Jason, what you say is pretty disturbing - as far as I'm concerned, the legal framework is there.
It's shocking that some posters pour scorn on the exclusion of non-adherents, when you know they'd be up in arms about a homosexual being excluded from a fundamentalist Christian meeting!:smileletters sent, tweets tweeted, protests organized. I seem to remember that happening at a uni here - a gay man succesfully legally challenged his exclusion from election as chair of a Christian society.
I'd also point out again - for those that have missed the point - that these "closed" meetings are publically funded (facilities etc.) by everyone & not paid for by the group themselves - they are meant to be open to all - legally.
I've notice on this board that there seems to be no differentiation between racism lite, & radical fundamentalist racism, so why differentiate between active fundamentalist Muslims, & passive Muslims happy to let them have their way & use their resources?
It seems that support of certain views, or political movements, can be immediately boxed into a single issue reason of support, & even associate adherence classified as congenital racism - so why not apply those principles to Islamics, & call them all radical fundamentalists? It would be more consistent. ( though still just as laughable)
As if by magic, the normally apologist Channel 4 has a documentary next Monday @ 8PM Dispatches - "Lessons In Hate & Violence".
Dispatches goes undercover to investigate allegations that teachers regularly assault young children in some of the 2,000 Muslim schools in Britain run by Islamic organisations. The programme also follows up allegations that, behind closed doors, some Muslim secondary schools teach a message of hatred and intolerance.
Clips already seen include students beinh hit, & also taught that Hindus drink cows piss!
For those of us who've never been in a madrassa, this should be an eye opener.:wink:
? I never said they hadn't, but the number of Muslims in any Western country has been statistically insignificant pre 1950 (a point at which 90% of Americans were white, & overwhelmingly Christian).
Bloody hell! Where do you work that it's like that? Sounds like Leicester, or somewhere else in the Midlands. I don't think you'd get Indian Hindus or Sikhs sitting next to Muslims!
That's the problem - they shouldn't house (unless of course they can pay for it themselves) large numbers of immigrants from the same country in the same place anymore. It doesn't promote any understanding of each other.
The higher up the career rung - people have absolutely no choice but to mix - & bloody right too.
It's shocking that some posters pour scorn on the exclusion of non-adherents, when you know they'd be up in arms about a homosexual being excluded from a fundamentalist Christian meeting!:smileletters sent, tweets tweeted, protests organized. I seem to remember that happening at a uni here - a gay man succesfully legally challenged his exclusion from election as chair of a Christian society.
I'd also point out again - for those that have missed the point - that these "closed" meetings are publically funded (facilities etc.) by everyone & not paid for by the group themselves - they are meant to be open to all - legally.
I've notice on this board that there seems to be no differentiation between racism lite, & radical fundamentalist racism, so why differentiate between active fundamentalist Muslims, & passive Muslims happy to let them have their way & use their resources?
It seems that support of certain views, or political movements, can be immediately boxed into a single issue reason of support, & even associate adherence classified as congenital racism - so why not apply those principles to Islamics, & call them all radical fundamentalists? It would be more consistent. ( though still just as laughable)
As if by magic, the normally apologist Channel 4 has a documentary next Monday @ 8PM Dispatches - "Lessons In Hate & Violence".
Dispatches goes undercover to investigate allegations that teachers regularly assault young children in some of the 2,000 Muslim schools in Britain run by Islamic organisations. The programme also follows up allegations that, behind closed doors, some Muslim secondary schools teach a message of hatred and intolerance.
Clips already seen include students beinh hit, & also taught that Hindus drink cows piss!
For those of us who've never been in a madrassa, this should be an eye opener.:wink:
Muslims have been in America since the 1600s....
? I never said they hadn't, but the number of Muslims in any Western country has been statistically insignificant pre 1950 (a point at which 90% of Americans were white, & overwhelmingly Christian).
No it really isn't, yes we have had and still do have many cultures existing however it's never been true multiculturalism.
I'd say several monocultures simply trying to put up with each other.
Ah - that is multiculturalism - several monocultures coexisting together.
I really feel the whole multiculturalism thing, sitting down eating my lunch at work.
In one corner you have a group of Polish keeping themselves to themselves, in the next corner you have the Pakistani/Bangladeshi/Indians keeping themselves to themseleve, then in the other corner you'll have the Somalis, then you'll have the blacks on another table, whites on another.
It's uncomfortable, unfriendly. I do seriously hope multicultralism does work but to be totally honest I can't see it.
Bloody hell! Where do you work that it's like that? Sounds like Leicester, or somewhere else in the Midlands. I don't think you'd get Indian Hindus or Sikhs sitting next to Muslims!
That's the problem - they shouldn't house (unless of course they can pay for it themselves) large numbers of immigrants from the same country in the same place anymore. It doesn't promote any understanding of each other.
The higher up the career rung - people have absolutely no choice but to mix - & bloody right too.
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