Michelle Bachman Lies!

[SilverTrain]

Of much more interest and concern than the fact of her lying:

1. Based on mounting evidence, Bachmann is power-seeking to a degree that's astounding even in comparison to her "peers". E.g., she has clear designs on the Oval Office despite her being the only person in the world who would consider her qualified for such.

2. She's willing to say or do anything to advance her pursuit of power. See, e.g., every available piece of archived television footage of her.

3. She's a cyborg, so things like conscience, ethics, morality*, play no part in and have no effect on her existence and her goals. She seeks only her own ultimate victoriousness, all other considerations being subservient to that Prime Directive. [In the biopic to be released after the dust settles on her Swath of Destruction, she will be played by Rhona Mitra, much to the delight of everyone (Don't you just love Hollywood casting directors?).]

Seriously.


* Despite the creationist rhetoric, et., al., she appears to fear no god.

 

[B_OtterJoq]

Lovin the point and i highly agree....when this county becomes a socialist nation the dems are gonna be missin capitalism real quick...I sometimes wonder if most Dems know what they stand or vote for

No facts, just more gas.

 

[B_OtterJoq]

Bachmann clearly has other qualities which more than compensate for the odd factual slip up.

Oh my dear God...THAT'S FUNNY!

Care to enumerate the many wonderful qualities possessed by the Madwoman of Stillwater?

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Oh my dear God...THAT'S FUNNY!

Care to enumerate the many wonderful qualities possessed by the Madwoman of Stillwater?

She's a MILF... don't you know that as long as she's pretty and looks fuckable to the average Joe, she'll always have a stage in right-winged politics? :biggrin:

 

[deleted244310]

Bachmann makes me so proud to be a Minnesota resident! NOT. Thank God I don't live in her district...

 

[jaxmuffdiver]

If this country is so bad, evil, wrong, misguided, dishonest, and unworthy of your trust...then leave. Stop complaining about something you cannot change, like the past, and leave. Its not about political partys. Its not about color. Its not about slavery. All of that is in the past and NO ONE can change any part of it. The democrats cry about how everyone has suffered due to the white man. The republicans scream about if not for the white man, there would be no America. At the end of the day, does any of that shit matter? You are on a adult website for cocks and people who love them...not some crazy ass radio show or Fox news!! I come on here to have a good time, not this bullshit!

 

[B_VinylBoy]

If this country is so bad, evil, wrong, misguided, dishonest, and unworthy of your trust...then leave. Stop complaining about something you cannot change, like the past, and leave. Its not about political partys. Its not about color. Its not about slavery. All of that is in the past and NO ONE can change any part of it. The democrats cry about how everyone has suffered due to the white man. The republicans scream about if not for the white man, there would be no America. At the end of the day, does any of that shit matter? You are on a adult website for cocks and people who love them...not some crazy ass radio show or Fox news!! I come on here to have a good time, not this bullshit!

Sorry... you were on a roll until you typed this. The victimization of the white man in this country is only happening in the minds of those who feel like victims. We as a nation will not learn or progress forward if we selectively forget certain points in history. Referencing the past is not be a means to oppress or to extend guilt, but a means for us to remember our past mistakes, LEARN FROM THEM, and hopefully not repeat them.

Also, have you not realized that most political discussions do not happen outside of the Politics section? If you don't want to read this stuff, then why are you here instead of Celebrity Endowments or the Show Off section? You came here on your own, so don't complain if you don't like what you see.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

michelle bachman is a circus clown with no grasp of reality. what a sad case of someone who got way past fifteen minutes of fame and ran out of material.

I don't understand how someone who gives every indication of literally having a mental disorder is just left to roam the halls of Congress and keep reminding everyone what craziness looks like. They should at least get her some counseling and medication to help deal with the delusions.

 

[Speculator]

Oh my dear God...THAT'S FUNNY!

Care to enumerate the many wonderful qualities possessed by the Madwoman of Stillwater?

She leaves Vinylboy foaming at the mouth?

That quality alone tells me she's doing something right.

 

[FRE]

I believe that the stimulus packages prevented a deflationary spiral and the dire consequences which would have accompanied it. However, I disagree that there is proof; there is no proof. There are problems with economics; there are entirely too many variables to make it possible to arrive at certain conclusions. There are some principals on which there is general agreement, but the many unquantifiable variables make it difficult to arrive at firm conclusions. I say that even though I have the equivalent of a minor in economics.

Sometimes we have to make decisions when total proof is lacking; that is often the case with economics. There are those who assert that the stimulus packages failed; they cannot prove that. It is more likely that we’d be far worse of if the stimulus packages had not been implemented. So, when people insist that the stimulus packages failed, a good response would be to ask them to prove that we wouldn’t be worse off without them. At the same time, we should be willing to admit that we cannot prove that the stimulus packages worked, but we should also state why we believe that they did. Unfortunately, those who have not studied economics are unlikely to understand.

The stimulus packages did leave much to be desired. They unfortunately rewarded the financial institutions and executives whose irresponsible behavior caused the economic problems because Obama caved as the result of pressure exerted by those financial institutions. Probably the irresponsible financial institutions should have been permitted to fail and the federal government should have taken action to mitigate the effects to the economy. Moreover, if a financial institution is too big to fail it is, as others have also pointed out, too big and should be broken up using the provisions of existing anti-trust legislation.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

She leaves Vinylboy foaming at the mouth? That quality alone tells me she's doing something right.

You know, it's so great to know that the politically & socially vacuous who are on a forum wide crusade to label me as "an intolerant, bitter, angry black man with no life, who's also a socialist, a leech on the government, an anti-heterosexual, and an enemy to white people" just can't stop thinking about me.

Bachmann doesn't make me angry or "foam at the mouth". No politician has the power or ability to make me do that. Not even Bush could do it. You will never have to worry about me resorting to "Second Amendment Remedies" or "reloading" if she says or does something stupid in Congress. I know how to get by and take care of my needs regardless of who is in office. Bachmann does what she has to do to keep people like you motivated and involved in the political process. She tells you exactly what you want to hear, regardless if it's true or not, and it excites you. She intentionally omits intimate details that paint a more accurate picture as to what's going on in our nation, and it's up to people to fact check and put her words into some kind of realistic perspective. What I do get pissed off at is ideologically blinded people, such as yourself, who buy every line of tripe she says and then uses excuses such as someone being a "liberal" or being "gay" as the reason why everything is wrong with our country. I can honestly say that I watched every single minute of the three speeches from Obama, Ryan and Bachmann last night, despite my ideologies. Did you? I can find some level of factualness in everyone's speeches last night, despite several comments made by Ryan and Bachmann not being completely accurate. Could you? I could even find places where Obama could have elaborated more, despite giving a great speech. I would ask you your thoughts here, however, I don't want to set it up for you to put a foot in your mouth again.

Everyone knows we detest one another and we don't need another thread to demonstrate this. Your thoughts and beliefs about me do not matter. THIS is about Bachmann... defend her or critique her like everyone else does. Bring more facts to the table and less fallacious garbage about what you think I am.

The ball is now in your court, if you dare to actually stay on topic.

 

[B_OtterJoq]

She leaves Vinylboy foaming at the mouth?

That quality alone tells me she's doing something right.

Interesting.

That seems to be the rationale-du-jour for Right Wing Teabagger morons like Palin and Bachmann: "She angers all the right people."

That's it? That's why you support people like that?

Of course it is. I asked for you to name the good qualities you see in her, and you couldn't. Instead, you replied in the manner of a 13 year old.

I win.

 

[tgirlsrgreat]

Lies? I don't think so. She's merely presenting a version of history that you disagree with because it hasn't been told from the point of view of a victim.

It's like saying somebody is lying when they focus on the history of U.S slavery because they're not simultaneously mentioning the opportunites (and freedoms) that opened up in the New World.

If Bachman had claimed slavery was non-existent then you'd have a point, but until she does that you'll have to continue to slur her with your feeble propaganda.

never let the truth get in the way of a good misrepresentation, eh?

 

[B_OtterJoq]

The ball is now in your court, if you dare to actually stay on topic.

Impossible. Speculum's arsenal is empty. His response to my post makes that obvious.

 

[FRE]

Regarding Bachmann, I had not previously realized that she had the academic credentials that she has, although because of the source of the credentials, I question their value. So, it may be that she does know that she was intentionally lying in which case she was insulting the intelligence of the American people.

I had not previously known that she is a Mormon. I've read the Book of Mormon and concluded that it is practically 100% fiction. If it were true, there would be considerable archeological evidence, but there isn't a shred of archeological evidence. When Mormon missionaries are questioned about specific details in the book, all they can say is, "I believe the Book of Mormon;" their church has not prepared them to deal with the obvious questions.

One of the things about the Mormon Church that disturbs me is that Mormons are not permitted to disagree with any Mormon doctrines. Rather, they are expected to follow Mormon beliefs in lock-step which is very different from the way my church operates; we are expected and encouraged to think and discuss. If they have doubts, they are afraid to express them because doing so would put them at risk of being excommunicated, rejected by their families, and losing the tightly knit social system on which they have become highly dependent.

Probably there aren't enough Mormons to be dangerous, but we should, to the extent possible, see to it that they are exposed to other ideas. Mormons are free to teach want they want to teach in Mormon-owned and operated schools, but what they teach should not be permitted in public schools.

 

[maxcok]

If this country is so bad, evil, wrong, misguided, dishonest, and unworthy of your trust...then leave. Stop complaining about something you cannot change, like the past, and leave. Its not about political partys. Its not about color. Its not about slavery. All of that is in the past and NO ONE can change any part of it. The democrats cry about how everyone has suffered due to the white man. The republicans scream about if not for the white man, there would be no America. At the end of the day, does any of that shit matter?

Who says this country is "bad, evil, wrong, misguided, dishonest, and unworthy of your trust"? Try to keep up.

Not to mention, if you think your country has problems, isn't it the responsible and American thing to do to call attention to the problems and try to improve the situation, rather than running away?

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You are on a adult website for cocks and people who love them...not some crazy ass radio show or Fox news!! I come on here to have a good time, not this bullshit!

Who's forcing you to read the Politics forum? If you don't like it, take your own advice...."then leave".

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She leaves Vinylboy foaming at the mouth?

That quality alone tells me she's doing something right.

I know you have trouble reading people, so allow me to interpret. He's not foaming, he's laughing his ass off at the idiot Teabag Queen. We're all laughing our asses off. We're laughing at anyone who desperately tries to defend her too. Yes, we're laughing at you too.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Impossible. Speculum's arsenal is empty. His response to my post makes that obvious.

But I had to at least put it out there.
I mean, who knows. Maybe one day these anonymous entities who are hell bent on labeling me as "an intolerant, bitter, angry black man with no life, who's also a socialist, a leech on the government, an anti-heterosexual, and an enemy to white people" will grow a set and bring forth a real debate.

 

[midlifebear]

Regarding Bachmann, I had not previously realized that she had the academic credentials that she has, although because of the source of the credentials, I question their value. So, it may be that she does know that she was intentionally lying in which case she was insulting the intelligence of the American people.

I had not previously known that she is a Mormon. I've read the Book of Mormon and concluded that it is practically 100% fiction. If it were true, there would be considerable archeological evidence, but there isn't a shred of archeological evidence. When Mormon missionaries are questioned about specific details in the book, all they can say is, "I believe the Book of Mormon;" their church has not prepared them to deal with the obvious questions.

One of the things about the Mormon Church that disturbs me is that Mormons are not permitted to disagree with any Mormon doctrines. Rather, they are expected to follow Mormon beliefs in lock-step which is very different from the way my church operates; we are expected and encouraged to think and discuss. If they have doubts, they are afraid to express them because doing so would put them at risk of being excommunicated, rejected by their families, and losing the tightly knit social system on which they have become highly dependent.

Probably there aren't enough Mormons to be dangerous, but we should, to the extent possible, see to it that they are exposed to other ideas. Mormons are free to teach want they want to teach in Mormon-owned and operated schools, but what they teach should not be permitted in public schools.

Fre: I don't think she is a mormon. She obtained her J.D. at Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Oklahoma, famous for it's "Prayer Tower." Oral Roberts first came to my attention when I was about 10 years old and he had a tent revival - slash - faith healing program on broadcast TV, back when there were barely three national broadcast companies: NBC, ABC, and CBS. He was a Pentecostal "televangilist" who "cured" the blind, crippled, and variously diseased regularly every Sunday for all 'Mericuh to see. He parlayed that into the Pentecostal Oral Roberts University in Tulsa.

I did mention, however, that like Oral Roberts University, one can obtain a mormon-colored Juris Doctor degree at Brigham Young University.

I usually just bash mormons because I grew up in a mormon family and understand them far too well. However, if and when Sister Bachmann begins speaking in tongues (which seems she's close to doing), I won't be too surprised. I'm sure many consider her blather babble just that. I, however, fully expect her head to spin and she that she spout in perfect ancient Sumarian. Otherwise, it's just revisionist history as usual.

I agree with your views regarding mormons the freedom to believe as they wish, as long as it doesn't harm children, animals, or the Constitution. In the great tradition of mormon profits . . . err, prophets, I had a "vision" that Mitt Romney will be the Republican Poster Boy for President, 2012.

 

[B_OtterJoq]

But I had to at least put it out there.
I mean, who knows. Maybe one day these anonymous entities who are hell bent on labeling me as "an intolerant, bitter, angry black man with no life, who's also a socialist, a leech on the government, an anti-heterosexual, and an enemy to white people" will grow a set and bring forth a real debate.

Wait...you're black?

Funny...you don't write black.

:wink:

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Wait...you're black?

Funny...you don't write black.

:wink:

Now you're just being silly. Come over here so I can put my tongue on you. :wink: