Mr average

[kc2007]

I also think both sides of the argument are right to an extent, although obviously these are all just theories since no one will ever no for sure.

I think that more women have experienced larger than average penises than would correlate to how many are actually out there. So basically, if 5% of the population has say 7.5x5.5 inches or above, maybe 20% of all women have experienced this size or above skewing how many larger penises the average women might think are out there. With 2% being 8x6 and above, maybe 10% of women, and so on.

However, while bigger guys might end up sleeping with more women, I don't feel guys with average or slightly smaller than average hard-ons are less confident or don't seek out women to sleep with. Most women who've slept with a few people have experienced a really small penis and average penises.

Women who seek out large penises really shouldn't be factored in to what women believe the average is because they already know what the average is probably having experienced it and smaller, hence they seek out larger knowing they enjoy them more for whatever reason.

With that said, I think BOTH men and women because of the porn and sites like this, tend to think there are more larger ones out there than there are. But most non deluded people still realize what the average is.

 

[paigexox]

There's actually an interesting term that goes along with this that I think many members of this site (myself included) become victim to;

Illusory Correlation: when people believe they are seeing co-occurences with great frequency (i.e. women + wanting big partners or big dick + many sexual partners), even when the two events are occurring randomly, and thus, do not occur more frequently than any other combination of events.

opcorn:

 

[Incocknito]

Women are choosing to have more sexual partners. Statistically the more partners you have the more likely you will encounter something out of the ordinary or "above average".

Also penis size does not factor into a woman's decision to have sex with someone. The biggest factor is confidence.

Some people tie confidence to their penis but most don't. Confidence is mainly created (or not) by events in childhood / adolescence.

So guys with "smaller dicks" are just as likely to have a lot of partners as people with "bigger dicks". In fact average and smaller guys are out there doing most of the fucking.

Because more men are average or below statistically. Therefore a greater number of those will be confident and 'popular' with the ladies.

Not every man with a big dick is a stud. There are shy, introverted men with big dicks. There are guys with big dicks who have morals, guys with big dicks who wait for marriage, etc.

So it is ludicrous to think that every man who is sleeping with a high number of women has a massive dick.

 

[KTF40]

So it is ludicrous to think that every man who is sleeping with a high number of women has a massive dick.

Is this directed towards me? I'm not making that claim. Nobody is making that claim.

Some people tie confidence to their penis but most don't. Confidence is mainly created (or not) by events in childhood / adolescence.

So guys with "smaller dicks" are just as likely to have a lot of partners as people with "bigger dicks".

In making this statement, you are completely dismissing confidence and insecurity issues that smaller guys have due to their size.

EDIT: Actually you are not lol. My bad. Missed the tie in line. But still, the idea that "some people" tie confidence will still have an impact on the overall results. In that case you can probably ignore the next three paragraphs.

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Look at the first page which currently has topics like, "my negative disposition", "scared of urinals", "most humiliating small penis memory", etc. You ever seen topics like that made by guys with big dicks on this forum?

Have you ever visited any sites that specialize in small penises? You ever noticed the difference in the general outlook those man have towards their penis compared to many of the attitudes expressed on this site by "bigger guys"? You ever notice the general lack of confidence that is exhibited?

And this isn't to say every guy who has a small dick is miserable and depressed, but this is clearly an issue in the small penis community that does not exist at the same level in the big dick community.

And to be clear in this thread with my position, I'm not saying guys with big dicks have more sexual partners than average sized guys. But, I think it's quite reasonable to assume guys with big dicks have much more partners than smaller guys. They just don't have the negative obstacles that some smaller guys go through, plus the fact there is a demand for them, unlike smaller guys. Less mental obstacles + more demand = more sexual partners which skew the average

Also penis size does not factor into a woman's decision to have sex with someone.

Also this statement could be easily disproved with a quick visit to craisglist.

 

[boredsquirrel]

I like all your comments here, Paigexox :slomo:

 

[qwerty1234567]

And that's exactly why your thinking is flawed. Bringing "common sense" reasoning into a debate is as good as shooting yourself in the foot. Common sense, to put it bluntly, is nonsense.

Why? Because taken as an implicit "explanation" of behavior, common sense can't be refuted. No matter what happens, you can always cite a folk tidbit of knowledge called common sense to cover ANY situation:

If Time waits for no man then why does haste makes waste? Opposites attract but for some reason birds of a feather flock together. Absence makes the heart grow fonder but how can it if when: out of sight, out of mind... and so on.

"Common sense" contradicts itself, its subjective and personal, and changes over time -- yesterdays common sense is today's nonsense.

A female who is familiar with the bell curve, self-selection bias and apparently dislikes cliches and platitudes turns me the fuck on.

 

[qwerty1234567]

Just saw your pictures as well. Marry me. lol

 

[qwerty1234567]

That doesn't answer my question though.

I'm asking in general, do you really think guy's with smaller dicks are just as likely to have the same number of sexual partners as guy's with bigger dicks? You know, are little guys having the same amount of partners as bigger guys?

Do you not see that your entire argument is a strawman? Mr. average sets out to investigate the size of the human penis (I've been reviewing too much literature lately, lol). Not sexual success.
And to answer your question, I doubt penis size has anything to do with it. Reality is not to be found on bangbros.

 

[qwerty1234567]

Fascinating discussion in such a relatively short time. I quite liked the website. He points out a study that he thinks is one of the best but quite reasonably points out why the stated average may be an over-estimate. I agree with his caveats and with his statistical point about the difference between mean, median and mode (each of which are measures of averageness).

At first, I dismissed KFT40's claim that sexually well-experienced women would have had more experience of above average men than below average men. However, as a psychologist and as a sexologist, when he clarified further I can accept that he may have a point. An above averagely endowed man may have more confidence to be playing the field with the women who are also playing the field. It doesn't apply to all or even most women necessarily but to a subset of the population. As much larger penises become increasingly rare in comparison to the average range then I don't think the bias is actually very significant. Thus, all posts so far may have it right to some extent.

Penis size shouldn't matter from an objective point of view. Bigger is not better. Nevertheless, there is a long historical view that since a penis defines you as a man, a large penis makes you more of a man. This is cultural mythology, a psychological con trick, bullshit, - but it is deeply ingrained in society and for many men (and much fewer women) size does matter. The fact that I and other sexologists say that it shouldn't matter doesn't change much - if anything at all. Objective reality usually loses to subjective feelings. Added to which, this site is dedicated to those who have problems with being possessors of large penises but is more likely to be filled by people for whom the myth is firmly entrenched.


Mr Average's site is correct in extolling the wisdom of regarding average as ideal.

Ironic you mention that. In ancient Greece, it was the opposite. A small penis was views as divine.

 

[basincreek]

On the other hand you have guys that are small that don't seem to realize it. Maybe the first time a woman turns them down and tells them to hit the road they'll realize it. But how many partners does he go through to get there?

 

[B_subgirrl]

On the other hand you have guys that are small that don't seem to realize it. Maybe the first time a woman turns them down and tells them to hit the road they'll realize it. But how many partners does he go through to get there?

And guys who are average that don't seem to realise it :biggrin1:

 

[basincreek]

Touche.

 

[Sevenpointsix]

Good to see a good debate has come from this thread, I do understand that people will think that having a bigger penis will increase sexual partners due to those men having more confidence. Using myself as example though I'm according to the mr average site above average but this doesn't give me any extra confidence I still feel average. So with me it hasn't made any difference with sexual partners.

 

[bassman70]

Is this directed towards me? I'm not making that claim. Nobody is making that claim.


In making this statement, you are completely dismissing confidence and insecurity issues that smaller guys have due to their size.

EDIT: Actually you are not lol. My bad. Missed the tie in line. But still, the idea that "some people" tie confidence will still have an impact on the overall results. In that case you can probably ignore the next three paragraphs.

Have you ever visited this site? small-X-change (Topic list) - Measurection - Discussing Man at Length - Small Penis Forum - Powered by FusionBB

Look at the first page which currently has topics like, "my negative disposition", "scared of urinals", "most humiliating small penis memory", etc. You ever seen topics like that made by guys with big dicks on this forum?

Have you ever visited any sites that specialize in small penises? You ever noticed the difference in the general outlook those man have towards their penis compared to many of the attitudes expressed on this site by "bigger guys"? You ever notice the general lack of confidence that is exhibited?

And this isn't to say every guy who has a small dick is miserable and depressed, but this is clearly an issue in the small penis community that does not exist at the same level in the big dick community.

And to be clear in this thread with my position, I'm not saying guys with big dicks have more sexual partners than average sized guys. But, I think it's quite reasonable to assume guys with big dicks have much more partners than smaller guys. They just don't have the negative obstacles that some smaller guys go through, plus the fact there is a demand for them, unlike smaller guys. Less mental obstacles + more demand = more sexual partners which skew the average


Also this statement could be easily disproved with a quick visit to craisglist.

You make a very strong point, and I lean towards your view.

 

[sandiasky9]

I ONLY have anecdotal "evidence." But I have worked in office settings for twenty years often the only male of twenty type of situations and with empathy as a strong suit I am that "safe" guy to talk to, you know, the male friend (without benefits - argh, ha ha).
Guys with big willies skew the average charts up big time, pun intended. If the size charts say __ is average and __ this is the mean and puts percentages to each size segment said chart would be of value to a guy just wanting/needing to know how he stacks ups in the penis size department.
BUT, his female lovers actual experience will very, very likely be different than the charts.
For example, if a woman "should" experience a large dude (the top ten sizes grouped as needed to make up ten percent) once if she has had ten partners she will have had at least three.
It makes me giggle to hear them, the woman, talk sometimes. They will be very supportive and provide sound advice for the typical complaint about a relationship along lines of "you treated me so much better in the first few months but lately I feel he is taking me for granted." Each time, every time it has come up as in 100%, no exceptions... "he thinks he is all that just because he has an enormous penis and sometimes he just makes me so mad because...." The tone of responses still helpful but they sure want details that are not just about the emotional feelings.
I have gotten to know guys that are lucky enough to be massively endowed and geez do they get referrals. Many have even went so far as to want to go to an different club with me to have some fun just so that the "chase" will be a challenge (if we go to a club that he has "snagged" a couple women and bedded then his reputation will eliminate the fun of the hunt, the having to "win" a woman over with dancing, chat and being fun).
Also, I though white for whatever reason most of my buddies are African-american... another anecdotal only in claim by me deal here about the charts and actual experience, and on way too many occasions for me to think there is nothing to it I have been told by admittedly normally endowed buddies that they don't even bother trying to date white woman given the expectation while time after time I go to pick up an African-american buddy that is known to be "the dude" to woman on a Saturday morning to go do whatever we going to do and there is some lady slinking out of his apartment as I arrive looking deeply tired and satisfied.

 

[alx]

The stats seem to be wrong, I think that site is trying to make huge guys feel like they are more huge than they actually are.

I mean according to that I'm in the top 0.5% for length and girth, so that combination means I'd be less that 0.5% overall.

Think it's very optimistic tbh.

 

[qwerty1234567]

You make a very strong point, and I lean towards your view.

It's weak and flawed. Wiki confirmation bias.

 

[KTF40]

Do you not see that your entire argument is a strawman?

Not really, because I'm not saying the results provided by mr average are wrong.

Mr. average sets out to investigate the size of the human penis (I've been reviewing too much literature lately, lol). Not sexual success.

I'm fully aware of that. And none of that information refutes my point.

And to answer your question, I doubt penis size has anything to do with it. Reality is not to be found on bangbros.

I'm not using bangbros to support my argument. I'm not even using porn.

(On a sidenote though, porn would actually support my argument even more because of all the sites out there dedicated to women having sex with big dicks while there really aren't many sites at all dedicated to women having sex with small dicks. Plus, most porn performers are generally above average size wise. Thus skewing the results even further, however small that impact may be on the grand scheme of things.)

 

[qwerty1234567]

Not really, because I'm not saying the results provided by mr average are wrong.

That's not what a strawman argument purports.

I'm not using bangbros to support my argument. I'm not even using porn.

(On a sidenote though, porn would actually support my argument even more because of all the sites out there dedicated to women having sex with big dicks while there really aren't many sites at all dedicated to women having sex with small dicks. Plus, most porn performers are generally above average size wise. Thus skewing the results even further, however small that impact may be on the grand scheme of things.)

No, it doesn't support your argument. Porn is dedicated to fulfilling male fantasies, and don't take women into account. It's guys with large penis fucking good looking women, and it is certainly a fantasy of men to have a large penis and to fuck all the good looking women they can based on superficial attributes like penis size.

 

[KTF40]

No, it doesn't support your argument. Porn is dedicated to fulfilling male fantasies, and don't take women into account. It's guys with large penis fucking good looking women, and it is certainly a fantasy of men to have a large penis and to fuck all the good looking women they can based on superficial attributes like penis size.

How do you not understand that skews the results? In order to even things out, there would have to be just as many women who do some sort of porn where they fuck guys with 2-5 inch dicks. That just doesn't exist.

Porn actresses alone skew the results because it is basically their job to fuck guys with above average to large endowments. However, as stated before, I think this has only a small impact on the overall impact because there aren't many porn actresses and confidence, insecurity, and demand play a bigger role.