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I don't know. I checked the website and his name was no longer on it but other than that, I'm just don't know.

I haven't been back to another dinner even though I'd like to go - if it weren't for the possibility of running into his wife our one of his friends or him. This wasn't a church event but one it hosts for a social club here, and because of that guy, I don't think I want to go to any more because I don't want to deal with any of the fallout.
 

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this, same as me not going for nights out anymore.
it changes our behaviour. sometimes in big ways, sometimes it's more subtle. it's far more than just a hand on the arse to us.
 

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this, same as me not going for nights out anymore.
it changes our behaviour. sometimes in big ways, sometimes it's more subtle. it's far more than just a hand on the arse to us.

Well if you change your mind about going out, this is the hotel I normally stay at when visiting London and I usually have a cocktail here... Mayfair Cocktail Bars | The Connaught Bar | the Connaught, London
I always have a lovely time and have never encountered any problems. I know it's not a club but if you would like I'll be in touch on my next trip.
 

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I was going to post that for many of the reasons people have mentioned, I no longer go to clubs. Instead, I go to nice places where people dress up in suits and dresses, because in my experience people behave better when they are well dressed.

But then Petite posted her story about it happening to her in church, for God's sake. So that shoots my theory down.
 

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Thanks for the articles and Petite, thanks for sharing. I think you're encounter happens more often to women than people realize. I don't go to clubs. I don't go to packed bars. I am very cautious, but then again, I've learned to be. But at a church?? I dreaded reading your story because I knew the further along I went the more the reaction to your talk with the priest would be what you said....doubting you, questioning your behavior....all of that.

I think the articles really say it all, don't they? Some men might think this is hitting on a woman, they might actually think it's funny and they're flattering her, but in reality, our bodies are not there for anyone to simply touch if and when they want to. It really is as simple as that. My personal space is mine and it's not open to being touched by anyone else. How hard is that to understand? *sigh*

I've also not encountered grabbing as much in the nicer pubs, restaurants, and social clubs with my friends. Not that it isn't there. The church atmosphere simply proves that some people believe they are unstoppable, because, really, what are you going to do? Like you said, scream?

Very sad that this happened to you, Petite.
 

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I agree with NudeYorker about frequenting nicer establishments. There is no guarantee they will be asshole proof but there are considerably less assholes when they have to pay a higher fee for the bouncer to escort them out for being an asshole.. ;)
 

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i've experienced the opposite. in punk/dive music venues there hasn't been an issue with groping/disrespect. shmancy clubs... the more someone pays to be there, the more they feel entitled to get what they want.

with one exception.. college bars. yeah... avoid at all costs *shudder*


why is the computer randomly deleted huge chunks of text? and going back a page *did it again.. not retyping* for no damn reason. :grumpy: third time today.
 
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i've experienced the opposite. in punk/dive music venues there hasn't been an issue with groping/disrespect. shmancy clubs... the more someone pays to be there, the more they feel entitled to get what they want.

with one exception.. college bars. yeah... avoid at all costs *shudder*


why is the computer randomly deleted huge chunks of text? and going back a page *did it again.. not retyping* for no damn reason. :grumpy: third time today.

Probably has something to do with your locale and sometimes people are more respectful in environments where they know people are being entirely themselves without fear of what others thing, which means they might be more likely to kick your ass if you piss them off.

Sorry about the text deletions. Nothing pisses me off more than that so I constantly high light and copy my text every few paragraphs because LPSG is the worst with that!
 

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i've experienced the opposite. in punk/dive music venues there hasn't been an issue with groping/disrespect. shmancy clubs... the more someone pays to be there, the more they feel entitled to get what they want.

with one exception.. college bars. yeah... avoid at all costs *shudder*


why is the computer randomly deleted huge chunks of text? and going back a page *did it again.. not retyping* for no damn reason. :grumpy: third time today.

It's hard to grope in a mosh pit.:biggrin1:
 

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strippers do not enjoy that shit either.
that's why they have bouncers.

Strippers would not make any tips if they didn't have bouncers that projected their pulchritude and hung to their waist.

BJ :eek: