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What wade the “ insurance “ against the Trump presidency in the text? Then you have Weissmann supporting voicing praise for Sally Yates.. Then you have Bruce who was demoted for meeting with the author of the Trump dossier and who’s wife was worked for Fusion GPS..
 

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Where do we get the notion that investigators have to be unbiased?

FBI agents typically investigate known criminals. Of course they have a bias against such people--it would be troubling if they didn't. Nonetheless, they carry out their investigations professionally, knowing they have to build an evidenced-based case for it to stand up in court.

I don't know what Mueller's team has found. It may not make them particularly well-disposed toward Trump and his associates. But that doesn't preclude them doing their jobs in a thorough, professional manner.
 

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Where do we get the notion that investigators have to be unbiased?

FBI agents typically investigate known criminals. Of course they have a bias against such people--it would be troubling if they didn't. Nonetheless, they carry out their investigations professionally, knowing they have to build an evidenced-based case for it to stand up in court.

I don't know what Mueller's team has found. It may not make them particularly well-disposed toward Trump and his associates. But that doesn't preclude them doing their jobs in a thorough, professional manner.
I agree with everything you have said... you raise the point it has to be evidence based, at the same appearance of impartiality is important too. Are you a little curious what “ the insurance policy “ against Trump is?
 

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I agree with everything you have said... you raise the point it has to be evidence based, at the same appearance of impartiality is important too. Are you a little curious what “ the insurance policy “ against Trump is?

I'm more concerned about impartial judges and juries than I am about impartial investigators. As for this "insurance policy," if some new information is revealed, it will be subject to the same evidentiary standards as anything else.
 

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K.. and have you seen read anything that has concerned you.?

I'm concerned about the continual lying and covering up by the Trump administration. I'm concerned about their cozy ties with the Russians. And I'm concerned about cutting off the investigation before these issues are resolved.
 

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I'm concerned about the continual lying and covering up by the Trump administration. I'm concerned about their cozy ties with the Russians. And I'm concerned about cutting off the investigation before these issues are resolved.
From the Trump perspective?
 

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From the Trump perspective?

Trump may have any number of concerns about the investigation. If I were him, maybe I'd be worried, too.

But he's the president, with all three branches of the federal government on his side. He'll survive. And if he doesn't, what does that tell you?
 

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I’m not filled with rage it’s the Democrats who haven’t been able to accept the results of the election.. Its the George Soros funded events that are violent ...

I think you miss the point, friend. Democrats have accepted the results of the election; they have also accepted the fact Russia meddled in the election, the fact that the Trump Campaign met multiple times with Russians and Russian government officials and proceeded to lie about it, the fact that the President never released his tax returns (which could have proven he doesn't have secret financial ties with Russians close to Vladimir Putin), and the fact that during eight years of his presidency, Obama faced no scandals, no personal sexual assault allegations, no international embarrassments, and lost exactly ZERO of his cabinet and close support staff to criminal charges.

So you see, @Bigbailey12, Democrats, Independents (like me), and Republicans who put country before party acknowledge that the Electoral College put Donald Trump in the White House despite losing the popular vote by the largest margin in modern times, and because he is in the White House, we hold him to the same standards of conduct as other presidents. It is his rejection of those standards of conduct that concerns Democrats, Independents, and Republicans who put country before party. But we're not filled with rage, we're filled with determination to ensure this presidency is exposed and that the rule of law prevails and that the 'right thing' is done for the benefit of ALL Americans.

And good luck with your George Soros rants... you seem smart enough to realize that for every George Soros, there is a Koch brothers, a Rupert Murdoch, or a Sheldon Adelson quietly shoveling boatloads of money into the coffers of science-deniers, religious right whack jobs, and incompetent presidential candidates who brag about their history of sexual assaults.
 

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Spot on ColoradoGuy!

And let's not forget that the President, and his loyal staff and family, have repeatedly said there was/is no Russian collusion. IF they truly believe that, then they should welcome any investigation, as the results of said investigation(s) will prove their postion, no?

Now, let's talk Clinton/Benghazi. How many REPUBLICAN-led investigations have there been? Aren't we close to double-digits here? Where were your concerns then about impartiality of those investigators? Of the process itself?

Here's what the issue boils down to in the Russian Special Counsel investigation. Who comes to the table with more credibility? Robert Mueller (BM for short) or the Trump machine?

Unfortunately for the Trump machine, their repeated struggle with the truth is historic. It's been captured, over and over and over. And no amount of his or the teams repeated denial/deflecting/lies will change that.

Isn't it interesting that four people involved in the Trump election/transition/administration have been charged with crimes relating to what's been uncovered during the investigation so far? And that two of the four have plead to charges?

That's really where we are now BB. No amount of deflecting to "but what about" negates anything that has happened so far. Period. You can bet your bippy that when Mr. Mueller and his team present(ed) their charges to the Grand Jury, they have dotted their I's and crossed their T's. That's just the reality of the situation in hand, my friend.

Will more charges/pleas be forthcoming? Time will tell....