Misunderstanding male sexuality

[Drifterwood]

Do you think you have a residual inherited distaste for male sexuality and the "dirty" things that men do? Do you think that some women find men just a little icky, and disrespect them for this?

I mention this because I recently saw a film in which male masterbation and fantasy habits were shown in a very unflattering light.

 

[Gillette]

What would you expect of a gender made of whales and snails and puppy dog tails? That's are what boys are made of isn't it?

I don't think I find anything about male sexuality inherently distasteful. In fact other than the urge 'to be inside' I suspect there isn't that much of a difference between male and female sexuality. So much of sexuality is personal preference I don't think it can or should be dilineated along gender lines.

I'd be curious to see this film.

 

[Drifterwood]

To show what a sad fuck the husband was, they showed him jacking off on some woman's website with a pair of her used knickers in his face.

His wife had the same reaction to the guy as did the women I was watching the film with. I went with the stereotype that he was a sad fuck.

But it occurred to me the next day that this guy wanted a "real" connection to the woman that he fantasised about online.

Consider that if it had been a woman masterbating over her fantasies of Brad Pitt or whoever, then it would have been presented as a positive and sexually liberating experience. But really why is wanking off with some vibrating plastic any better or worse than jerking off with a pair of knickers?

So I think that aspects of male sexuality are misrepresented and scorned, whilst women doing a similar thing are shown as hot and sexy.

 

[Gillette]

My guess would be that panties over the face is scorned because it looks so comical that nobody wants to embrace or support it. I had a bf who would do that with my panties, even with me in the room. I giggled every time I saw it because it does look foolish, but at the same time I was very flattered that he couldn't get enough of my scent.

Do you think the 'sad fuck' judgement was entirely due to the panties or might it have been partly due to the fact that he was doing something outside of the marriage?

 

[Drifterwood]

His/their marriage was empty and meaningless, there was no communication about either of their needs or desires. She had a hot steamy affair - he jerked off with panties in his face

I still think that female sexuality is generally portrayed sympathetically, and as sexy, whilst men are protrayed fucking rubber chickens et al :biggrin1:

 

[B_Think_Kink]

Was it superbad?

Anyhow no... I think that males can be raised to be clean or dirty. Depending on the habbits of the environment that the child grows up in.

 

[SpoiledPrincess]

A pair of stranger's used knickers over his face is ick because who knows where they actually came from, wanking with his wifes/gf's knickers over his face is fairly common, but it does look comical. I've never found men's sexuality in any way disgusting. I think some women hide their true sexuality because they're scared of being judged for it.

 

[Drifterwood]

Women way be worried about being judged, but i don't see it happening in film etc. I can't think of an example off the top of my head of women and their sexuality being treated unsympathetically. Whereas men being treated unsympathetically seems commonplace.

 

[Gillette]

Showgirls.

The lead character's sexuality in that was both comical and pathetic.

 

[Not_Punny]

Methinks you're overreacting, DW.

There are bagillions of porn vids of men doing a wide variety of things, from truly despicable to mildly kinky, that are NOT portrayed it in a humiliating or "isn't it gross" way. There are also tons of vids that show hate and humiliation toward women.

The film was one person's viewpoint. Some people are going to agree it. SOme people are not going to agree with it.

Heck, some people think that ANY kind of masturbation is gross and disgusting -- "self-abuse" they used to call it. Some people don't bat an eyelid at buggering animals until they die. There are zillions of viewpoints.

So -- my question to you is (pardon me for asking), why are you reacting so strongly to this film?

 

[Drifterwood]

Pardon me? You didn't fart did you? :biggrin1:

The film was mainstream, so I wouldn't judge it against the porn genre.

The film was ultimately depressing and negative about everyone. But that isn't my point.

One of the male characters was effectively dismissed for being a sad little loser wanking off with used panties in his face. I am not defending my secret fetish, before everyone sends me their soiled panties in sympathy . It just crossed my mind the next day, that it has become a bit of a stereotype to portray some men as pathetic dirty little perverts.

I watched Shortbus the other week and again, the only two characters not treated with any sympathy were the two straight males.

 

[Not_Punny]

Perhaps my eyes deceived me, but I don't remember the film being named or specified as a theatrical release.

In any case, it STILL was one person's viewpoint. Pantie jack-offs were shown as HOT in Portnoy's Complaint -- and those were his sister's panties!

Ah, I'm too tired to get into a debate. I just can't go with the flow that it's all down on men and up with women. Sorry.:wink:

 

[Drifterwood]

I am also not interested in us and them debates. This isn't intended to be, rather an observation that male sex acts are often portrayed unsympathetically. And I wonder why?

I don't know the film Portnoy's Complaint.

 

[Not_Punny]

Ahhhh! There you go again, "... often portrayed..." :wink::wink::wink:

Portnoy's Complaint is an old film from the 70's I think. It was ground breaking for showing teenage male sexuality.

Well, I feel sorry for the people that wrote, directed and acted in the film you're talking about.

And whatever the film was, it's not exactly a blockbuster. If the name of the movie is "Shortbus", it's not showing on a screen within 50 miles of Hollywood (I just did a search). So I wouldn't worry about the film having much impact on society. It just ain't getting the airtime!

:biggrin1:

 

[Ed69]

Do you think you have a residual inherited distaste for male sexuality and the "dirty" things that men do? Do you think that some women find men just a little icky, and disrespect them for this?

I mention this because I recently saw a film in which male masterbation and fantasy habits were shown in a very unflattering light.

I don't need a movie to varify this.I live it,it's my reality!My mother and three sisters see me and all the men in our family as dirty little boys.The only time it was ok for me to be sexual was when my wife and I were trying to have children.After the children were born I was the dirty boy again and still am.As a result I only see them once a year anymore and it's like passing the time of day with strangers.

 

[Drifterwood]

ThanKs Ed. I have seen this attitude and whilst Gillette amusingly reminded us that we are made of slugs and snails and puppy dog tails, I think a certain amount of disdain for male sexuality reverberates in mainstream media.

All ladies are made of sugar and spice and all things nice :tongue:

 

[SpoiledPrincess]

Oh don't believe a bit of it we can be every bit as disgusting as you - and more

 

[bobabooey69]

I think the film was "Little Children" with Kate Winslet.
I remember the scene with the guy jerkin' off with panties over his head, I thought it was hillarious.

The reason the wife was angry, simply because he was deceitful.
Funny enough she embarks on some less faithful behavior of her own.
Good film, check it out.

 

[B_ScaredLittleBoy]

I think a few women would be 'disgusted' that I spit inside my foreskin when I'm masturbating :tongue:

I had a girlfriend that would start screaming when I was shaving going 'you're going to CUT yourself! I CAN'T WATCH!' because I shave really fast. You only get cut if you stop

The 'two (twin) sisters' and/or 'mother/sister' fantasy is pretty repulsive to most women but seems to be a common fantasy. Obviously not one of mine

Anyway, ABOUT WOMEN:

What's the deal leaving blood stained underwear in the bathroom!? In the sink?! Those tampax pad things STUCK to the wall?

That's just in my house...leaving pubes in the bath too. It's just sickening :tongue:

 

[Drifterwood]

Oh don't believe a bit of it we can be every bit as disgusting as you - and more

I know, it's great :biggrin1:

But do you think that there is any general attitude difference when you are doing something "dirty" as opposed to when I do something "dirty"?