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Also find it funny that you can post one liners calling people names and then say “next” and that’s considered “contributing” but I can’t ask for people to move to a separate place to discuss something that belongs in the politics section of the forum. Then you assume I’m white and that I believe everything revolves around me because I’m apparently white.. OKAYYYYY THENNNN
It doesn't need to move. This topic is about Rogan. It's relevant. Now the N-word argument and who gets a pass, sure. Maybe but it's all stemmed from Rogan and it's perfectly valid. I'm fine with ending it here though. We're all at a standstill but as long as people respect the valid criticisms against Rogan, we'll have no issue.

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See this is a problem people who arguing about a black person not wanting to apologize Rogan for his words. And expecting actual real actions from him. The fact a mixed race (as he says) is going on and on for us to apologize him and not trying to understand us. Saying everybody said the n words or is homophobic, because it was a different times.

First of all no it was not a different time 2012, 2015, 2016 and his likes from 2019 is not 1950. If the Spice Girls could talk and argue against Black Face in the 90's, why would Rogan think it's natural to say the n words so many times and laugh about it, in real life and on Twitter.

Secondly you can go back in my post about 10 or 15 days ago when I specifically said Rogan was fake and had a whole brand new persona on camera between Ex On The Beach and The Challenge and how the old Rogan was still appearing on his social media from time to time.

Thirdly you can apologize to him if you want but no matter how many time you brass air telling me to be lenient toward him or anyone on the matter who has had racist and or homophobic behavior just because they apologized and used their PR to find a quick associations to donate money and said BLM twice in their life. Sorry Mary but I won't be buy like that. I need real actions.
And yes Rogan is trash, those women are trash, Jordan is trash.

jesus christ, it was a different time yes lol... for him, maybe not because I guess he lives in a city and was old enough... but social media wasn't as big and many white people had little to no exposure to POC back then... maybe let's give people a chance to realize their mistakes?
 

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so personally... I live in NYC and back then I heard almost everyone use the N word... not in a negative way and not many white people, but latino, asian, brown... all that... it just wasn't as big a deal to use it as a "friend" thing back then... but if the story about him saying it aggressively to someone in a club is true, he can die... that happens to my best friend when we were out once and I messed the dude up pretty bad and hope I never see him again
 

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jesus christ, it was a different time yes lol... for him, maybe not because I guess he lives in a city and was old enough... but social media wasn't as big and many white people had little to no exposure to POC back then... maybe let's give people a chance to realize their mistakes?
The real issue here is that Dee and Taylor Selfridge aren't given a chance to realize their mistakes because they get fired. Taylor got fired for past racist tweets from a long time ago, just like Rogan except no punishment is being given out to Rogan. And no punishment is given out to Jordan who mocked a black woman with monkey noises and called her the N-word.

Dee and Taylor's firings were a publicity stunt. It was performative but when it comes to their fan faves, they'll look the other way. Maybe Dee deserved hers but they made the mistake of firing Taylor because now they're going to look like they're playing favorites when they don't keep that energy with cast members like Rogan and Jordan.
 

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The real issue here is that Dee and Taylor Selfridge aren't given a chance to realize their mistakes because they get fired. Taylor got fired for past racist tweets from a long time ago, just like Rogan except no punishment is being given out to Rogan. And no punishment is given out to Jordan who mocked a black woman with monkey noises and called her the N-word.

Dee and Taylor's firings were a publicity stunt. It was performative but when it comes to their fan faves, they'll look the other way. Maybe Dee deserved hers but they made the mistake of firing Taylor because now they're going to look like they're playing favorites when they don't keep that energy with cast members like Rogan and Jordan.
On the Taylor thing she did one of the most disgusting thing by spitting on Alicia but that is fucked up that they aren't banning Jordan or Rogan like they did to Dee and Taylor
 

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jesus christ, it was a different time yes lol... for him, maybe not because I guess he lives in a city and was old enough... but social media wasn't as big and many white people had little to no exposure to POC back then... maybe let's give people a chance to realize their mistakes?
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The real issue here is that Dee and Taylor Selfridge aren't given a chance to realize their mistakes because they get fired. Taylor got fired for past racist tweets from a long time ago, just like Rogan except no punishment is being given out to Rogan. And no punishment is given out to Jordan who mocked a black woman with monkey noises and called her the N-word.

Dee and Taylor's firings were a publicity stunt. It was performative but when it comes to their fan faves, they'll look the other way. Maybe Dee deserved hers but they made the mistake of firing Taylor because now they're going to look like they're playing favorites when they don't keep that energy with cast members like Rogan and Jordan.
Taylor isn’t a racist but one thing she didn’t do was say she was sorry and from what I read she said she didn’t see anything wrong with her tweets while rogan did an he apologizes but ppl don’t see the differences just go quick to being maddd
 

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Taylor isn’t a racist but one thing she didn’t do was say she was sorry and from what I read she said she didn’t see anything wrong with her tweets while rogan did an he apologizes but ppl don’t see the differences just go quick to being maddd
Why are you defending Rogan? Lol
 

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On the Taylor thing she did one of the most disgusting thing by spitting on Alicia but that is fucked up that they aren't banning Jordan or Rogan like they did to Dee and Taylor
I agree that Taylor Selfish shown to the audience in AYTO and EOTB absolutely shows her disgusting, white-privileged, spoiled personality. Her comments about not caring if she actively sabotaged her season of AYTO because of her own family’s wealth also come to mind.

And while I fervently don’t support the social media comments that led to Dee’s firing and find them woefully ignorant/offensive, I agree that Dee’s firing of the Challenge is way more performative on Bunim-Murray/MTV’s behalf.

Dee’s apology, her IG support of her management pursuing an investigation on the matter and her own admitted dealings with racial insensitivity (do not read as me saying that other races are unable to be racist though) make me wonder if Dee should have been suspended vs outright fired.

It can be read as based on a completely subjective basis but in a very few cases, I think seeing contestants that have sought ways to be a better individual appearing back on TV can do good for bridging differences/showing change is possible. Perhaps that ultimately isn’t Dee but she sure is a better candidate than Taylor.

This article points out several different hypocrisies of other non-fired Challenge contestants aka when Bananas called Cheyenne “Chantelle” or Bear’s recent arrest of “suspicion of actual bodily harm” to a girlfriend. Perhaps that is why is wasn’t on the recent reunion but still no word on it from the PTB.

How MTV and The Challenge Butchered the Dee Nguyen Situation
 

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These guys are so stupid. Who comes up with those retarted prices, lol

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They would rather get 200$ from a people, who then feel cheated, rather than actually putting out good stuff and charging 5$ from thousands of people, that actually come back again, and tell other people how great their stuff is.

Dude has 650k IG followers. It makes more senses to charged 2-5 $ per month, and put out content with none of the BS up-sales. It’s all about the comeback.

Also when you piss off one customer, you also loose every customer that person has told your shit sucks. How many people either watch/don’t watch a movie based on someone else’s recommendation? I know I go scorched earth when I feel I have been screwed on a product or service.

Economics 101

Equilibrium: Where Supply and Demand Intersect
The equilibrium price is the only price where the desires of consumers and the desires of producers agree—that is, where the amount of the product that consumers want to buy (quantity demanded) is equal to the amount producers want to sell (quantity supplied).

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And that makes so much sense. I tried to tell an Onlyfans dude that and acted like he understood, but he still charge ridiculous prices. I'm like you can't tell me that people are consistently paying $150-200 for 1 pic or video.
 
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Not y’all wanna give Rogan a pass and not dee (but I still don’t agree with dee FWI)
Yeah I don't agree with Dee she was just trying to hard to get a call back for The Challenge it's actually quite sad that she was that desperate to be on reality tv
 

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No he isn’t a bad person everyone said the n word so don’t act like you haven’t at all in ur life simple as that
Did you just say.... Look just bc ur racist doesn't mean everyone else is to, stop projecting boo.
 

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Half black being the keywords, sis. It’s the other half of you that isn’t bothered by it but the black part of you should be outraged that someone who isn’t black or at the very least mixed, feels comfortable enough to say n*gga. Homeboy is white, so that word has no business coming out of his mouth. PERIOD
Period I'm mixed too and both of my half's think it's fucking sick (especially since I am black presenting)
 

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How am I racist lmao I’m mixed with black tf learn ur definitions please
You can be mixed and still be a self-hating racist and/or colorist. Personally, I don't think you're racist, you're just ignorant and like a lot of vapid gays, love to defend a trash guy you think is hot despite what he does.

TAYLOR DID NOT SPIT ON ALICIA BECAUSE SHE IS BLACK. How is that a racist act?!
Alicia herself said there was racist undertones behind it. And with Taylor's past it's not unbelievable. Are you going to try and diminish what the person who it actually happened to, a black woman, said/feels?