Michele morrone (italian actor)
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If it’s leaning on stereotypes when it comes to public figures then it should be viewed as leaning on stereotypes when it comes to “real life.” Choosing to pick when stereotypes matter is kinda hypocritical. And while a lot of those stereotypes are outdated, they do exist for a reason. The majority of men who give stereotypical queer are rarely conventionally heterosexual and entirely hetero and “gender normal” when it comes to the gender, sexual, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum.
The real problem is that many folks are obsessed with these celebs’ “sexualities” in general. It’s really none of our business unless they make it our business (which many do and then whine later). We also need to accept that just like in “real life” these people don’t owe randoms an explanation or an identity. And there’s still a surprising amount of ignorance among “queers” when it comes to stereotypes, the dimensions of “sexuality” and sexual journey, the different internal and external struggles and traumas people face, and the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum. We also put too much weight on “sexuality” when queerness, psychology, love, relationships, being a human being, are much more than that.
I would never advise people to act dumb and to not pick up things about other people through their own experience. That’s just sociology and human nature. And we always need to talk about prejudice, insecurities, internalized phobias, hetero pressures, hetero superiority, toxic masculinity, because these things are still prominent. But I would also advise respect, the understanding that folks don’t owe them and to stop being obsessed with these public figures in general.
This is not the same thing at all. In real life you can notice a guy having a lingering gaze while looking at you. Or making prolonged eye contact. Or even just noticing someone checking out another guy. Those are the cues I'm referring to. You totally twisted what I said.
I never said stereotypes in real life are more valid. My point was "gaydar" is a stupid concept. Especially over the Internet where you only have access to a limited view of said celebrity.
Yeah I don't disagree. Wasn't suggesting stereotypes are even necessarily bad. Just that they are what they are. It's not some magic gay code like some clowns on here like to suggest.
Agreed. It's bordering on obsession and it's taken to bizarre levels on here.
Yeah I agree with all that
I think you guys don't understand how guys who speak romantic languages behave.... Italians, Brazilians, Colombians all have a similar vibe that messes with your "gaydar".
or... maybe gaydar is a totally ridiculous concept? lol
It's really a stupid concept if it's based on stereotypes... I don't believe in "gaydar" but as a bisexual man I often recognize someone else during a conversation with me, and I've never been wrong. I'm Brazilian, I have straight American friends judging my straight Brazilian friends because they don't understand our energy, that's why I said that about romantic language speakers, there's kind of a pattern...
What you described is mostly valid but That isn't the same thing as gaydar imho. Reading visual and verbal cues IRL is just that to me. Not "gaydar". Gaydar = just stereotypes, as far as I can tell.
I am also bisexual and while I have been able to "pick out" some queer guys in real life there have been plenty of other closeted guys I've met no one would ever suspect liked dick. lol
As a gay man you’re right but also not right. 9 times out of 10 I can just tell. I can’t explain it but there is something there. Is it 100% accurate, no, but gotta be honest it’s damn close. However, anecdotally, my straight friends who say they have gaydar are almost always wrong. It’s just something I noticed. Not scientific but just from my experience. For what it’s worth, Michelle (to me) doesn’t not give off a gay vibe at all. European men don’t suffer from the toxic masculinity that US men do. So they are more affectionate with other men. Just speaking from experience
I'm not discounting your experience or "abilities" btw
. I just don't like when people suggest it's super reliable or even always accurate. It's not. It's often just based on stereotypes (that are culturally formed) That's the only thing I take issue with.I wouldn't entirely agree with that. Euro guys are just as capable of toxic masculinity and machismo as well. It varies by country (or by city). Europe is a big place.
Any guy who is more traditional or conservative is gonna display those traits regardless of what country/continent he's from imho. Guys like Michele are usually just more on the progressive view of things hence they don't have as many insecurities around sexuality/masculinity.
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Yes its almost always based on stereotype which tend to be inaccurate.I'm not discounting your experience or "abilities" btw
I wouldn't entirely agree with that. Euro guys are just as capable of toxic masculinity and machismo as well. It varies by country (or by city). Europe is a big place.
Any guy who is more traditional or conservative is gonna display those traits regardless of what country/continent he's from imho. Guys like Michele are usually just more on the progressive view of things hence they don't have as many insecurities around sexuality/masculinity.
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