Merry Christmas, unless you're gay.

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  1. Drifterwood

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    Speaking on Monday, Pope Benedict said that saving humanity from homosexual or transsexual behaviour was as important as protecting the environment.

    BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Gay groups angry at Pope remarks

    A few years ago, this would have had me ranting from the rooftops. Today, I find it rather sad, and ironically, more harmful to christianity. Personally, it drives me further away from organised religion, which is a bit of a shame at Christmas. Hey ho ho ho.
     
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    It is sad and harmful to christianity. I gave up on an organised religion a few years back. No place would accept me unless I agreed to go threw there "Lets make you right" group. I belive what I belive and thats all that matters. Not what they say is right and wrong. I get alot of shit for saying that and this but how do we know that the bibal has not been fudged to satisfy the feelings of the ones befor us? And I'm sorry for my very crappy spelling and all that good shit people.
     
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    Maybe if he addressed getting Pedophile priests out of the churches and not getting involved with what consenting adults do behind closed doors would be a nice start for them. Sadly I feel neither will happen in my lifetime.
     
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    The Catholic denomination is a huge stain on Christianity.. not saying there the only ones.. but one of the big guys. Gives normal loving christians like myself a bad rap.
     
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    thats another thing, this whole idea of celibacy? how is that even possible.. even the bible preaches against that. Everyone knows the real reason behind the catholic church and priests not getting married all comes down to money.. how sad.

    1 Corinthians 7:2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband.

    1 Timothy 3:1 This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a bishop, he desires a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; 3 not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous; 4 one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence 5 (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?); 6 not a novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
     
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    I don't care what flavour of Christianity we're addressing, there's absolutely nothing "Christian" about hatred and bigotry. It's dumbfounding that people that thump on the Bible the hardest, and hide behind its words as their defense, don't seem to remember the outcasts that Christ himself embraced. That it comes from the Pope, is just that much more staggering. He should know better.
     
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    Pope Benedict is a disgrace to a church that had previously elected the likes of John Paul II. While I did not remotely support all of John Paul's policies, I think he was a force of good in the world. I recognize that change comes slowly to the catholic church (see re: Galileo above), but I see Benedict as a Luddite with no more sense of compassion or understanding than a stone.
     
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    Gay people were around long before Xtianity, and we will still be around after it has died out.

    Benedetto has been a disappointment, but not a surprise. No pope in my lifetime has put his foot in his mouth so frequently.
     
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    amen :smile:
     
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    That's exactly my problem with Benny. JP II had his issues too, but he was mildly progressive, or at least, seemed to have a better connection to the modern world. And that's the thing. It's not like JP II was some radical, where Benny needed to step in and "correct" things. This guy is just so ridiculously out of touch, and missing out on such an opportunity. He could be reaching out, and really pulling people in, not really making any great changes, but by just having a more humanistic and understanding approach. Instead, he's gone the other direction, which isn't even "Christian". Fire and brimstone is G-d of the Old Testament. That's the whole difference, and beautiful change that occurs, with the New Testament. G-d becomes the loving Father, and Christ is the embodiment of understanding, and all-embracing compassion. Yo, Benny, where's the compassion???
     
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    LOL, he didn't make the muslims any happier either.
     
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    And particularly so when they had such other stellar candidates who are progressive and modern. The Rat had always been a theological dogmatic. It was no secret when he was elected that he would be rolling back reforms so his election was exactly what the cardinals wanted. I think it's sad.
     
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    huh?? what?
     
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    :yup: That is so true,

    Does anything Christians do make the radical Muslims happy? :confused: Not for nothing but it's not like that is our sole purpose.
     
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    DOn't we love the pope :rolleyes:

    Just a way to get attention... funny
     
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    Once again religion breaking its own rule of "thall shall not judge"
     
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    Ahhh, the Popez, gotta lovez them.
     
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