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She called herself the queen bee and everyone else the worker bees. She also said the season is gonna be a smooth sailing for her even if they come after her since she’s gonna win this season. That sounds like gloat/boast to me.

Regarding daddy Horacio, he knew everything she was saying to him is bs. You said it yourself that she’s the brains, yet she was trying to act like she wasn’t when she was talking to him. All while throwing her boys utb by putting it on them. Nothing Horacio could’ve done in that convo would not take the target off him which wasn’t even the point of her talking to him. She was hoping to make him believe she got nothing to do with him being put up (when she does) so he wouldn’t go after her if he comes back. And he’s not the only one she be doing that to. Big T and Melissa spoke about how she would do them like that.

Jay, Asaf, and Corey may be cringey villains. but they have won more challenges than Michele has. In fact, the mini final is her first win this season lol. And getting at them for hiding behind numbers when she’s doing the same thing is pretty unfair.

Unpopular opinion but this season is not as boring as it’s being made out to be. Every episode has some type of drama than last season did. Problem is the viewers want to see the vets that would do nothing that’s going on this season any different going on which is hide behind their numbers to skate to the final. I feel they’re being unfair.
she can brag & boast when its actually true. she is the queen. Thats the difference. She won the hardest challenge. They were all group challenges so no individual gets to take that much credit. Even Colleen has wins. Plus sometimes you deliberately throw them when you know you are safe. She didnt even need to speak with Horacio cause its clear they were never working together. she wasnt trying to pretend anything she was just trying to appease Olivia & Nurys cause they like Horacio. Just like she started to protect James cause of Moriah. If horacio said the right things she would at least not make him the prime target. Its give & take. Its a very complex situation cause she has so many to try keep happy. Jay just goes around having rash outbursts. he is way too emotional. michelle is the calm rational one who smoothes over his mess.
 
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she can brag & boast when its actually true. she is the queen. Thats the difference. She won the hardest challenge. They were all group challenges so no individual gets to take that much credit. Even Colleen has wins. Plus sometimes you deliberately throw them when you know you are safe. She didnt even need to speak with Horacio cause its clear they were never working together. she wasnt trying to pretend anything she was just trying to appease Olivia & Nurys cause they like Horacio. Just like she started to protect James cause of Moriah. If horacio said the right things she would at least not make him the prime target. Its give & take. Its a very complex situation cause she has so many to try keep happy. Jay just goes around having rash outbursts. he is way too emotional. michelle is the calm rational one who smoothes over his mess.
Gay men will make excuses for men but anything a woman does is hell to high water dont bother with gays like him.
 

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Michelle is the brains behind this season. she also shows humanity & doesnt gloat or over boast. she has tried to bridge divides cause I feel she has a sense of fair play. Like she tried to speak with Horacio but he just shooed her away in his usual stubborn lone wolf way. which isnt gonna help him ever win this show. His social game sucks. Jay, Asaf & Corey on the otherhand all just run their mouths like corny villains when they cant win sh*t. Acting like hiding behind numbers is a genius plan. Michelle is their puppetmaster. She deserves to be in the final cause she is the seasons ringmaster, she has won challenges & she won an elimination against a champ. She is becoming an all star.
Humanity? I loved her when she won Survivor but have hated her on The Challenge. She's awful. She thinks she deserves to win? They have turned this game into Big Brother. Biggest alliance dominates. Also hate people that throw team challenges. I wish the challenges were individual performance and the bottom person automatically went in.
 
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Humanity? I loved her when she won Survivor but have hated her on The Challenge. She's awful. She thinks she deserves to win? They have turned this game into Big Brother. Biggest alliance dominates. Also hate people that throw team challenges. I wish the challenges were individual performance and the bottom person automatically went in.
It's actually laughable that people think a big dominant alliance is a new thing on The Challenge.

It's been around since Coral and Veronica were the challenge queens back when it was the Real World/Road Rules Challenge. This is not a new concept. And no matter what Michele or Jay do, it'll never be good enough for the fans because they've already decided they're going to hate them even if they do prove themselves.
 

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It's actually laughable that people think a big dominant alliance is a new thing on The Challenge.

It's been around since Coral and Veronica were the challenge queens back when it was the Real World/Road Rules Challenge. This is not a new concept. And no matter what Michele or Jay do, it'll never be good enough for the fans because they've already decided they're going to hate them even if they do prove themselves.
The format now is extremely different. Previously you're alliance had to be strong competitors. Numbers alone couldn't dominate. I don't like that they are always split in large groups for team challenges. Allows much more production manipulation. I dislike Jay and Michelle for being hypocrites when people stand up to them or make the same moves they are making and they freak out. I also think they have both shown themselves by their comments to be just shitty people. It's why the fandom has turned on them.
 

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The format now is extremely different. Previously you're alliance had to be strong competitors. Numbers alone couldn't dominate. I don't like that they are always split in large groups for team challenges. Allows much more production manipulation. I dislike Jay and Michelle for being hypocrites when people stand up to them or make the same moves they are making and they freak out. I also think they have both shown themselves by their comments to be just shitty people. It's why the fandom has turned on them.
None of what they said is any worse than most challenge contestants. But in the fans eyes, they haven’t earned that. But the problem is, they’ll never be able to earn it because nothing will ever be good enough.

I don’t think think it makes them shitty people to play selfishly. They’re not even close to being that way. Cringy? I’d say so. Corny? Definitely. But arrogance has always been part of the show. It’s no different when other people do it, and this format isn’t any different from previous seasons like Dirty 30, Vendettas, or Total Madness.

For me personally, the worst format was Spies Lies and Allies. That actually hindered gameplay while the big alliance got away with skating to the end.

People can not like this current season. That’s fine. I find the season boring and most of the cast uninteresting. But people need to stop pretending like it’s any different from the shit shows we’ve been getting previously.

I honestly hope this show gets canceled after season 40. All these pointless spin offs and these silly documentary shows that no one asked for has been exhausting to keep up with and the show hasn’t improved at all because the production and casting has gone downhill.
 

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I don't understand the hate on Michelle. She is just playing the game, like anybody else could
People hated Veronica and Coral too. It’s just how it is in The Challenge fandom.
 

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Yesss!! I'm catching up now and that first episode I can't stop staring. He looks so good in those jeans.
I was like wait! Why CT got hips and ass lol them jeans was hugging that ass right. He shaped like someone baby mama
 

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I don't understand the hate on Michelle. She is just playing the game, like anybody else could
I feel she is actually very humble. she admits that her strength is the social game. In this latest ep she literally says she is not strong at the physical challenges & is worried about the individual challenges. She's actually not even as bad as she makes out. You can tell she is irritated by Jays emotional outbursts. But its like she has come to far with him at this point & doesnt wanna break up their dominant alliance.