Men are the most likely to be bi/bicurious. It's in all of us. Discuss

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I'm fully convinced of this aft being on craigslist, seeing guys take constant peeks in the locker rooms to "measure up" and the bromances.

Men are more sexual than women. Therefore it naturally follows that men are more bisexual too. The main reason people believe that female bisexuality is more common than male bisexuality is because of the porn industry. The belief is also brought about by women who use bisexuality as a marketing ploy or to get attention as a result of low self-esteem. Men don't use their sexuality as a marketing ploy in the way women do, and therefore they keep much of their bisexuality private.

Alfred Kinsey found that about 70% of men were bisexual in orientation. Too many straight boys will be up for a bit of fun and won't mind getting a bj from a decent dude if the opportunity arises. I just think society should own up to this and stop this double standard of sexuality.

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My problem is with the OP itself. Your evidence that men are more likely to be bi is Craigslist, peeks in locker rooms and bromances? Bloody hell, that’s weak. Craigslist is a skewed sample, you have no way of comparing ‘peeks’ in male locker rooms to ‘peeks’ in female locker rooms and by sexualising ‘bromance’ which, by it’s definition, is non-sexual, it looks like you are projecting.

I’m not sure how you came to consider yourself such an authority on women, but could you be any more insulting? No, men are not more sexual than women. Some men will likely be more sexual than some women... but then some women will be more sexual than some men. Who are these ‘some people’ whose beliefs you cite and how do you know what they believe and why they believe it?

You seem to be asserting that women who openly identify as bisexual are not truly bisexual, but identify as such as a marketing ploy... Are you using this in the literal sense? Actual marketing in a commercial capacity? In which case, you really should cite your source that these commercials were concocted by women.

Or do you mean when ‘advertising’ for a partner, because everything a woman does, including being attracted to other women, must be centred on pleasing men, right? Also, there is a huge assumption here – not all women buy into the stereotype that all men fantasise about bisexual women. Or then, there is your alternative – women who are bisexual because they are attention seekers due to low self esteem... I hope you can prove that, because it just reads as incredibly insulting.

‘Men don’t use their sexuality as a marketing ploy in the way that women do’ - I would disagree whichever meaning you attach to ‘marketing’. It’s interesting that men not advertising their bisexuality are undoubtedly closeted in some way... rather than simply straight. As for the straight guy/bj angle, it’s been done to death and there are more than a few straight guys on this site who would disagree with you.

Regarding the statement that men are the most likely to be bi/bicurious, I have no idea if that is fact or not – just that your argument in favour of it contains no evidence only your own assumptions and prejudices. The burden of proof here is pretty funny – women have a struggle on their hands to prove they are bisexual in contrast to the men who have a struggle on their hands to prove they're not. Gotta love peeps who have the audacity to tell other peeps what they really feel.
 

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My own world? pretty much every guy friend I know is the same way. I guess we're in "denial" because everyone is at least bi :pat:

What your denying is that someone can like women just as much or more than you do AND also like guys at the same time.

That idea doesn't seem to sit well with the, "I'm 100% straight!" guys.
 

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@Alphamale.

That's where I beg to differ. It's a vast difference between being what some people have referred to as "Homoflexible," where they'd do something with someone of the same sex, under the right circumstances, Being bi, and would enjoy a same sex encounter with the right person, and being able to admit someone of the same sex is good looking, but not wanting to do anything sexual with them. There's also the concept of enjoying attention from anyone, even someone of the same sex.

Honestly, I think that most people wouldn't do anything sexual with someone of the same sex, and the vast majority of people who list 80% straight or higher, it's being able to appreciate the beauty of the same sex, or enjoying the attention.

I see what you are saying.

In your opinion, is the part I bolded because people are programmed that way or is that out of societal pressures?
 

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What your denying is that someone can like women just as much or more than you do AND also like guys at the same time.

That idea doesn't seem to sit well with the, "I'm 100% straight!" guys.

I'm not denying that they can't, I'm saying I wouldn't call that being straight. And if you don't believe there are guys who are "100%" you don't have to, I know myself more than anyone in here.
 

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I do agree with much of what you posted, but I'm not sure about men being more sexual than women per se. I do, however, think that everyone is bisexual to some extent.

oh, now, hold on, hold on....I hafta agree with Alpha on the women part! I can only speak for myself -- but I've found that I'm very sexual -- and sometimes more so than my particular (male) partner. So....if I were to follow the logic of this post, I think women are more sexual than men -- because I am! It doesn't work that way. Are more people simply people and willing to look at each individual as a person - not as a man or woman, but as a person and not let society tell them 'you're a man, so you must be attracted to a woman' and so on? I don't know. Maybe we are in our own little fish bowls -- surrounding ourselves with people who think the same way. *shrug*

I don't know what 'super straight' means either. Is that how we define our sexual attraction -- either bi, super straight or gay? I think this is the issue -- we each have our own individual sexuality -- it can't be lumped into a man's or woman's or a straight or gay or bi sexuality.

Maybe. I dunno! It's such a complicated issue -- sexuality. Might be why there are tons of books written on it! :biggrin1:
 

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I'm not denying that they can't, I'm saying I wouldn't call that being straight. And if you don't believe there are guys who are "100%" you don't have to, I know myself more than anyone in here.

And you purporting the bolded part over and over again (and not just on this thread) does "what" exactly for "who"? :confused:

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Secondly, If liking women only makes you straight, and being bi means you like both men and women... then what do the labels even matter? Both of those type of people still like women.

The only reason to "point out" that one of them likes something additional that you do not, implies that liking the additional thing is bad somehow. I.e., it's something that you don't want to be associated with so you have to point out that "you" don't like it.
 
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Ummm. OK Alpha can speak for himself, but in the meantime...

I don't think EVERY guy is secretly gay, or wants to fuck another guy. Not in the least. The OP was about most (most, not all) men being bi or bi curious. I acknowledge that there are 100% purely straight men (and women) who would never wish to have sexual relations of any kind form a member of the same sex, would derive zero pleasure form one, and are not romantically attracted to them. The same goes for 100% Gay individuals.

Yes APRROX 10% (based on a survey done with specific questions at a time when homosexuality was a greater deal then today, and people would be more hesitant to tell the truth even in an anonymous survey..but i beg to differ) but the same study placed about 70% on some range of the grey bi area, right? SO saying that most men (and I think 70% would qualify as most being over 50%) is a fair enough comment. No need to get all bent out of shape about it.

YES, there are 100% hetero and 100% homo and 100% bi who never vary. And then there is the rest. The ones who may, for a certain individual, for x time or encounter or forever, ill date someone OUTSIDE there self proclaimed sexual orientation. They usually get flack for the people of there "old" orientation for it. We are not even talking full out intercourse. Oral, manual stim, all count as well. Or the ones who are emotionally bonded to a person of the same sex (if they are straight) and truly love them but sexually are not there (and there is no internal conflict, it's just how they are)

I, as a gay an, do not think all straight men are really in denial and are just aching to get there bi on. Nope. But do i think that men (and women, for that is where I disagree with the OP. I feel women are just as sexual as men) but nor am I unobservant or naive to the fact that a great majority are curious to some extent (be it to kiss, fondle or fuck) another man. Whether or not they ever act upon these feelings is irrelevant (as much as if a gay man never has sex with another man: that person is still gay)

I also pointed out that the polar opposite side f the spectrum can be the same. Gay men (and women) who find themselves attracted to and have possible relations with. members of the opposite sex. I am one of them. I always felt I was 100% gay. But then, this past year, i have found myself attracted to a handful of females. Some I would consider having full on intercourse with. Others its more of an emotional connect, and a few it would be light foreplay type stuff or limited sexual contact only with a guy there (the gay equivalent of the straight man's conundrum regarding MFM, except it would be a MMF, lol)

DO I think of myself as bi? No. I am not attracted to the vast majority of women. Indeed my attraction to the few varies in intensity. Would I say I was bi curious? Yeah. It fits. Just as gys who are straight, can be attracted in some ways to other dudes. There out there, and they are more numerous then a lot of folk would care to admit.

I thin we are in agreement.I have nada more to add... I just wanted to quote you! lol
What an excellent post.
 

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And you purporting the bolded part over and over again (and not just on this thread) does "what" exactly for "who"? :confused:

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Secondly, If liking women only makes you straight, and being bi means you like both men and women... then what do the labels even matter? Both of those type of people still like women.

The only reason to "point out" that one of them likes something additional that you do not, implies that liking the additional thing is bad somehow. I.e., it's something that you don't want to be associated with so you have to point out that "you" don't like it.

Well your obviously misreading what i'm saying.
 

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I see what you are saying.

In your opinion, is the part I bolded because people are programmed that way or is that out of societal pressures?


It's how people are hard wired, IMO. Yes, sexuality exists on a continuum in some respects, but I think it's more black and white than many people care to admit.

Yes. There ARE 100% straight people in the world, and yes, there are 100% gay people in the world. And I'm talking really straight, not "Str8" or Str8, but will have sex with men.

People do experiment, but that experimentation is not the be all end all of their sexuality. Several months back, Thomas Jane, the actor talked about his time when he first came to LA, and he worked as a hustler. He stated that his time working as a male prostitute, having sex with me, solidified for him that he is, in fact, 100% straight, and that he does not like men sexually.

And no, being gay, bi, or pansexual is nothing abnormal, nothing dirty, nothing wrong. It is what it is, and there are many different flavors and colors to sexuality. It's all about being aware of what you like, and not being afraid to enjoy it.
 

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Look, I never said that men can't be straight, I just said that unlike society says that men are the most likely to be be, just that they hide it more. Of course many women are truly bi and men re heterosexual as well.
 

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*post three thousand times on a website dedicated to huge cocks*

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*Angrily professes straightness*

Sweet, I'm getting trolled by Boole! Here I thought you had to have a vagina for him to get all butthurt at you!

but He's supper straight and doesn't have a bi bone in hos body... 

Being bi or at least curious manifests on the other end of the spectrum as well, self identified gay guys, who will give women or one particular woman a go.

All normal 

Why is the idea that I'm actually a completely straight man "rofl"-worthy?

What's interesting is how aggressively defensive some people get with regards to this issue. And if you think this is the first thread where bisexual or gay men have said most or all men are bisexual or that straight men are in denial, then again, I point to my old blog post, which points to a thread on that exact topic. It's been gone over here numerous times.

Ummm. OK Alpha can speak for himself, but in the meantime...

I don't think EVERY guy is secretly gay, or wants to fuck another guy. Not in the least. The OP was about most (most, not all) men being bi or bi curious. I acknowledge that there are 100% purely straight men (and women) who would never wish to have sexual relations of any kind form a member of the same sex, would derive zero pleasure form one, and are not romantically attracted to them. The same goes for 100% Gay individuals.

Yes APRROX 10% (based on a survey done with specific questions at a time when homosexuality was a greater deal then today, and people would be more hesitant to tell the truth even in an anonymous survey..but i beg to differ) but the same study placed about 70% on some range of the grey bi area, right? SO saying that most men (and I think 70% would qualify as most being over 50%) is a fair enough comment. No need to get all bent out of shape about it.

Who got bent out of shape? It seems like Alpha and maybe you, actually. I certainly wasn't.

And no, I'm not quoting some study that had "70%" of the male population as bisexual. There are numerous resources that estimate these things based on surveys, censuses, and so forth, and generally they (meaning men who are bisexual or homosexual) amount to 10% or less of the population.

Now, before you go throwing some "study" that says otherwise at me, I'm just going to tell you to do some honest Googling of it. And if you're going to resort to Kinsey, I'm going to warn you that his studies were biased in the first place in addition to making assumptions about sexuality that weren't adequately tested in advance. You can research all that yourself. Sufficed to say I have looked into it before and his work is of questionable quality (although people love to take it out when trying to make points like "most people are bisexual" as if tons of other work on the issue hasn't been done).

YES, there are 100% hetero and 100% homo and 100% bi who never vary. And then there is the rest. The ones who may, for a certain individual, for x time or encounter or forever, ill date someone OUTSIDE there self proclaimed sexual orientation. They usually get flack for the people of there "old" orientation for it. We are not even talking full out intercourse. Oral, manual stim, all count as well. Or the ones who are emotionally bonded to a person of the same sex (if they are straight) and truly love them but sexually are not there (and there is no internal conflict, it's just how they are)

I, as a gay an, do not think all straight men are really in denial and are just aching to get there bi on. Nope. But do i think that men (and women, for that is where I disagree with the OP. I feel women are just as sexual as men) but nor am I unobservant or naive to the fact that a great majority are curious to some extent (be it to kiss, fondle or fuck) another man. Whether or not they ever act upon these feelings is irrelevant (as much as if a gay man never has sex with another man: that person is still gay)
Where's the proof? You're making a pretty huge assumption and passing it off as fact. You assume that because you've had a few times where you were attracted to women that this means most straight men must have had the same feeling the other way? That's not evidence.

I also pointed out that the polar opposite side f the spectrum can be the same. Gay men (and women) who find themselves attracted to and have possible relations with. members of the opposite sex. I am one of them. I always felt I was 100% gay. But then, this past year, i have found myself attracted to a handful of females. Some I would consider having full on intercourse with. Others its more of an emotional connect, and a few it would be light foreplay type stuff or limited sexual contact only with a guy there (the gay equivalent of the straight man's conundrum regarding MFM, except it would be a MMF, lol)

DO I think of myself as bi? No. I am not attracted to the vast majority of women. Indeed my attraction to the few varies in intensity. Would I say I was bi curious? Yeah. It fits. Just as gys who are straight, can be attracted in some ways to other dudes. There out there, and they are more numerous then a lot of folk would care to admit.

I thin we are in agreement.I have nada more to add... I just wanted to quote you! lol
I don't think we're in agreement about the prevalence of bisexuality in the male population. I've seen no evidence of bisexuality being that common. If bisexuality were so common, why are there so few self-defined bisexual males?

I said people who think most men are bisexual are living in their own little world because they seem to believe, as you do, something that's inconsistent with reality. I'm sorry if that offends you. But having seen this same thread numerous times, it does get tiresome to have to defend my sexuality yet again to intolerant gay and bisexual men.

Yeah, hate to break it to you both... but you are the ones living in your own world.

And no one said anything about gay guys thinking all other guys are secretly attracted to other guys, we're talking about bi ... which basically means there are guys out there that can fuck your girl better than you can AND still have fun with a guy. Straight & Gay simultaneously.
I said 10% of the population is gay to be generous, suggesting perhaps an additional greater proportion is bisexual or gay. I never said what percent were bisexual. The actual numbers are more like gays plus bisexuals combined is less than ten percent. But again, I was trying to be generous.

You're trying to downplay being bi by just calling it being gay. As if the interest in mainly in men and slightly in women.
No I'm not. As I said above, I was talking about gays when I said that, not bisexuals.

I know in your, "I'm a demigod of this world because I haven't been plagued by the homosexuality virus!" heads that you will never understand that. But I will leave you to have your conversations about how you are the chosen pro creators of the human race because of how "straight" you are amongst each other. 
Fuck off.

For a self-proclaimed "Alpha", you sure a whiny bitch.

See? Anyone can run his mouth. It's not hard, and it sure as shit isn't meaningful.

If you want to play in the big boy pool, bring some actual points to discuss instead of just ad hominem page vomit. In the future, I won't grace tripe of this ilk with a response.

I agree that there can be people very close to 99% one way or the other. I don't think people are 100% of anything when it comes down to it though, including sexuality.

If we could really see into a person's thoughts, I'm sure there could be some manifestation of a man or woman that that person would honestly say, "Yeah, I'd consider doing something slightly sexual with that person..."

I think anyone who just outright says (like the couple people I quoted above), "I would absolutely never ever do anything at all with someone of the same sex!" is just fooling themselves. How can that honestly be said when you can't possibly have come across everyone that you are going to meet in your lifetime yet? It's like being able to predict the future. Not going to happen.
That's just as intolerant as straight men who say homosexuality is a disease, which you rather hilariously tried to use as an attack on myself and another straight man here. Congratulations on being just as bigoted as all those gay-hating morons out there, champ.
 
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Fuck off.

For a self-proclaimed "Alpha", you sure a whiny bitch.

See? Anyone can run his mouth. It's not hard, and it sure as shit isn't meaningful.

If you want to play in the big boy pool, bring some actual points to discuss instead of just ad hominem page vomit. In the future, I won't grace tripe of this ilk with a response.

I'm whining by calling you out about having an uppity, entitled attitude because you're straight? Bitch please. Because...

"I'm a demigod of this world because I haven't been plagued by the homosexuality virus!" heads ... will never understand that. But I will leave you to have your conversations about how you are the chosen pro creators of the human race because of how "straight" you are amongst each other." ...is EXACTLY how you act.

Don't be mad because that statement owns you hardcore (notice how that statement just pissed you off and you couldn't reply to it directly). A simple, "I don't act that way," would have sufficed... but you obviously know that you do act that way so it's offensive to you.

You're VynilBoy 2.0. Go ahead and post up another novel that no one will read. Just how many threads are you doing that on currently anyway? :cool:
 
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