More "Big Brother" from the Dept. of Justice

[MisterMark]

Your ISP as Net watchdog
By Declan McCullagh
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

The U.S. Department of Justice is quietly shopping around the explosive idea of requiring Internet service providers to retain records of their customers' online activities.

http://news.com.com/Your+ISP+as+Net+watchd...?tag=html.alert

 

[madame_zora]

From article:

Also, Alvaro wrote: "Given the volume of data to be retained, particularly Internet data, it is unlikely that an appropriate analysis of the data will be at all possible. Individuals involved in organized crime and terrorism will easily find a way to prevent their data from being traced." He calculated that if an Internet provider were to retain all traffic data, the database would swell to a size of 20,000 to 40,000 terabytes--too large to search using existing technology.




If this is the case, they why on earth would we save information that would be too vast to search? Earlier in the article it said that it was to protect the information needed in child abduction cases that might take 15 to 20 days for legal process to be drafted. Wow! So, because our court systems are too slow to be affective in these types of cases, the whole country must sacrifice our right to privacy. That's infuriating.

What will really happen here if this passes is not that we will be further protected from terrorism, but it will make the police's job easier of giving out tickets for minor offenses to ordinary citizens. Here comes the fall of the Merkin empire! More and more I want to crawl off to an island, turn off my computer, eat seaweed and get as far away from this country as I can before the shit hits the fan.

 

[13788]

hung_big: I don't know what to say. It's infuriating as Jana said. It's disgusting.

All those fictional stories about how by the year 2010 we'll all have lost our privacy really weren't too far exaggerated.

I seriously am at a loss for words.

 

[Freddie53]

Originally posted by madame_zora@Jun 24 2005, 06:55 PM
What will really happen here if this passes is not that we will be further protected from terrorism, but it will make the police's job easier of giving out tickets for minor offenses to ordinary citizens. Here comes the fall of the Merkin empire! More and more I want to crawl off to an island, turn off my computer, eat seaweed and get as far away from this country as I can before the shit hits the fan.

[post=323851]Quoted post[/post]​

Jana,

You can't crawl off to an island. You promised to stay. Remember we are going to the detention center in Cuba together. Jonb is bringing us a knife in a cake to make the big breakaway.

 

[Freddie53]

Originally posted by MisterMark@Jun 24 2005, 03:06 PM
Your ISP as Net watchdog
By Declan McCullagh
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

The U.S. Department of Justice is quietly shopping around the explosive idea of requiring Internet service providers to retain records of their customers' online activities.

http://news.com.com/Your+ISP+as+Net+watchd...?tag=html.alert

[post=323806]Quoted post[/post]​

Yes, we really need to keep record of customers' online activities. Someone might download a picture of a penis from one of those "sites" and carry the picture on the plane and when the "picture swells" the plane will blow up. Yes, pictures of cock are dangerous. Very dangerous. China is threatning to drop a picture of a 17 1/2 year old dick over Taiwan if they don't agree to reunification. Nuclearn bombs are just little fire crakcers compared to pictures of dicks.

I didn't believe this at first, but then I checked with Dick Cheney. Dick owns stock in hard print porn and this internet stuff is hurting his profits. Dick assures me these stories are true.

 

[madame_zora]

Originally posted by Freddie53+Jun 25 2005, 07:39 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Freddie53 &#064; Jun 25 2005, 07:39 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora@Jun 24 2005, 06:55 PM
  What will really happen here if this passes is not that we will be further protected from terrorism, but it will make the police&#39;s job easier of giving out tickets for minor offenses to ordinary citizens. Here comes the fall of the Merkin empire&#33; More and more I want to crawl off to an island, turn off my computer, eat seaweed and get as far away from this country as I can before the shit hits the fan.

[post=323851]Quoted post[/post]​

Jana,

You can&#39;t crawl off to an island. You promised to stay. Remember we are going to the detention center in Cuba together. Jonb is bringing us a knife in a cake to make the big breakaway.

[post=323918]Quoted post[/post]​

[/b][/quote]


Okay, well THEN can we all crawl off to the island? I certainly don&#39;t want to miss the dramatic prison-break, but eventually I need to believe there will be a place less stupid. Oh yeah, we better take Jacinto to translate Spanish for us.

 

[Lex]

I&#39;m coming too (with my family). Seriously--they need to use find a better way to track dangerous online activities than to track EVERYONE&#39;S activities. Especially since, as Jana noted, the technology does even make adequate analysis possible. Idiots.

Its like No Child Left Behind--sounds great, gets people excited--impossible to properly implement.

*Sigh*

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

Originally posted by madame_zora@Jun 25 2005, 08:00 AM
Oh yeah, we better take Jacinto to translate Spanish for us.

Just learn the following two sentences and you&#39;ll do fine in Cuba:

¿Dónde están los hombres desnudos? ¡Queremos ver pingas masivas&#33;

 

[Freddie53]

Originally posted by Lex@Jun 25 2005, 04:46 AM
I&#39;m coming too (with my family). Seriously--they need to use find a better way to track dangerous online activities than to track EVERYONE&#39;S activities. Especially since, as Jana noted, the technology does even make adequate analysis possible. Idiots.

Its like No Child Left Behind--sounds great, gets people excited--impossible to properly implement.

*Sigh*

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Sorry you misquoted the federal act. Lex. The real title is "No Dick Left Behind" Millions of dollars are as we speak being spent on this for George, Dick, Donald and assorted others for "inhancement purposes." Colin Powel was kicked out of the project. The threshhold for character is quite low and our dear Colin just couldn&#39;t get his character score low enough to stay in this administration.

To get accepted into the program you must have contributed &#036;100,000 to the Bush campaign or Republican Party and have a certification that you have no character.
You must also show that you have committed at least one act that is contributing to the bankruptcy of the American Republic.

 

[Freddie53]

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper+Jun 25 2005, 09:43 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DoubleMeatWhopper &#064; Jun 25 2005, 09:43 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora@Jun 25 2005, 08:00 AM
Oh yeah, we better take Jacinto to translate Spanish for us.

Just learn the following two sentences and you&#39;ll do fine in Cuba:

¿Dónde están los hombres desnudos? ¡Queremos ver pingas masivas&#33;

[post=323961]Quoted post[/post]​

[/b][/quote]
What do the sentences say Jacinto? "My ass is virgin," and "My I suck your dick."

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

Originally posted by Freddie53+Jun 25 2005, 05:15 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Freddie53 &#064; Jun 25 2005, 05:15 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper@Jun 25 2005, 09:43 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora

@Jun 25 2005, 08:00 AM
Oh yeah, we better take Jacinto to translate Spanish for us.

Just learn the following two sentences and you&#39;ll do fine in Cuba:

¿Dónde están los hombres desnudos? ¡Queremos ver pingas masivas&#33;

[post=323961]Quoted post[/post]​

What do the sentences say Jacinto? "My ass is virgin," and "My I suck your dick."

[post=323991]Quoted post[/post]​

[/b][/quote]

"Where are the naked men? We want to see massive cocks&#33;"

 

[Freddie53]

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper+Jun 25 2005, 02:22 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DoubleMeatWhopper &#064; Jun 25 2005, 02:22 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by Freddie53@Jun 25 2005, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper@Jun 25 2005, 09:43 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora

@Jun 25 2005, 08:00 AM
Oh yeah, we better take Jacinto to translate Spanish for us.

Just learn the following two sentences and you&#39;ll do fine in Cuba:

¿Dónde están los hombres desnudos? ¡Queremos ver pingas masivas&#33;

[post=323961]Quoted post[/post]​

What do the sentences say Jacinto? "My ass is virgin," and "My I suck your dick."

[post=323991]Quoted post[/post]​

"Where are the naked men? We want to see massive cocks&#33;"

[post=324015]Quoted post[/post]​

[/b][/quote]
Close enough :evilgrin:

 

[DC_DEEP]

Of course we all need to realize that it is not just the ISPs that are getting "tasked" with collecting our info.

If any of you have been to a new health care provider of any kind since the "patriot act" was passed, you may have noticed a bit of different wording on the standard paperwork you fill out. I take that back; unless you are rententive about that sort of thing (like I am) you probably did NOT notice. They have all added a paragraph, in almost microscopic font, to inform you that your medical records are fair game for the feds, all in the name of national security. I kid you not. I ALWAYS strike through the paragraph, initial it, and write in a paragraph of my own stating that my information is to be released to no person, agency, or entity without my express written consent. Before I hand it over to the receptionist, I inform them of my corrections to their form, and inform them that any violations will be subject to legal action.

I&#39;m still fighting an ongoing battle with the Virginia DMV regarding the use of my social security number. They claim it is required, I claim it is not, and that as a state agency not involved with my income, they are in violation of the Privacy Act on several counts. They claim to fit the "grandfather" clause in the Privacy Act, but refuse to show me documentation.

Folks, it is not paranoia, our "federal" (look up the definition) government is becoming a totalitarian government. It is not a pretty sight. I&#39;m not just a little nervous about the progression of events, I am terrified. If EVERY citizen took nancy reagan&#39;s advice, and just said NO, our US government would have to listen to us. Unfortunately, much more than half our population are just playing the role of the sheep, blindly following.