Minnesota Senator

[B_Nick8]

Find all my gloating posts in 2004... i was here ya prick.

Wow, prixina, it's been two months since I wrote that, and I wasn't here in 2004 and I can't imagine why I need to bother researching you. Is that germane to anything?

The guy won then, and apparently he's won now and this can be fought in court as long as your candidate--or you--would like. That's an amazingly brilliant use of personal and taxpayer resources isn't it? Wouldn't these monies be better spent lobbying for alternative ways to push his/your agenda or working for his/another candidate's election in the next cycle? Honestly, a quick lick of your wounds and then moving on is much more efficient and productive than continually railing against them for the next 6 years.

You'll never get a thing done that way, trust me.

Sometimes you seem like such a bitter little man.

 

[hot-rod]

Of all the races fought and won this time around, an Al Franken victory is one I wouldn't accept. He is a vile, hard-left asshole.

That's a good thing!

 

[faceking]

Well here we go... I was wondering (and not just this race) when someone would say... "hey John Doe your registered, you showed up, but your vote didn't seem to count. "

There might not only be a few adjustments... (and I will grant it happens on both sides) but we might find some research shows there was some serious malfeasance in tow... maybe .. maybe not... but gotta love this:

Minnesota Senatorial Election Rejected Absentee Ballot List - ColemanForSenate.com

Basically, they are taking the "you voted, it didn't take, and you were rejected due to the process.. but what is your voice, because that's what counts not a technicality".

Now what they need to do, is go door-to-door on the 3 bogus counties that somehow out-of-the-norm, came in after the fact with Frankens goons to overwhelming vote 3-fold over the party line... in other words... 3x for Franken, yet 1x for other Democrats candidates... unheard of in most states, nearly impossible in a state like MN, much less those counties.... there was a reason why Franken was in a rush to push for declaration. Sit back bozo... your corrupt ass will probably still win, but let's see what the process brings up....

 

[mindseye]

You started with this...

Well here we go... I was wondering (and not just this race) when someone would say... "hey John Doe your registered, you showed up, but your vote didn't seem to count. "

And then cited this...

Minnesota Senatorial Election Rejected Absentee Ballot List - ColemanForSenate.com

1. These are specifically people who didn't show up; your poor emotional plea about how tragic it is that people who showed up didn't get their vote counted failed.
2. Your link is to ColemanForSenate.com -- couldn't you have at least tried to find a neutral source for this?
3. ...

Basically, they are taking the "you voted, it didn't take, and you were rejected due to the process.. but what is your voice, because that's
what counts not a technicality".

So before the election, you claimed that accepting irregularities was fraud; now you're claiming that they're technicalities.

Well, that's certainly fair. IOKIYAR. When did you ever defend Florida voters in 2000 whose votes weren't counted because of a technicality involving how many corners of their chad were detached?

 

[mindseye]

I'll amplify:

Deputy Secretary of State Jim Gelbmann said that in December the Coleman camp wouldn't accept 1,346 absentee ballots that county elections officials said were wrongly rejected.

Before Wednesday's testimony, the three-judge panel hearing the suit denied Coleman's motion to prevent Franken's lawyers from detailing the Republican's earlier resistance to admitting improperly rejected absentee ballots.

(source)

In fact, here's the story from December:

The court ruled against Coleman's attempt to block the Canvassing Board from counting any improperly rejected absentee ballots, but said such ballots can be counted only when both campaigns and local officials agree they have been improperly excluded.

So, here's Norm Coleman: "Screw those backwoods hillbillies who can't fill out a ballot correctly! If you can't follow instructions, you shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway. ...What? We're behind! Count them! Count them! These fair citizens are being disenfranchised!"

 

[Guy-jin]

Wow..... wow. 100% of precincts in, and Franken is down by 500 votes. Surely a recount, and lawsuits, and voter fraund and voter intimidation.

Odd, how when it doesn't make a difference, not much of a peep.

Surely it's fraud and intimidation.

Surely.

I mean, it was fraud and intimidation the first time, why wouldn't it be this time?

Oh right, because this time it's your guy who's lost. Gotcha.

 

[mindseye]

From Day 2 of the Coleman hearings (source):

Another Coleman witness demonstrated why sorting valid from invalid ballots was difficult. Douglas Thompson, who said he voted absentee because he was caring for his mother in Arizona, acknowledged that his girlfriend actually filled out his absentee ballot application and that he did not sign it.
"The signature is not your signature?" asked Kevin Hamilton, a Franken attorney.
"No, it is not," said Thompson, who said his girlfriend's signature probably ultimately led election officials to reject his ballot.

This is a Coleman witness, and one of the absentee ballots that Norm Coleman is seeking to have counted. Douglas Thompson also appears on the list faceking posted from the Coleman for Senate website.



faceking: Is this a "technicality" to you? Should Douglas Thompson's vote be counted?

When Coleman lawyer Jim Langdon asked Wesley Briest, 88, how he voted, Briest initially said he "went to the ballot place and voted. Not absentee." Later, when shown an absentee ballot envelope, he confirmed that he had signed it and denied that he also voted in person.

faceking: Should an absentee ballot be accepted for a person who also appeared in person at the precinct and voted there, too?

 

[mindseye]

Find all my gloating posts in 2004... i was here ya prick.

You were here in 2004, but not until after the election had ended.

Even then, you opposed re-examining ballots from the 2004 election. That's a flip-flop from your current position: you posted a list of absentee voters whom you claimed were rejected because of technicalities and deserved a second look.

I've responded to that post, and you've been quiet ever since on the topic.

Have you departed this sinking ship?

 

[adm22mn]

Im from MN and so tired of hearing about this. If the campaign ads werent enough (talk about mud slinging and taking the ads too far), we get stuck with all of this bs! I wish it would stop!!

 

[vince]

I've responded to that post, and you've been quiet ever since on the topic.

Have you departed this sinking ship?

He's "researching".




btw- Ne öğreniyor musun?

 

[B_bi_in_socal]

Al Franken INSISTS that Minnesota empty it's prisons and let the inmates vote. To hell with the constitution, EVERY VOTE SHOULD COUNT.


Of course this is a real argument the left uses. Even votes of the ineligible count according to them.

 

[mindseye]

Al Franken INSISTS that Minnesota empty it's prisons and let the inmates vote.

I say you're a liar. Prove this absurd claim.

 

[faceking]

So before the election, you claimed that accepting irregularities was fraud; now you're claiming that they're technicalities.

Well, that's certainly fair. IOKIYAR. When did you ever defend Florida voters in 2000 whose votes weren't counted because of a technicality involving how many corners of their chad were detached?

Your crush on me is shining through... where did I say that, much less "irregularities was fraud". I claimed there was fraud on both sides... there's fraud often and throughout elections, they tend to not make it worthwhile (or a difference [see Florida 2000] (though some have a valid argument against that sentiment).

Also, I think you assumed a bit in my statements. I've mostly been predicting what would happen as the outcome.

I do love your statement earlier in this thread, btw: Calling him 'bumbling' is just more of the same old partisan character assassination we see around here every day.

Oh hey Pot, have you met the Kettle yet? Let me introduce you.

 

[mindseye]

Calling him 'bumbling' is just more of the same old partisan character assassination we see around here every day.

Oh hey Pot, have you met the Kettle yet? Let me introduce you.

Do you really want to go there?

 

[MNGuy]

I love Al Franken!!

 

[midlifebear]

I'm rather fond of Franken, too. If only we'd had him running for Senator last year in Nevada against the spooky Sharron Angle. Even cowboys enjoy, and vote for, the candidate who can take on verbal assaults and turn them against the competition. If you're intelligent and likable, a good portion of Nevada Republicans will vote for you -- even if you're a Democrat.

If Harry Reid had a natural sense of humor and thrown in a couple of Henny Youngman one liners during his campaign last year, it would have been much easier for him to have won the election. As it was, he was slightly more popular than dry toast. Fortunately, Angle's old web pages were widely available making her appeal to the National Socialist Party, circa 1930s.

 

[B_OtterJoq]

Franken is a HUGE asset to Minnesota and America. Thank you, Al!