Kind of an echo chamber honestly. I agree the asian guy seemed a lot more willing to learn and grow through this discussion than frankly, anybody else there.
First off to call oneself a "men's rights activist" implies a certain amount of ignorance that in of itself makes it hard to respect that person...and as demonstrated by specifically the "incel" there is bitterness, and an entitled attitude that should be a turn off to anyone.
But the feminists are not faultless here, yet again this refusal to admit or even venture that perhaps it is the interactions with women that motivate a lot of this masculine toxicity...its easy to say emotional vulnerability and the like aren't necessarily perceived as weak, but not as easy to delve into why perhaps such vulnerability isn't attractive to women until a long term relationship has already been established, or when it exists in the realm of the hypothetical.
This is one of those discussions I believe will go round and round until we all admit to our collective hominid capacity for selfishness, and privilege seeking.