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  1. Shelby

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    Just an illustration of the (as Geaorge Carlin put it) "pussification" of our society. Feminism has become sacred and untouchable just like the Civil Rights movement made black racism untouchable. Its a double-standard seen in our movie industry where the penis is hardly ever seen. Male chauvanism has made the penis into a violent and offensive object, something to be feared.
    Man has been castrated.
     
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    I heard the vagina monolgues were just better done than the penis ones. Is that not true? They said the writer of the vagina stories was more witty and funny and the guy who did the penis ones just wasn't and his show wasn't as well-constructed.

    But yes usually penis = bad and tits = good. Although we don't see much pussy on TV :(
     
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    Are you sure you meant "male Chauvanism"? Radical feminism, maybe?
     
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    I see radical feminism as a reaction to male chauvanism.
     
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    Honestly, there are a few things to consider, though. Namely that the U.S. is a rape-prone society.

    I didn't know the Vagina Monologues invovled seducing a 13-year-old. Doubt it; right-wingers play the pedo card when they're not playing the commie card.
     
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    But I think Commies are cool :(
     
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    Having not seen either, I can only guess. Sure, the pendulum swings and males can certainly jusitiably feel pussified, but like the black racists during the civil rights movement (we see what a great job was done there!) I doubt very much at all will come of our current feeble attempt toward female equality. This is a fight we've been at forever too with not much progress. I have no idea how anyone could reasonbly accept one play and not the other though.

    Personally, I hate things that are slanted too far to one side, most feminists give me the willies. I don't want ADVANTAGES for being a woman, just the same shot as the next "guy", which in the real world doesn't always happen. Some thoughts:

    *If men didn't use their penises to rape, women wouldn't fear them as much. As many as 35% (!!!!!!!!!!) of all women will be raped at least once in her life. THAT'S absurd!

    *If men didn't feel they had to have either absolute control or be seen as "pussified", maybe we could all just get along, but so far they seem to demand one way or the other. Same with racial debates, the moderates have the right idea, both extremes are whacky.

    *If women would stop whining about every little thing, men might take us more seriously. If 90% of a man's experience with women has shown them that we're whiny, lazy, weak, inarticulate, desperate to "fall in love" so we can live off of their paychecks, then they're not going to be too ready to believe the 10% who actually do wish to support ourselves, have bothered to read a few books, don't give a shit about their money and won't tolerate being controlled. I don't blame men nearly as much as I blame my "sistas".

    *Equal pay for equal work? Only if we can do the same job exactly as the job description call for without lowering the standards. Oh yeah, and ONLY if we take our job seriously enough to show up every day. If those two criteria are met, absolutely and there's no excuse not to.


    I feel it's high time that we as a society redefine what we consider appropriate because right now we are running without a game plan and everyone is confused and angry.
     
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    And you live in Canada so you weren't taught from a very young age that communism's worse than fascism.
     
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    Sorry to disappoint you but it does---

    http://www.thehoya.com/viewpoint/021601/view3.htm
     
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    Is that to say that left-wingers condone pedo and communism?

    C'mon, jon, we're not the enemy, we just look under different rocks than you do.
     
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    I condone pedo, whats the big deal? I mean come on, when you get that fungus under your toe-nail, and it starts to stink, or how about hammer toes or bunyons?

    Oh wait... That PODIATRY, my bad....
     
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    No more than those of us who say accusations of witchcraft are bullshit think that witchcraft works.
     
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    Proof that some people just need things to complain about.
     
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    And you live in Canada so you weren't taught from a very young age that communism's worse than fascism.
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    Oh, in a way we have, but it's called developing an opinion, to contradict what we are taught. I don't really approve of Communism or Facism, because they are just pseudo-phycho left/right-wingers, which does nobody any good. The same goes for democracy. Though, it is a "happy medium" as some call it, we all know it's a burocracy and a joke. So, meh...what can you do?




    Anarchy?
     
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    No, I meant that thing about fascism. Throughout the Cold War, if some Third World country elected a social democrat, the CIA would go in and replace him with a U.S.-friendly fascist such as the Shah of Iran (British cooperation, too!), Mobutu Sese Seko, Augusto Pinochet, Saddam Hussein, or Manuel Noriega. Of course, the U.S. media called the new regime a "democracy". Even today, the media tries to claim Chávez was a despot (with 59% of the vote, no less) and Carmona was the democratically-elected leader.

    Democracy isn't so much a "happy medium" unless you're only thinking of the economic element. Canada does have the advantage of having four parties, to the U.S.'s one-which-pretends-to-be-two. Of course, as Iraq has shown, sometimes democracy isn't as good as people think it might be. What Joe Lockhard called "missionary democracy" is more missionary than democracy, kinda like how romantic comedies are more romantic than comedy.
     
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    Well, you're living under fascism. Mussolini even described it as corporate control of government.
     
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    One of the more common government strategies today, is fascism. Fascism is commonly confused with Nazism. Nazism is a political party platform that embraces a combination of a military dictatorship, socialism and fascism. It is not a government structure. Fascism is a government structure. The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems.

    Simply stated, a fascist government always has one class of citizens that is considered superior (good) to another (bad) based upon race, creed or origin. It is possible to be both a republic and a fascist state. The preferred class lives in a republic while the oppressed class lives in a fascist state.
     
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    Communism is a joke, because equality is a joke.

    Socialism is a pretty good one, but doesn't work in most societies.

    Facsism could work, but until nationalism is revived, it won't.

    Democracy is a huge joke. You make the people think they have a choice. It's obvious to me that plutocrats will always rule in a "free-market" economic system.

    Monarchy is interesting, but the people usually get screwed.

    Oligarchy is fun too, but triumvirates always dissolve into pissing-contests.

    Republic is slightly better than democracy, but the dictator loophole always turns them into monarchies.

    IMO, organized government sucks, but anarchy sucks too. Go figure. :evilgrin:
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    Wow, I agree with everything you've said here. *looks around for lightning to strike*

    No governmental system could survive in our current society because of our egos. I can't imagine us accepting any leader and uniting around him or her because we all want our own little special interests to be the main topic of conversation. I wish we had LESS government altogether, less police, less tax, less government programs, less, less LESS!

    I've heard talk of eliminating income tax in preference of higher sales tax, it will be interesting to see if anything comes of it.
     
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    Less POLICE??? Sure when the police abuse their power and become the problem sure we need less of those, but less police in a general sense? Explain please.
     
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