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How would you know?

What she posted is a lie and you know it. I've been to clubs with my wife years ago and there was no grabbing. Sure, people did hit on her, but that was no reason to stop going out.
The fact that dolfette included in her post "perps/decent guys reason to resent a woman" should give you an idea of her motives. She is a liar.
 

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most guys just don't seem to realise how high the numbers of victims are and how often we get this sort of thing. i just don't go dancing anymore because it's impossible to enjoy myself when i have to keep fending off creeps.

and most of the perps seem like perfectly normal, decent guys to those around them. a few drinks, or reason to resent a woman, and they're different people.

When I was 18 and worked part-time in bars I could literally watch the decline in people's behaviour the more alcohol was consumed. I did witness aggressive behaviour by women towards men, though nowhere near as frequently as the other way around.

We had to have security at the actual bars with us rather than just on the doors due to the man-handling when we had to collect glasses. It was... bad. That being said we are notoriously uanble to moderate our drinking in this country.
 

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I used to go to bars all the time. Haven't been in years. One of the last times I went was with a few friends to see an 80's cover band. Great show, but as we're standing there, this guy comes up and starts to try to drag our friend out onto the dance floor. I wasn't paying attention at first, but then I realized she didn't want to go at all, and he was literally dragging her off. She's tiny, maybe 5' even and a hundred pounds if that, and she didn't have the mass to resist him. I'm 6'4" and I weigh a bit more than a hundred pounds. Once I realized what was going on, I reached over, put my hand around her arm and shook my head "no" at the dude. I guess it was fairly convincing as he instantly removed his hands and melted away into the crowd. Part of the reason I don't go to bars anymore.
 

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When I was 18 and worked part-time in bars I could literally watch the decline in people's behaviour the more alcohol was consumed. I did witness aggressive behaviour by women towards men, though nowhere near as frequently as the other way around.

We had to have security at the actual bars with us rather than just on the doors due to the man-handling when we had to collect glasses. It was... bad. That being said we are notoriously uanble to moderate our drinking in this country.
it always gets worse as the night goes on. and, yes, booze is to blame for much of it.
i feel sure that some of those drunken letches would be mortified afterwards if they saw themselves like that on film. booze does strange things to a person's perceptions and sets free some of the baser impulses we repress whilst sober.
I used to go to bars all the time. Haven't been in years. One of the last times I went was with a few friends to see an 80's cover band. Great show, but as we're standing there, this guy comes up and starts to try to drag our friend out onto the dance floor. I wasn't paying attention at first, but then I realized she didn't want to go at all, and he was literally dragging her off. She's tiny, maybe 5' even and a hundred pounds if that, and she didn't have the mass to resist him. I'm 6'4" and I weigh a bit more than a hundred pounds. Once I realized what was going on, I reached over, put my hand around her arm and shook my head "no" at the dude. I guess it was fairly convincing as he instantly removed his hands and melted away into the crowd. Part of the reason I don't go to bars anymore.
i'm not even tiny. 5'7''. but if a built 6 footer starts dragging me, there's not much chance of me managing to stand my ground. and, even though it's a public place, the fact that often nobody around you seems to notice or care makes it quite frightening, even if it's only for a few seconds.
 

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I used to go to bars all the time. Haven't been in years. One of the last times I went was with a few friends to see an 80's cover band. Great show, but as we're standing there, this guy comes up and starts to try to drag our friend out onto the dance floor. I wasn't paying attention at first, but then I realized she didn't want to go at all, and he was literally dragging her off. She's tiny, maybe 5' even and a hundred pounds if that, and she didn't have the mass to resist him. I'm 6'4" and I weigh a bit more than a hundred pounds. Once I realized what was going on, I reached over, put my hand around her arm and shook my head "no" at the dude. I guess it was fairly convincing as he instantly removed his hands and melted away into the crowd. Part of the reason I don't go to bars anymore.

I used to go to bars all the time, too. It's just not my thing anymore so I'm not really familiar with what you guys are talking about. But in looking at another thread here about dancing at clubs, another poster recommends grabbing girls by the hand and dragging them off:

http://www.lpsg.org/293432-dancing-in-the-clubs.html#post4026504

I'm really glad you were there for your friend, Mr. Solo. Seriously. I'd be so creeped out. I'd like to think I could take care of myself, but what if I couldn't? Ick.

PS. Can I call you if I need a personal body guard too? I mean, I did save you in the wilderness! (with my own body heat, no less :wink:)
 

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I used to go to bars all the time, too. It's just not my thing anymore so I'm not really familiar with what you guys are talking about. But in looking at another thread here about dancing at clubs, another poster recommends grabbing girls by the hand and dragging them off:

http://www.lpsg.org/293432-dancing-in-the-clubs.html#post4026504
yup. and another says he just goes & grinds up against women's arses uninvited. they advocate using those techniques on the basis that it works with some, but they're assault.
 

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yup. and another says he just goes & grinds up against women's arses uninvited. they advocate using those techniques on the basis that it works with some, but they're assault.

When did flirting and assault become synonymous?

Hand_Solo: Thug for hire.

*checks purse, under couch cushions for change to hire thug*