Moral Relativism

Discussion in 'Relationships, Discrimination, and Jealousy' started by CaligulaKant, May 7, 2008.

  1. CaligulaKant

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    By the nature of this site one is going to come across people of many differing sexual persuasions...

    Why is it then that so many of you "frequent" posters would bother to be on such a forum if you cannot accept those said same sexualities.

    Being conservative in any way regarding sexuality and coming on sites like this is sort of an oxymoron to me.

    Either accept it all or find somewhere else to post.
     
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    i think some people imagined this would be a gay only or straight only site, and didn't think it'd include (insert fetish)
     
  3. B_Mademoiselle Rouge

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    Explain which frequent posters you are talking about. I've not seen one frequent poster have a problem with the gay, straight or bi community here. We can be however we wish to be sexually, you cant extend the boundaries beyond another persons comfort level just because you are comfortable with it.

    No one is insulting anyones sexual orientation. You can't have thousands of people from all across the planet conglomerate at one site about sex and not have their own opinions and experiences.

    Maybe you shouldnt be at a sex site if you cant except another persons viewpoint.
     
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    im sorry for picking on you. but just the fact that people think that this site is for gay people or stright people or for porn is kinda messed up. the name, LPSG, suggests that it is a support group for people who happen to have large penises. where does that name sound like anything other than the purposeful meaning? i came on this site maybe four years ago when i was 17 or 16(i used to be helio415 if anyone remembers) just needing support for having something that no one talked about. i dont have a dad to tell me that maybe i should wear this kind of underwear or what not because i have an above average penis. the only time sex should be discussed on this forum is to talk about having sex and being well endowed. im sorry again but i dont get how people would think anything other than just a support group.
     
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    They probably assume that the gay/straight/female/adult video boards/sex with a large penis/ways to make it larger/etc forums might bring about topics that have something to do with their appropriate titles.

    All of a sudden everyone has these ideas that LPSG should just be about support for large penises and what ever subjects that come about other than that are ridiculous. There's a strange brew coming about.
     
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    when i first came on here that was pretty much what it was about. there was parts that were questionable... but mostly it was full of information. but in the past year or so it became more about "oh id have sex with you" and less about "am i normal". which is funny because whenever these kids ask if they are normal people here get pissed off that someone is making another thread about the same thing. so its probably just the whole forum that is corrupt.
     
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    I consider asking many of those questions to be a form of getting information and support. They annoy the hell out of me because they recycle again and again for those of us who have been here more than 7 days.

    This site is very prolific because its unique and crosses so many lines of culture, sexuality and intelligent information. The diverse topics and community makes for a very exciting place...if you can get past the fake females, am i big, how does my penis look, does size matter, and posts of the like.
     
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    totally understandable. i dont think that this forum was meant for a lot of the things it has now but a lot of it is interesting. i enjoy learning about the fetishes and weird kinky things that people do. i surly wouldn't do al ot of it but it is very interesting to learn about.
     
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    you misunderstood my post. i don't care if someone's gay, straight, bi, or tri, but i was referring to the OP's sentiment that some members express discomfort with other people's sexualities. it does happen, although i don't see it a lot. most of the straight guys here are very cool to me and don't speak to me any differently than they would their other straight friends. again, i don't have a problem with anyone's sexuality, but there's a member or two that does. i wouldn't have devoted a thread to em though, i think one of em got banned.
     
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    Px plz kthx
     
  11. CaligulaKant

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    hmmm, how to respond to you... I've read many of your posts since you are reasonably articulate and have useful input on the discussions you enter... yet you tend to be less accepting of some of the less mainstream diversions. It's ok to disagree with a persons fetish/philia, but to extend it to an explanation as to why they are wrong in their beliefs is the problem I have with many of the responses I see here.Who is anyone here to judge anyone on their sexuality. Any judgment at all as to the appropriateness of any sexual behavior is anathema to the idea of free and open sexuality. correct me if Im wrong.
     
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    i understand. it just brought out this inner hatred for the people who come here thinking its some porn site or something.
     
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    working on it...trying to decide which ones to put up...
     
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    I knew you were referring to me, thats why i asked. My childhood, background, family values, parents, personality and sexual proclivities make me who i am. Just as yours make you who you are. It's human to have some sort of judgement in areas of our lives. I dont think you can remove judgement from the human mind.

    I am a very sexual person, I am not 100% straight and i participate in fetish. What i don't like is incest being portrayed as something totally natural and mainstream porn making women out to be whores, sluts and cumbuckets. I've seen 500 "Sluts for Hire" videos on Xtube today alone.

    I think most of my opinions are pretty accepting. If incest or an obvious humiliation factor towards women strike a nerve with you i am willing to accept that. As what i believe is not what everyone believes. I would not have jumped out and posted the Sluts and Whores thread if i didn't feel that most straight men and women didn't agree with me.

    I was not trying to be contriversial intentionally rather than to run my ideas of what i was compiling from what i was seeing in the professional industry as of late. I spend too many hours watching porn of all sorts from things that are pretty softcore to things i care not to mention here because it might freak some people out.

    I have no problem admitting that my views might not hold water with everyone here but i am quite thoughtful in my posts that inquire the opinions of others. I don't create new threads all the time just to keep the conversation going. If i am truly bothered by something i see time and time again i will run it by the people i can talk to about it. As i can't just pick up the phone and have this conversation with my mom or grandma.

    LPSG is a sounding board for many of us. We find out if we are alone in our thoughts on an issue or if a majority feels the way we do which makes us all feel a little bit better to know we aren't losing our mind.
     
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    I have spoken up against the 'touching others when asleep' thread due to the illegal implications of the thread. You'll find that most frequent posters on here have a very open mind, but will not be at all accepting to subjects that cross the line of their belief system.
    For example, some have spoken up against incest because of the fact that it often involves uderaged people/people being manipulated, which nobody with a good moral compass will agree with.
     
  16. CaligulaKant

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    Again, I love your writing... If a woman wants to be demeaned and it is HER philia (not that unusual IMO) then it should be accepted. Obviously the vast majority of videos of his nature are "exploitive", yet not ALL are. Subsequently , I feel that this is a fetish that is , though frequently disturbing to many, a sexual outlet that cannot be judged on the effect it has solely on its male viewers. As to incest, that is purely a societal judgment based mostly upon outdated religious and genetic concerns. If a incestuous relationship occurs between consenting partners , what harm is there, as compared to the harm any other complex relationship can inflict upon it's participants. If one is worried about genetically weak progeny as a result of such a relationship , then you are totally missing the point, and ,IMO, more than a little retarded yourself. (Not a response to you in particular...)
     
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    I think it's more of a "tribal" thing than any expression of intolerance although there is undoubtedly some of that, too; this place can't be totally removed from our larger culture.
     
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    While i dont want to continue the incest thread into this one as i've pretty much stated all i can really say on the issue. I'll always believe that about incest. There is something that leaves bad taste in the mouths of many when it comes to those who are adults and actually partake of sex with family members, for what ever reasons.

    None the less, the keyword you used that i should have put in my original post is "exploit" as it explains better what the industry has done to women, men and humiliation. There is no doubt a man could cum from being humiliated if that really was his turn on, vice versa, but i have no doubt that most of the barely legal women who participate in this genre of adult vids arent inclined to get aroused by it. There are so many vid samples cranked out everyday than more than makes up for the percentage of women who would truly enjoy this. I'm using speculative logic here honestly.

    I might generalize in my verbosity, but i truly speak for a majory and never assume that i speak for all people. LPSG reminds us a million times a day about cultural and sexual diversity. We all obviously have different flavors so to speak. I can respect that. It's the mere exploitation i dont respect about the industry. It's a tad insulting to my intelligence, and probably many others here would agree that they feel a little silly watching it at times.

    There is a whole different world of fetish participants in the privacy of their bedrooms than what is reflected in video. Their intelligence is often incredible and their research on their particular philia is immense. I can respect them for their devotion and understanding of psychophysiology.

    I'm sorry to have to be the subject of the thread that broke your silence around here, as i see you've been a member here longer than i have. But once again, we can come to reason and realize we might stand on opposite shores, but we can both see the water.
     
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    Mademoiselle Rouge your response cleared up some of my misunderstandings regarding your earlier posts. I , in actuality, tend to agree with you on most things you feel the desire to respond to. You are , by no means, someone whom I actually have a problem with here. Your responses are thoughtful and quite frequently piercing to the point . The reason for my starting this thread was more to do with the many inane responses to controversial subjects. It tires me to read the chatter of the schoolyard emanating from adults. Were it to be that all posters were as much a joy to read as yourself, I would never have reason to post such a fishing expedition as this thread actually is. Thanks again for your responses.
     
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    I'm a firm believer in conversation. Some people don't talk about things when they get angry, some of us just don't know when to shut up i guess. Either way, i've always said that talking about our feelings aloud to someons and bouncing ideas around tend to get relevations flowing. I think there is a cyclic thing with LPSG, whether related to the moon phases, seems to bring about some tension.

    I do feel like a Mommy getting bombarded with 90 questions from her child (which i deal with on a regular basis) and i tune it out for a while and all of a sudden let my frustrations out about it when it comes to repetitive thread topics. Then i realize that so many of my questions and inquiries were probably just as repetitive to the veterans around here.

    I'll be signing off for the day with this conclusion as i've been up way too long involved in the drama. But it has given me a lot to ponder on and a new understanding of my fellow man (and males for that matter). I have an immense respect for those willing to think about what i pose here and come back at me with their own perspective. For life gets boring if everyone agrees with us all time.

    I'm off to try to get some sleep now. Please give us more of your thoughts as feedback because i enjoy reading your posts as well.
     
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