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The House of Cards of starting to collapse.

Two points:

A.) I think this is why reptiles Ryan and McConnell want to very quickly implement the long sought after top-down agenda of cutting taxes so massively creating a sea of red ink that they could blame on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Cut those programs to the bone and eliminate them.

The Republicans Are What We Thought They Were

First, they pass tax cuts and run up the deficit. Then, they use the deficit to ‘prove’ spending is out of control, and start slashing entitlement programs.

B.) But yes the public is finally realizing the conman for what we all knew he was for the 71 years of his life. And they thought he would suddenly become "presidential" after moving to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Right. :scream:

Trump’s Numbers Near a Tipping Point

Things fell apart for Nixon when he dropped below 30 percent approval in his second term. Trump is getting there in his first year.

Particularly troublesome are rumours that Trump will fire Mueller during Congress's Christmas break. Good time to do something impeachable. When Congress returns all will be forgotten and forgiven. Something very big he is trying to hide.
 

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Two points:

A.) I think this is why reptiles Ryan and McConnell want to very quickly implement the long sought after top-down agenda of cutting taxes so massively creating a sea of red ink that they could blame on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Cut those programs to the bone and eliminate them.

The Republicans Are What We Thought They Were

First, they pass tax cuts and run up the deficit. Then, they use the deficit to ‘prove’ spending is out of control, and start slashing entitlement programs.

B.) But yes the public is finally realizing the conman for what we all knew he was for the 71 years of his life. And they thought he would suddenly become "presidential" after moving to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Right. :scream:

Trump’s Numbers Near a Tipping Point

Things fell apart for Nixon when he dropped below 30 percent approval in his second term. Trump is getting there in his first year.

Particularly troublesome are rumours that Trump will fire Mueller during Congress's Christmas break. Good time to do something impeachable. When Congress returns all will be forgotten and forgiven. Something very big he is trying to hide.
Two points:

A.) I think this is why reptiles Ryan and McConnell want to very quickly implement the long sought after top-down agenda of cutting taxes so massively creating a sea of red ink that they could blame on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Cut those programs to the bone and eliminate them.

The Republicans Are What We Thought They Were

First, they pass tax cuts and run up the deficit. Then, they use the deficit to ‘prove’ spending is out of control, and start slashing entitlement programs.

B.) But yes the public is finally realizing the conman for what we all knew he was for the 71 years of his life. And they thought he would suddenly become "presidential" after moving to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Right. :scream:

Trump’s Numbers Near a Tipping Point

Things fell apart for Nixon when he dropped below 30 percent approval in his second term. Trump is getting there in his first year.

Particularly troublesome are rumours that Trump will fire Mueller during Congress's Christmas break. Good time to do something impeachable. When Congress returns all will be forgotten and forgiven. Something very big he is trying to hide.
Now you are concerned about red ink? But Obama was so good on controlling the Federal budget deficit....
 

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Two points:

A.) I think this is why reptiles Ryan and McConnell want to very quickly implement the long sought after top-down agenda of cutting taxes so massively creating a sea of red ink that they could blame on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Cut those programs to the bone and eliminate them.

The Republicans Are What We Thought They Were

First, they pass tax cuts and run up the deficit. Then, they use the deficit to ‘prove’ spending is out of control, and start slashing entitlement programs.
Well, as I said before, this is the classic ---------- move on the part of Trump and his company of sycophants:

To sabotage something so they can claim it's failing.

Like depriving Obamacare of funding, depriving applicants of supplemental assistance, and killing the individual mandate, so that a p--------y like Ryan can stand there and say Obamacare is failing,

or like recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, so to stall the peace process, get Palestinians to act up, and rile up the Middle East... so Trump & Co. can, in turn, label Muslims "terrorists" and justify Muslim bans.
 

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Now you are concerned about red ink? But Obama was so good on controlling the Federal budget deficit....

He was given the whole economy was in shambles - given that W took a balanced budget and then put two wars on the credit card while cutting taxes IN WARTIME. Duh! The rate of the deficit was slowed dramatically by the time Obama left office - with approval ratings on his last day that still make Trump's "little guppy" go rigid. He provided insurance for 30 million, rebuilt the banks, stock market, insurance, and car industries as well as brought housing back to life and slashed the unemployment rate.
 

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Hillary did that all by herself... she’s still blaming everyone else.
Hillary was a bad candidate but I put more blame on the DNC for actively backing her instead of Sanders.

Rather than going for the biggest winning margin, they backed the Establishment pawn.
 

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Here's the thing. It's all well and good to talk about wholly objective investigators with no political leanings.

But if we limit ourselves to intelligent, informed, dedicated people who *don't* think Trump is a douchebag, there would be few left to serve in any branch of government--from either party.
 

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Here's the thing. It's all well and good to talk about wholly objective investigators with no political leanings.

But if we limit ourselves to intelligent, informed, dedicated people who *don't* think Trump is a douchebag, there would be few left to serve in any branch of government--from either party.
I agree with what you are saying and Trump can definitely be a douchebag.. it doesn’t make any sense to me the Mueller would pick half his staff that openly sent money to Clinton. If that was a grand juror that would be kicked off.. If Democrats can’t see that fact then I’m they are part of fringe lunatic left where there is no reasoning with them
 

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Again

HOW WAS HE SUPPOSED TO KNOW

DOJ policy is that thatand things like that are something you/he are NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO ASK!!!!

ALSO simply contributing to a particular party or candidate WOULD NOT get some one "kicked off" a jury
 

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Back to the point... as a former military officer, I put far greater confidence in Mueller's sense of 'fair play', honesty, and duty than I do in the current occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania.

Mueller led the FBI, served his country in uniform, and enjoys the support of Democrats and Republicans.
 

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Again

HOW WAS HE SUPPOSED TO KNOW

DOJ policy is that thatand things like that are something you/he are NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO ASK!!!!

ALSO simply contributing to a particular party or candidate WOULD NOT get some one "kicked off" a jury
Then you are basically saying that Mueller is clueless...Peter Strotz has been around for long time.. He was the one who changed the language for Comey so Hillary didn’t get indicted remember ???? Some coincidence that 8 investigators gave to Hillary none to Trump
 
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Well, as I said before, this is the classic ---------- move on the part of Trump and his company of sycophants:

To sabotage something so they can claim it's failing.

Like depriving Obamacare of funding, depriving applicants of supplemental assistance, and killing the individual mandate, so that a p--------y like Ryan can stand there and say Obamacare is failing,

or like recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, so to stall the peace process, get Palestinians to act up, and rile up the Middle East... so Trump & Co. can, in turn, label Muslims "terrorists" and justify Muslim bans.

Fox News will report the sabotage as "freedom and liberty" and when it collapses it will be evidence of socialism communism big society liberal failures. Win-win all around.
 
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Two points:

A.) I think this is why reptiles Ryan and McConnell want to very quickly implement the long sought after top-down agenda of cutting taxes so massively creating a sea of red ink that they could blame on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Cut those programs to the bone and eliminate them.

The Republicans Are What We Thought They Were

First, they pass tax cuts and run up the deficit. Then, they use the deficit to ‘prove’ spending is out of control, and start slashing entitlement programs.

B.) But yes the public is finally realizing the conman for what we all knew he was for the 71 years of his life. And they thought he would suddenly become "presidential" after moving to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Right. :scream:

Trump’s Numbers Near a Tipping Point

Things fell apart for Nixon when he dropped below 30 percent approval in his second term. Trump is getting there in his first year.

Particularly troublesome are rumours that Trump will fire Mueller during Congress's Christmas break. Good time to do something impeachable. When Congress returns all will be forgotten and forgiven. Something very big he is trying to hide.
#fakenews MSNBC had him at 41 %
 

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If you want to call it "clueless" fine

But you can not know things that you are NOT ALLOWED TO ASK ABOUT.

That is pretty basic idea that for what ever reason you just refuse to understand.

Maybe Peter Strotz has "been around a long time" even going back to when BM was FBI director but it is most likley the case that BM had "never heard of him" PS in the FBI was way down the "food chain" from BM I am sure he had never met him or talked to him during his time as FBI director but even on the odd chance he had, what his politics are/were who he gave money to and how much and how often were/are subjects that were not to be discussed so they were things that BM had no way of knowing about PS if he even knew him or of him.

BM was not even in Government during the time of the E-mail investigation so he would have no way of knowing what anyone PS or others did or did not do having to do with that.

When he DID learn things that were troubling he got rid of the guy.

What was he supposed to have done ??
 
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If you want to call it "clueless" fine

But you can not know things that you are NOT ALLOWED TO ASK ABOUT.

That is pretty basic idea that for what ever reason you just refuse to understand.

Maybe Peter Strotz has "been around a long time" even going back to when BM was FBI director but it is most likley the case that BM had "never heard of him" PS in the FBI was way down the "food chain" from BM I am sure he had never met him or talked to him during his time as FBI director but even on the odd chance he had, what his politics are/were who he gave money to and how much and how often were/are subjects that were not to be discussed so they were things that BM had no way of knowing about PS if he even knew him or of him.

BM was not even in Government during the time of the E-mail investigation so he would have no way of knowing what anyone PS or others did or did not do having to do with that.

When he DID learn things that were troubling he got rid of the guy.

What was he supposed to have done ??
BM?
 

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Bob Muellor = BM

It is thread about him

Who did you think it was ?

Who is clueless now ??
You've been giving it a good effort, but trying to have a discussion with b.b causes one to want to bash your head against the wall. Deep dives and nuance are anathema to him, you need to keep it simple. You get an A for effort.
 

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You've been giving it a good effort, but trying to have a discussion with b.b causes one to want to bash your head against the wall. Deep dives and nuance are anathema to him, you need to keep it simple. You get an A for effort.[/QUOT
You've been giving it a good effort, but trying to have a discussion with b.b causes one to want to bash your head against the wall. Deep dives and nuance are anathema to him, you need to keep it simple. You get an A for effort.
Naive at best to believe Mueller doesn’t know the political affiliations of the people he has hired