ignore it. it's just fishing for a response.How would you know?
ignore it. it's just fishing for a response.How would you know?
he's well acquainted with bullshit?
Coconutz is a farmer! How lovely... :smile:
How would you know?
Yeah, he grows little sparks that grow into gibantic flamewars. Shame is, he's had limited success. He's only grown a couple that haven't been stomped out.
most guys just don't seem to realise how high the numbers of victims are and how often we get this sort of thing. i just don't go dancing anymore because it's impossible to enjoy myself when i have to keep fending off creeps.
and most of the perps seem like perfectly normal, decent guys to those around them. a few drinks, or reason to resent a woman, and they're different people.
it always gets worse as the night goes on. and, yes, booze is to blame for much of it.When I was 18 and worked part-time in bars I could literally watch the decline in people's behaviour the more alcohol was consumed. I did witness aggressive behaviour by women towards men, though nowhere near as frequently as the other way around.
We had to have security at the actual bars with us rather than just on the doors due to the man-handling when we had to collect glasses. It was... bad. That being said we are notoriously uanble to moderate our drinking in this country.
i'm not even tiny. 5'7''. but if a built 6 footer starts dragging me, there's not much chance of me managing to stand my ground. and, even though it's a public place, the fact that often nobody around you seems to notice or care makes it quite frightening, even if it's only for a few seconds.I used to go to bars all the time. Haven't been in years. One of the last times I went was with a few friends to see an 80's cover band. Great show, but as we're standing there, this guy comes up and starts to try to drag our friend out onto the dance floor. I wasn't paying attention at first, but then I realized she didn't want to go at all, and he was literally dragging her off. She's tiny, maybe 5' even and a hundred pounds if that, and she didn't have the mass to resist him. I'm 6'4" and I weigh a bit more than a hundred pounds. Once I realized what was going on, I reached over, put my hand around her arm and shook my head "no" at the dude. I guess it was fairly convincing as he instantly removed his hands and melted away into the crowd. Part of the reason I don't go to bars anymore.
I used to go to bars all the time. Haven't been in years. One of the last times I went was with a few friends to see an 80's cover band. Great show, but as we're standing there, this guy comes up and starts to try to drag our friend out onto the dance floor. I wasn't paying attention at first, but then I realized she didn't want to go at all, and he was literally dragging her off. She's tiny, maybe 5' even and a hundred pounds if that, and she didn't have the mass to resist him. I'm 6'4" and I weigh a bit more than a hundred pounds. Once I realized what was going on, I reached over, put my hand around her arm and shook my head "no" at the dude. I guess it was fairly convincing as he instantly removed his hands and melted away into the crowd. Part of the reason I don't go to bars anymore.
yup. and another says he just goes & grinds up against women's arses uninvited. they advocate using those techniques on the basis that it works with some, but they're assault.I used to go to bars all the time, too. It's just not my thing anymore so I'm not really familiar with what you guys are talking about. But in looking at another thread here about dancing at clubs, another poster recommends grabbing girls by the hand and dragging them off:
http://www.lpsg.org/293432-dancing-in-the-clubs.html#post4026504
yup. and another says he just goes & grinds up against women's arses uninvited. they advocate using those techniques on the basis that it works with some, but they're assault.
Hand_Solo: Thug for hire.
I take Visa and MasterCard too, but not American Express.