Military after porn past

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  1. MII

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    I am now 23 years old and have been out of college for a little over one year. I have made the career decision to join the military as it presents a great opportunity for to gain some valuable skills and experience.

    However, I am currently in the process of enlisting as an officer and have a question:

    When I was about 19 years old I appeared in a few gay porn films, one on a VERY popular gay website. I know for a fact that the particular websites is one of the largest and most visited sites out there.

    Will my past in porn affect my enlistment in the military? Can I be booted based on a film that was done prior to my service?

    I am prepared to deal with other service members finding out, however, can I be disqualified from joining?
     
  2. montanaguy

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    My guess is that it will probably depend on how deep of a background check the military will do on you.
     
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    Nobody will care you were in porn once you are blown to bits by an IED.
     
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    ^Er...they may be concerned by who's blown him in the past tho. ;)

    Not sure, but good luck anyway dude. :)
     
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    Its ok. They don't ask. You don't tell.

    I honestly dont know. Im certain the army wouldn't search any gay site though. How would you past affect you in the Army?

    Im certain the Taleban don't give porn jobs for national secrets.
     
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    Don't ask, don't tell
     
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    I am certain that I would not be the only service member that has done porn before they joined, right?
     
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    It also may depend on what job you intend to do in the military. Certain top secret positions may even require a lie detector test. If they ask you out right if you have had sex with a member of the same sex then you may be out.

    I say maybe because right now things are very uncertain; Prior to the mid term elections it seemed that Don't ask and Don't tell were about to be dropped. Now they are in limbo again but at least for the immediate time leading up to the elections recruiters were told the could accept openly gay and lesbian people with the caveat that they be told that the issue was pending a reversal.

    If you are straight( I didn't look at your profile) then they truly do not care as long as you are not black mailable or an associate of a terrorist or have a relative that can be coereced.
     
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    You won't be asked. But remember the deal you are making. You may get an education, but you will be a 'soldier'. It doesn't matter your MOS; all soldiers are trained to be rifleman. That's what basic training is. You will also be required to place your life on the line for the accomplishment of a mission and the defense of your comrades. You are a cog in the military machine. Your personal welfare is a secondary consideration.
     
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    All things that I have considered and am prepared to go through with. However, could these films be used to boot me from the military?
     
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    I suspect that would indeed be an issue.

    The US military usually has very similar policies
    on stuff like that as we do (Canadian military);
    A thing like that, if ever found out , could be a career ender.
    Its an issue of how you may affect DoD's reputation, it's public image.
    (especially as a comissioned officer)
    Then there are all the possibilities of propaganda use by unfriendly groups.
    (potentially jeopardizing operational goals)

    I think you cannot ignore this one.
     
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    Well dude, there have been cases where guys have been discharged for having done porn. The cases I've heard of though involved guys who were still in at the time they were involved in it. I know from personal knowledge of a member of our branch that it was found out she had posed for a magazine nude; I'm trying to remember if she got discharged or not.

    When it comes to security clearances, things they typically look for are employment history and financial responsibility by checking your credit report. Did you get paid for it?

    The way things have been going lately with all of the DADT stuff going on, it's kind of hard to say definitively what would happen now. From some of the guidance that I've seen come down, there was an intent to put all DADT related discharges on hold. Not sure if that changed with the injunction being appealed.

    I guess overall my advice would be if you haven't outright lied about anything so far, you should be fine. Wish I could give you some better advice on that.

    What branch are you looking at by the way?
     
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    It could be considered conduct unbecoming an officer. The officer ranks are a bit more formal then the enlisted ranks.
     
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    In a word: yes.

    Hundreds of military personnel are being discharged every year thanks to DADT, and on far flimsier grounds than documented acts of gay sex that can be found all over the internet.

    You have heard of Tineye before, non?

    Good luck, but as far as I can see, this is a (highly unpleasant) discharge just waiting to happen.
     
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    The majority of military classification require only a criminal background check. If you are going to be an officer upon entry, you are probably a college graduate. Your academic record will be checked. But, if you require a higher security level investigation, the FBI can be involved, you will be asked about your life, you may be polygraphed (depending on the security level),and if the film company issued W2's, that may show in a tax audit.
     
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    Yeah, this is all true too actually. You should see some of the discharge cases that come through our offices. One case I saw involved this O-5 that had a Fleshlight shipped to his office and showed it to female subbordinate. That and his piercing. Craziness.
     
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    My hunch is that this'll depend on what you expect out of a military career. Is it likely to thwart a 4-year stint as an officer? Probably not. Will it sack you if you try for a promotion to something major or lt. cmdr? Most likely.

    If you're really thinking of the forces as a medium-term employment option, it's less likely to creep up as an issue. But know that your career would have a fuse. Don't trick yourself at 28 into thinking it'll never pop up.
     
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    Soldiers have been kicked out of the US military for doing gay porn. Now, they were soldiers at the time they did it, but US gay news sources I read have stories all the time about soldiers getting booted from the military because one of their fellow or commanding officers explicitly looked for evidence that they were gay.

    It's my understanding that regardless of how the evidence is found, you can be booted once the evidence is found.

    I suggest you check out the Servicemember's Legal Defence Fund.


    To be clear: The Canadian Forces allow queer servicemembers, recruit at Pride events, and even allow queer servicemembers to be married on base by military personnel and share quarters designated for married personnel. Having a past in porn may prejudice your advancement in the military, or possibly result in your discharge...I don't know. But the Canadian Forces do not have any explicitly homophobic policies.
     
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    What if he passes all the "clearances" required and he begins his military "career" for lack of a better word. What happens if a peer or subordinate finds this porn and turns him in? Would he be discharged?
     
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    There was a very famous example of how this comes around to bite you.

    One gay porn site that pays straight military guys to jerk off, suck cock and fuck on camera was embroiled in a media frenzy a few years ago. A few of the guys were recognized and ejected from the military over it.

    The fact that this was prior to your career probably wont change things much. You'd still have to deal with the onslaught of jibes and insults if/when it was discovered.
    And it's not like you can just deny that it was you. Even if you look completely different, there is a legal record and disclaimer on file which you would have completed to allow you to appear, and the military/government can request this at any time.

    If the site is that popular, you can almost certainly guarantee that you will be noticed. There are lots of guys in the military who watch gay porn. Most of them wouldn't say anything for fear of being outed themselves, but you can't really predict what stories guys might come up with to be able to out you without incriminating themselves in the process.

    It really sucks, but I think you have to consider the risks yourself and really think hard about how you would deal with it if this was exposed while you were serving.

    None of us can really say what you should do. We can only state things that perhaps you might not have considered.

    Good luck though.

    Edited to add:
    Have you considered offering to buy back the content from the site? I don't know if there is a legal possibility to demand that content featuring you be removed. I guess that once the media is produced it contractually belongs to the production company.
    Either way, I think you should contact them and ask them about removing it from the site. Go over the agreement you made with them too and see what that says.

    Doing this would at least make the content less easily available to any prying eyes if it does come up in the future.
     
    #20 captainwhackit, Nov 8, 2010
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