Miley Cyrus debacle

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  1. faceking

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    Why is this child... remind yourselves... she is STILL A CHILD defending herself???

    Where's the ultra-lib ideals of Annie Lebovitz ??? Where's her defense... she is the "director" of the photo shoot of this 15 yr old girl in the "name of art". Vanity Fair should take a hit,... but this lauded NY hack should be called out.

    At least Mapplethorpe exploited adults that knew better...
     
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    1. She's not displaying any nudity

    2. Both her parents were present during the entire shoot

    3. Nobody fucking cares.
     
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    Shame on Miley's parents for allowing a CHILD to pose like that even though it is tasteful.

    Shane on Annie for wanting to photograph a CHILD like this.

    And yesw, why is it that Miley is the one defending herself, where are her parents? And why have they not come to her defense. OH yeah she's the multi million dollar bread winner. Shame on them..

    Vanity fair. How dare you portrait a CHILD in this fashion no matter how wordly she thinks she is. SHE IS A CHILD.
     
  4. ManlyBanisters

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    Oh come off it - loads of "supermodels" start in their teens - 13 and 14 - It has happened plenty of times and they get away with sexualising them far more because the wider audience doesn't know what age they are. This is just a 'scandal' because everyone knows she is fifteen.

    Bet fuck all people remember this by Christmas.
     
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    Robert Mapplethorpe didn't "exploit" anybody. His models were well-versed in the particulars of the acts they were photographed doing. Most were porn stars, you know.
     
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    The Disney Corporation is freaking out over their biggest star posing for suggestive photos. Miley may have some kind of morals clause in her contract that her parents overlooked.

    I was reading a few news articles about it, and they're saying that in three years Miley will be washed up as an idol and no longer a role model for little girls. By doing pics like this she's trying to get a jump start on more of an adult image and career.

    It is kind of odd for Annie to be doing this type of photo shoot. She has done some controversial ones in the past, but it was kind of unusual posing a nude girl against satin sheets looking seductive. And I'm not really sure what interest Vanity Fair readers would have in her, anyway.

    She is the bread winner like a lot of child stars, and she's made close to one billion for the Disney company. Her parents have been quiet yet she is saying she's embarrassed. Maybe she's embarrassed because of all the negative publicity. If nobody had said anything about it I wonder how embarrassed Miley would be?
     
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    ...btw, Mapplethorpe photographed a nude preteen as well.

    These days people find it so easy to speak out of both sides of their mouth.

    Our media today is hellbent on making sure that "13 going on 30" becomes a literal term, but then someone actually does something akin to being "mature for their age" and they get all psychotic.

    The Lebovitz pictures are not as risque as people are touting them to be, however it's all the other rediculousness that Miley's been getting away with that makes her so wrong.

    On radio and tv, people have been commenting that the way Miley acts is no different than what other teens are doing in Hometown, USA. Even if that is the case, she's not just any person. She (Disney) dictates the actions of many of the average American teens and pre-teens...so why should she be allowed to exhibit poor behavior? The leader doesn't act as the follower, it's the other way around.
     
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    I'm curious to know if the photos really are sexually provocative or if she just happens to be partially nude.

    This is what happens in a country that doesn't know how to separate nudity from sexuality: we sexualise everything and everyone.
     
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    Abso-fucking-lutely - let's sell Bratz and Winks dolls (all thigh boots and boob tubes) to little girls and flash images of Shakira's wiggling ass and similar at them and then get up on our moral high horses when one of them acts on it and behaves at all sexually. Well said, yj.

    Well quite - is it the 15 year old in the bikini who should be ashamed of herself for 'being sexy' or the adults labelling the image as 'sexy' that should be ashamed?
     
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    As it was a tasteful photo there should be no controversy. The puritans need to put a sock in it.
     
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    I looked at the photos and I am not shocked. She wasn't anywhere close to nude, she was posed in a sexy way, just the look on her face. The thing is, that's what's up now. This is what the world is like.

    My daughter is 7 yrs old. I fought for 2 yrs about buying her a Bratz. Have any of you seen these dolls? They're little whores! I gave in and I kind of make fun of the clothing. I'll tell her "look at how short that skirt is, you better not have her bend down or you can see her bum" she laughs and says "i know mommy, but they're cool"

    I just try to teach her about respecting herself and how to treat others. The fucked up thing is there are so many people worried about this and yet the violence in shows, movies and games are much, much worse. The human body is nothing to be ashamed of. Yet the uproar over the sexuality in the media, toys is much louder than the violence. WTF??
     
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    Thusly, my reference that they knew they were getting into.
     
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    Curious how many ppl here have children that age in this time...

    It's just lame.. easier way to get kicks. Parents should know better that she' not Avril, but on the Disney channel.

    Not a question of puritanism, it's about keeping children as children (see the gray'ing out of the line between Jon Benet Ramsey and Miley Cyrus).
     
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    We're not allowed to post minors on here. Do a google search and you'll find it. It's provocative and she is nude, but you only see her back; implied nudity. She's holding satin sheets up to her breasts. It's not the type of pic most people would want their 15 year old daughter doing.

    I don't think it's a question of puritanism either, but more or less what's appropriate for a 15 year old girl, whether she is a role model or not. It's controversial and she'll become even more famous because of it. Maybe that was the plan after all.
     
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    Yeah, and last I checked the readership of Vanity Fair was not that of Tiger Beat.

    When does it stop.... no matter how artistic and altruistic of an attempt?

    Why is Cyrus on the stand, and not the photographer....
     
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    Media folks have created a controversy where there is and was none.

    I barely know who or what she does, but I do know of her father and only the that cracker jarhead sang a song that ought to be played to him endlessly after he's sent to the deepest pit in hell. You know "achy breaky...."

    argh.
     
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    And those photos a few years ago of a pre teen Christina Ricci caused exactly what to happen...?
     
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    I understand the sarcasm fk, but the Jean Benet reference is tasteless and the link a bad idea for the site owner.

    Why is Cyrus on the stand? Maybe some people believe 15 year old girls can actually think for themselves!! :eek: Shock horror - I can see the headlines now!! :rolleyes:
     
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    My favorite child star is Tracy Lords.
     
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    The same photographs of any other girl her age would not be seen as provocative or spark widespread discussion/debate.

    The only thing that's provocative about these pictures is that it is this particular girl.

    I should specify that I'm talking about the Annie Leibovitz Vanity Fair photographs, not the candids of Miley in her underwear that concurrently showed up on the internet (what timing! :rolleyes:).

    The whole episode is utterly ridiculous. I find it hard to believe that no one in the Disney organization or the billion dollar Miley Cyrus empire has ever seen a copy of Vanity Fair before. And regardless, these are hardly the kind of truly provocative shots the magazine is famous for. In addition not only were her parents present, so were the managers and publicists who represent her personally as well as the show. No one - including Disney brass - was taken by surprise here.

    In my humble but very experienced opinion the fallout from this reeks of a massive and very well executed PR stunt to help her take the first step toward a post-adolescent career. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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