us to generalize that something one man or even several men have done is a flaw that all men possess, so it's a lot easier to answer the question, plus it's flattering us, too, which doesn't hurt. :tongue: Then you could provide a few examples of what you mean to give us an idea of what you're talking about, like, "Please tell me the big things and the small things. Did your last boyfriend leave the toilet seat up? Did he run around behind your back? Tell me about it, I'm listening."

I bet that would get you the response that you're looking for.

Then I could answer it like this:

Well, one thing TheBF does that drives me crazy is when he borrows my vehicle and he leaves the gas tank empty, so when I'm in a hurry to go somewhere, I have to stop and fill up the tank! And what's with his refusal to buckle his seatbelt before he turns the car on? He insists on weaving all over the road while he tries to buckle the seatbelt. One day he's going to get into a car wreck because of it!

He also does this one thing, but I don't think there's a cure for it. He can never find anything, even when it's right in front of him. I don't understand it. The part that drives me nuts is that he knows he's so bad at finding things that he doesn't even try, he just yells out my name, and then he just stands there while I look for whatever thing he lost. I know that he's not good at finding things, but he could at least pretend that he's trying by looking around too so that I don't feel like his personal assistant.

See? Those are all flaws that many men possess, but not all men, but since I'm not talking about all men, I can complain that TheBF does it without being offensively sexist.

 

[B_Hung Jon]

I leave the toilet seat up.
I use the counter as cutting board.
I don't hang up my jacket in the closet.
I leave the TV on when I leave the room.
I let the gas tank get to empty before I fill it up.
I leave 1/27th of a glass of milk left in the carton.
I forget to clear porn out of the history.
I throw my dirty clothes on the floor, not in the hamper.
I get angry when I play video games.
I have been driving with one break light and one headlight for about 3 months now.

Ya I'd say I'm pretty stupid.

I've noticed that most of these things you do could be defined as being inattentive. I think women see a lot of things about men which seem that we don't care. I think that "not caring" about things translates over to not caring about them. Does that make sense? So the opposite would also be true; if we men cared more about the little things in our situation with women, then they'd feel we cared about them more. :smile:

 

[Kassokilleri2ff]

It's all about how you word your OP.

How about, "Ladies, what are the stupid mistakes men have made with you? What are the things that have made you think, God he's so stupid! Tell me some of the things that your boyfriends, husbands, lovers, and significant others have done that have driven you mad, annoyed you, and upset you so that I may avoid making the same mistakes. Ladies please advise me by telling me your personal experiences. I do not want to make the same mistakes as other men if I can become wiser by listening to you!" That doesn't force us to generalize that something one man or even several men have done is a flaw that all men possess, so it's a lot easier to answer the question, plus it's flattering us, too, which doesn't hurt. :tongue: Then you could provide a few examples of what you mean to give us an idea of what you're talking about, like, "Please tell me the big things and the small things. Did your last boyfriend leave the toilet seat up? Did he run around behind your back? Tell me about it, I'm listening."

I bet that would get you the response that you're looking for.

Yea but I'll never think of it like that right off the bat. I guess I'm just dumb lol.

 

[Kassokilleri2ff]

I've noticed that most of these things you do could be defined as being inattentive. I think women see a lot of things about men which seem that we don't care. I think that "not caring" about things translates over to not caring about them. Does that make sense? So the opposite would also be true; if we men cared more about the little things in our situation with women, then they'd feel we cared about them more. :smile:

This is why i'm never getting married. I can't deal with that kind of stuff. I wont use a cutting board and I'm certainly not going to marry anybody who cares about stupid little things like what the guy you quoted said. I need a woman who is a lazy ass bum like me haha.

 

[helgaleena]

Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe. - Frank Zappa

The great Zappa was not one of the stupid! :240:

 

[B_Hung Jon]

This is why i'm never getting married. I can't deal with that kind of stuff. I wont use a cutting board and I'm certainly not going to marry anybody who cares about stupid little things like what the guy you quoted said. I need a woman who is a lazy ass bum like me haha.

That's the point I'm trying to make. To a woman, they don't think that these are little things. If you truly care about another person, you want to help them and make their lives better and easier. That's the kind of energy women prefer in a man. A guy who is considerate, thoughtful and caring.

 

[maxcok]

That's the point I'm trying to make. To a woman, they don't think that these are little things. If you truly care about another person, you want to help them and make their lives better and easier. That's the kind of energy women prefer in a man. A guy who is considerate, thoughtful and caring.

Exactly, and it applies to all relationships, not just M/F relationships, not just love and sex relationships. To ignore and dismiss another person's concerns and sensitivities as unimportant, especially one with whom you might potentially have a relationship, is immature, self-centered, and arrogant, i.e. stuipd, I mean, stupid.

 

[Gillette]

That's the point I'm trying to make. To a woman, they don't think that these are little things. If you truly care about another person, you want to help them and make their lives better and easier. That's the kind of energy women prefer in a man. A guy who is considerate, thoughtful and caring.

On the other hand doing some of these things could be a very clever way of learning what kind of person you're linking yourself to.

Someone explaining that cutting on the counter leaves scars on the counter making it difficult to sanitize and/or dulls the knife blade making it necessary to replace one or both is quite different than someone having a hissy fit that you didn't use the cutting board.

It may not be stupidity after all. :wink:

 

[vince]

I'd probably have hissy too if someone repeatedly used a knife on the countertop. Guys who can't take care of the basics by themselves should never leave their mommys!

 

[Gillette]

I'd probably have hissy too if someone repeatedly used a knife on the countertop. Guys who can't take care of the basics by themselves should never leave their mommys!

If it's repeated even after explanations have been given then I agree. Such would be very dense and inconsiderate indeed.

 

[bearvwe]

Anybody know why girls get so upset when a guy leaves the toilet seat up? I have never heard a guy get mad at his wife/gf for always leaving the seat down.

 

[hctib1]

Anybody know why girls get so upset when a guy leaves the toilet seat up? I have never heard a guy get mad at his wife/gf for always leaving the seat down.

I don't want to look into a toilet when I go into the bathroom. Guys don't seem to know the concept of "double flushing" nor do they know how to clean a toilet. I don't wanna see "floaties" because someone was lazy and couldn't flush again when the first time didn't do the job........wonder why we think men r stupid

 

[B_subgirrl]

Anybody know why girls get so upset when a guy leaves the toilet seat up? I have never heard a guy get mad at his wife/gf for always leaving the seat down.

I've never gotten it myself, and I AM a girl! Why should the men be the ones inconvenienced? I think everyone should be inconvenienced equally.

Although you shouldn't leave the LID up if your toilet is in the same room as your toothbrushes.

 

[B_Nicodemous]

It's all about how you word your OP.

How about, "Ladies, what are the stupid mistakes men have made with you? What are the things that have made you think, God he's so stupid! Tell me some of the things that your boyfriends, husbands, lovers, and significant others have done that have driven you mad, annoyed you, and upset you so that I may avoid making the same mistakes. Ladies please advise me by telling me your personal experiences. I do not want to make the same mistakes as other men if I can become wiser by listening to you!" That doesn't force us to generalize that something one man or even several men have done is a flaw that all men possess, so it's a lot easier to answer the question, plus it's flattering us, too, which doesn't hurt. :tongue: Then you could provide a few examples of what you mean to give us an idea of what you're talking about, like, "Please tell me the big things and the small things. Did your last boyfriend leave the toilet seat up? Did he run around behind your back? Tell me about it, I'm listening."

I bet that would get you the response that you're looking for.

Then I could answer it like this:

Well, one thing TheBF does that drives me crazy is when he borrows my vehicle and he leaves the gas tank empty, so when I'm in a hurry to go somewhere, I have to stop and fill up the tank! And what's with his refusal to buckle his seatbelt before he turns the car on? He insists on weaving all over the road while he tries to buckle the seatbelt. One day he's going to get into a car wreck because of it!

He also does this one thing, but I don't think there's a cure for it. He can never find anything, even when it's right in front of him. I don't understand it. The part that drives me nuts is that he knows he's so bad at finding things that he doesn't even try, he just yells out my name, and then he just stands there while I look for whatever thing he lost. I know that he's not good at finding things, but he could at least pretend that he's trying by looking around too so that I don't feel like his personal assistant.

See? Those are all flaws that many men possess, but not all men, but since I'm not talking about all men, I can complain that TheBF does it without being offensively sexist.

LMAO!!!!! Ok I am guilty of the seat belt thing as well, but then so are both my sisters. Must be genetic:wink:

As for the can't find things? I will make an honest attempt at looking for things, but it will usually come to me having to ask someone else to find it (though I do prefece my request with "I am probably just being blind, but...")

The gas tank bieng empty? Both my Sis and BIL do this to each other though...the both swear they don't!

 

[B_Nicodemous]

I've never gotten it myself, and I AM a girl! Why should the men be the ones inconvenienced? I think everyone should be inconvenienced equally.

Although you shouldn't leave the LID up if your toilet is in the same room as your toothbrushes.

They did an episode of Mythbusters on this. But it wasn't "the don't leave the lid up", just don't leave your toothbrushes out, as everytime a person flushes, microscopic droplets of poo water get everywhere. Not enough to make you sick, but still a gross enough thought that the two main hosts were like "I don't care, my toothbrushes are getting put up.")

Sorry for the highjack. Please feel free to resume:tongue:

 

[helgaleena]

Only short men can get away with leaving the seat up. Taller men know it's a long way to the target and get more adept at wiping off their splash in a considerate fashion, which also leads them to be more tidy about how they leave the entire throne.

As soon as my sons got really lofty they started sitting down at home. Mom still has to wipe under the rim though.