Mr. Maxcox's Adventure in the Phantom Zone

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Ignoring for a second I gave both his positive and negative attributes, thus providing a balance of his posting and somewhat negating your description of "over the top", max's reasons for not having pictures - I believe he stated them - were for professional reasons, as well as not wanting a permanent record of himself on the internet. I am the exact same way. For the sake of my job and by the off chance someone who knows me might stumble across this website, I choose the safest route possible of protecting myself. Call it LPSG abstinence :redface:.

In regards to ignoring max, lets be clear here: in the post in which he and spybot get into it, spybot makes a comment about "stupid American who believe in conspiracy theories". Everyone else lets it go, because for the most part, people regard conspiracy theories as rather far-fetched and thus the people that believe them can sometimes be described as stupid. It was not an attack on all Americans. It was a clumsily worded insult against a group who choose to believe their own fantasies in the face of evidence and facts. Max, like he so often does, chose to derail the thread and begin his usual tactic of quoting sentence for sentence each post of spybot's and from there the thread descended completely off-topic even for those who wished to stay on the OP vein. I don't want to ignore him, because he does post good material. On the other hand, I shouldn't have to put up with him derailing every thread he wishes because he chooses to have vendettas against posters.

This is par for the course. On threads such as these, he is not a positive contributor towards this site, he is nothing but a bully.

Max and I got into it in another thread, in which he repeatedly insulted the OP, calling him a liar. Many people were enjoying the thread. Finally several people noted Max's behavior, including myself. He instantly derided me as a "child" and from there there when I attempted to sensibly debate him, attempted to belittle me for my age and use profane language and threatened to report me, even though he was the person originally harassing the original poster. The thread was locked, Max, myself and several other posters were warned that our behavior was unacceptable. It seems only Max has continued to behave the in the manner we were warned of, justifying my negative claims.

I'm just saying, he was banned for several reasons and the descriptors I used to describe him are some of those reasons.
 

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Sure isn't the same without Max being around. Maybe they will let him back in early.
Personally, I think he got a raw deal.
 

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Having read this forum for a while I have noticed several things about maxcok:

1. He makes well-thought out posts that are often helpful and insightful. He is obviously a very intelligent individual and it shows when making such contributions. He also enjoys witty banter with many of the posters on this site. If this was all he contributed, he'd be one of my favorite people on here.

2. He is also an immature, childish, hypocritical, thin-skinned internet tough guy. He will post and post, derailing topic after topic just to have the last word on an internet forum as if this somehow makes him the bigger man. He insults other people constantly and then when they call him out and insult him back, he claims harassment and threatens to report them (like a little kid running to mommy). Finally, he calls people out for being liars, on not having pics or for faking pics, then makes claims about himself WITHOUT EVER POSTING A SINGLE PICTURE OF HIMSELF. Now, I understand his reasons for not posting pictures. It's the same reason I don't post them. But I would never call someone else out - except Max in this case - for not having them or for posting a pic that may not be themselves or for telling a story I don't believe when I myself won't even back up who I am with any real evidence.

I think that some of you who have been here a while defend him because you are his friend and avert your eyes from his negative attributes.
All in all, I can assume he was banned not for one particular incident, but because he has been warned about his behavior on several occasions and did nothing to clean it up.

Ignoring for a second I gave both his positive and negative attributes, thus providing a balance of his posting and somewhat negating your description of "over the top", max's reasons for not having pictures - I believe he stated them - were for professional reasons, as well as not wanting a permanent record of himself on the internet. I am the exact same way. For the sake of my job and by the off chance someone who knows me might stumble across this website, I choose the safest route possible of protecting myself. Call it LPSG abstinence :redface:.

In regards to ignoring max, lets be clear here: in the post in which he and spybot get into it, spybot makes a comment about "stupid American who believe in conspiracy theories". Everyone else lets it go, because for the most part, people regard conspiracy theories as rather far-fetched and thus the people that believe them can sometimes be described as stupid. It was not an attack on all Americans. It was a clumsily worded insult against a group who choose to believe their own fantasies in the face of evidence and facts. Max, like he so often does, chose to derail the thread and begin his usual tactic of quoting sentence for sentence each post of spybot's and from there the thread descended completely off-topic even for those who wished to stay on the OP vein. I don't want to ignore him, because he does post good material. On the other hand, I shouldn't have to put up with him derailing every thread he wishes because he chooses to have vendettas against posters.

This is par for the course. On threads such as these, he is not a positive contributor towards this site, he is nothing but a bully.

Max and I got into it in another thread, in which he repeatedly insulted the OP, calling him a liar. Many people were enjoying the thread. Finally several people noted Max's behavior, including myself. He instantly derided me as a "child" and from there there when I attempted to sensibly debate him, attempted to belittle me for my age and use profane language and threatened to report me, even though he was the person originally harassing the original poster. The thread was locked, Max, myself and several other posters were warned that our behavior was unacceptable. It seems only Max has continued to behave the in the manner we were warned of, justifying my negative claims.

I'm just saying, he was banned for several reasons and the descriptors I used to describe him are some of those reasons.

You state that Max is a bully, did you follow TOS and report that? Or wait till he is not here?

Hmm, March 2011, 33 posts too.

Are you a returnee?
 

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Not even really a returnee. I had an account, just never posted. I can't even tell you the name, as I just stayed logged in. I had it cancelled and started a real account. Dunno, just seemed like the right way to start things.

"This is par for the course. On threads such as these, he is not a positive contributor towards this site, he is nothing but a bully."

For the record, I am saying only on certain threads is this the case.

I also don't believe that it is necessary to involve "the authorities" as most of us are adults and can follow the rules or resolve our differences in a respectful manner. I didn't report him, but I can see why he was banned. There are rules the site's members are supposed to follow. Both max and I broke them at one point. I heeded the warning, he did not.

I honestly just saw this thread on the side of my screen and thought I'd give my two cents on why he was banned. To me it was pretty obvious.
 

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Having read this forum for a while I have noticed several things about maxcok:

1. He makes well-thought out posts that are often helpful and insightful. He is obviously a very intelligent individual and it shows when making such contributions. He also enjoys witty banter with many of the posters on this site. If this was all he contributed, he'd be one of my favorite people on here.

2. He is also an immature, childish, hypocritical, thin-skinned internet tough guy. He will post and post, derailing topic after topic just to have the last word on an internet forum as if this somehow makes him the bigger man. He insults other people constantly and then when they call him out and insult him back, he claims harassment and threatens to report them (like a little kid running to mommy). Finally, he calls people out for being liars, on not having pics or for faking pics, then makes claims about himself WITHOUT EVER POSTING A SINGLE PICTURE OF HIMSELF. Now, I understand his reasons for not posting pictures. It's the same reason I don't post them. But I would never call someone else out - except Max in this case - for not having them or for posting a pic that may not be themselves or for telling a story I don't believe when I myself won't even back up who I am with any real evidence.

I think that some of you who have been here a while defend him because you are his friend and avert your eyes from his negative attributes.

All in all, I can assume he was banned not for one particular incident, but because he has been warned about his behavior on several occasions and did nothing to clean it up.

Very well said, I couldn't agree more.
 

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Maxcok is by no shape or form a "bully".
He's highly opinionated just like everyone else on this board. But unlike many people, he backs up what he says with staunchly formed arguments that the intellectually meek simply cannot handle. If he lobs an insult, it is because the person talking to him tried to do the same thing, whether it be deliberate or cloaked. Even if he doesn't have a photo of himself on this board, he comes off being more real than lots of other folks with their verification pics showing various bits of currency or soda cans on their dicks... as if that's supposed to mean what you say has more relevance than someone who actually does think before they type.

It's pretty shystee that some people are now trying to use this opportunity to try and derail his character when he can't defend himself. That speaks volumes.
 
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Maxcok is by no shape or form a "bully".
He's highly opinionated just like everyone else on this board. But unlike many people, he backs up what he says with staunchly formed arguments that the intellectually meek simply cannot handle. If he lobs an insult, it is because the person talking to him tried to do the same thing, whether it be deliberate or cloaked. Even if he doesn't have a photo of himself on this board, he comes off being more real than lots of other folks with their verification pics showing various bits of currency or soda cans on their dicks... as if that's supposed to mean what you say has more relevance than someone who actually does think before they type.

It's pretty shystee that some people are now trying to use this opportunity to try and derail his character when he can't defend himself. That speaks volumes.

For the record, I told maxcok exactly how I felt about him as directly as one can on an internet forum. I also lauded his positive attributes as well, so I don't feel I am derailing his character. In fact, everyone on here who has spoken negatively of him has really just given the reason as to why he was banned, including myself.

And you are simply wrong about him only insulting people who strike first. He would not be banned if this were true. He seeks out arguments where there are none. Perhaps his initial insults are more veiled than most, but they are there.

Basically, what you are saying is he picks on those who are intellectually inferior to himself. I would say this is bullying.

I think, as I said above, you are wearing "maxcok tinted shades" in regards to his behavior. But agree to disagree.
 

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Maxcok is by no shape or form a "bully".
He's highly opinionated just like everyone else on this board. But unlike many people, he backs up what he says with staunchly formed arguments that the intellectually meek simply cannot handle. If he lobs an insult, it is because the person talking to him tried to do the same thing, whether it be deliberate or cloaked. Even if he doesn't have a photo of himself on this board, he comes off being more real than lots of other folks with their verification pics showing various bits of currency or soda cans on their dicks... as if that's supposed to mean what you say has more relevance than someone who actually does think before they type.

It's pretty shystee that some people are now trying to use this opportunity to try and derail his character when he can't defend himself. That speaks volumes.


Well bloody said, VB.
 

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For the record, I told maxcok exactly how I felt about him as directly as one can on an internet forum. I also lauded his positive attributes as well, so I don't feel I am derailing his character. In fact, everyone on here who has spoken negatively of him has really just given the reason as to why he was banned, including myself.

And you are simply wrong about him only insulting people who strike first. He would not be banned if this were true. He seeks out arguments where there are none. Perhaps his initial insults are more veiled than most, but they are there.

An insult isn't something that is only directed to one person. I can't tell you how many times people initially make statements that unfairly target or judge others, especially in the Politics forums. Revisiting the thread link provided earlier by chicagosam, it's not really clear as to why he was banned since the other person he was arguing with was just as inflammatory and insulting, if not worse. There's probably more to the story since mini flame wars like that are abundant on LPSG.

Basically, what you are saying is he picks on those who are intellectually inferior to himself. I would say this is bullying.

That's not what I said. Don't twist my statements. :rolleyes:
Like maxcok, I don't assume that anyone on this board is intellectually inferior. The fact that we're on a website like this shows that we're not your average bunch of penis stalkers on the internet. We're also supposed to be adults, which gives me the impression that people are supposed to know what they're talking about. Maybe some people don't have the full story on an issue and that's fine. Everyone makes mistakes. But when you know someone is telling an untruth and is determined to pass that as doctrine at the expense of other people's intellect, that rubs some people the wrong way. Sometimes, that's also compounded with the knowledge that someone's misinformation is fueled with some kind of societal bias or veiled bigotry. That also causes problems. I could go on, but I think you follow what I'm saying. Maybe it's too much to ask for debates around here to have an "Intelligence Squared" level feel to them, but one can only dream sometimes.

I think, as I said above, you are wearing "maxcok tinted shades" in regards to his behavior. But agree to disagree.

I tell it exactly as I see it. Nobody on this board is an icon of sainthood by any stretch of the imagination. Well, maybe Nick8, BBucko, Calboner and OCMuscJock and that's a different story that requires me to tap into my inner lusting for hot, hunky intellectual men... mmmmmmmmmmm. But I digress!!!! :redface:

With all of the people on this board who are real problems, I think maxcok is one of the least of anyone's worries. People are going to dislike someone for whatever reason, and it's not my responsibility to change their minds. But regardless of where you stand, I feel like some of the responses directed at him during his temporary absence are unwarranted.
 
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Having read this forum for a while I have noticed several things about maxcok:

1. He makes well-thought out posts that are often helpful and insightful. He is obviously a very intelligent individual and it shows when making such contributions. He also enjoys witty banter with many of the posters on this site. If this was all he contributed, he'd be one of my favorite people on here.

2. He is also an immature, childish, hypocritical, thin-skinned internet tough guy. He will post and post, derailing topic after topic just to have the last word on an internet forum as if this somehow makes him the bigger man. He insults other people constantly and then when they call him out and insult him back, he claims harassment and threatens to report them (like a little kid running to mommy). Finally, he calls people out for being liars, on not having pics or for faking pics, then makes claims about himself WITHOUT EVER POSTING A SINGLE PICTURE OF HIMSELF. Now, I understand his reasons for not posting pictures. It's the same reason I don't post them. But I would never call someone else out - except Max in this case - for not having them or for posting a pic that may not be themselves or for telling a story I don't believe when I myself won't even back up who I am with any real evidence.

I think that some of you who have been here a while defend him because you are his friend and avert your eyes from his negative attributes.

All in all, I can assume he was banned not for one particular incident, but because he has been warned about his behavior on several occasions and did nothing to clean it up.
I completely agree with 2. He's part of a group that likes to gang up on people.
 

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{snip}I tell it exactly as I see it. Nobody on this board is an icon of sainthood by any stretch of the imagination. Well, maybe Nick8, BBucko, Calboner and OCMuscJock and that's a different story that requires me to tap into my inner lusting for hot, hunky intellectual men... mmmmmmmmmmm. But I digress!!!! :redface:

With all of the people on this board who are real problems, I think maxcok is one of the least of anyone's worries. People are going to dislike someone for whatever reason, and it's not my responsibility to change their minds. But regardless of where you stand, I feel like some of the responses directed at him during his temporary absence are unwarranted.{snip}

Gee, VinylBoy... I'm not sure if I'm hurt because I'm not mentioned with those worthy of sainthood or if it's because I'm not mentioned as a "hot, hunky intellectual man". LOL. But that's not why I posted this.

I wanted to bump your last paragraph. I don't think even you can disagree with VinylBoy's statement there, JDD86. If your commentary is true to your beliefs, you don't believe ganging up on someone is right. I'm not saying you're wrong in posting your opinion about why he was banned, but surely someone possessing an innate sense of fairness (such as you evidently do) would have dealt just as matter-of-factly and just as directly with the rest of the guys now piling into the scrum and kicking the man.
 

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Gee, VinylBoy... I'm not sure if I'm hurt because I'm not mentioned with those worthy of sainthood or if it's because I'm not mentioned as a "hot, hunky intellectual man". LOL. But that's not why I posted this.

There's only so many hot men I can list in one post, dear. A dainty, little flower like myself can't risk looking like a harlot, ya know. However, I will welcome any and all attempts from exceptional men to become more in tune with my inner slut. :biggrin1:
 
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Sorry to hear that Maxcock got banned. I hope it's temporary and I hope he condescends to return to the board. His posts in many and varied threads are always well reasoned and interesting, but he ain't a cactus for nothing! Yes he's prickly but I don't believe he's abusive, at least in the thread Decorating with Dick, where I felt he was persecuted by someone with an agenda from another thread.

(Speaking of which...)

I have noticed that he (Max) will track down and expose those claiming straight credentials but who seem, shall we say, hypocritical in their social uses of LPSG. Seriously, I don't think it's anybody's business how people choose to self-identify. It's just the same as a person choosing not to post pictures on the site. People have their reasons, some of which become pretty obvious too.

If I may be slightly critical of Maxcock in his absence, I think too often enjoyable threads get derailed and hijacked by a tit for tat argument, that by definition is not entirely Max's fault, and in the case at hand was not started by him, but he will have the last word. Sadly the other (on topic) participants of these threads give up and go home. It could be this behavior that the Mods are acting to discourage. I would suggest that these off topic arguments get taken to private messaging in future.

Still, I am looking forward to Max's return and his vital, (vigorous?) contributions.
 

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Hey, he's like anyone else. Occasionally he comes off as a prick but from my point of view as an observer most of the time he's calling people out on their lies or attempts to shade the truth or just catching them in the act of bullying. I'm sure a few of his posts seem a tad harsh but the truth hurts. That is just my view of it. I'm nit a moderator nor have I been around long enough to say something isn't so. That being said I'm sure he will be back and I look forward to his return. His comments are always enjoyable.
 

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they should of made him a moderator. He is usually right about questioning the authenticity of many pictures on here. The guy that allows the verification doesn't really seem to care if something is photo-shopped of fake. Maxxcock did, so make him a moderator people!
 

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The worst thing I could say about max is that he doesn't suffer fools gladly, and I haven't got a problem with that at all.

He's a smart, informed guy, and I don't get a truly "angry edge" vibe from him, unlike from one or two other members around here.
 
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