my best friend and i.......is it weird

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davidjh7 said:
You're right---the population here on LPSG tends to accept people for who they are not what. If they are jerks, they get slammed. If they are decent people, they get supported. The population as a whole seems to mainly have a tiny, closed, bigoted little peabrain. I'm glad I found this site to compensate for a great deal of daily interactions with the human race "in general"

exactly. Well, not exactly, but close enough. At any rate... probably not a good idea to be sharing this with other people outside of this rather abnormal message board unless you're prepared to deal with the consequences- including both of your girlfriends being very weirded out and possibly feeling betrayed and running the risk of everyone else you tell thinking of you as a fag or whatever other deragatory label they wish to attach to the behavior. Regardless of how common such a practice may be... it's not going to be openly perceived that way by the majority of people out there... and since the poster seemed to just want to feel this out and see if other people thought it was weird or not... it's only fair to be realistic about it.

Myself personally, I couldn't care less what anyone else does to get off as long as they're not hurting anybody or bothering me. I'm sure I do things when I'm in the house by myself that other people would think were weird... I'm not sure if davidjh7 was trying to group me together with the other bigoted peabrains or not but I was merely responding to the question in the subject line. Honest opinions can sometimes be more valuable than support. A lack of realistic feedback leads to bad things... like Star Wars episode 1... or the invasion of Iraq.
 

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NineInchCock_160IQ said:
exactly. Well, not exactly, but close enough. At any rate... probably not a good idea to be sharing this with other people outside of this rather abnormal message board unless you're prepared to deal with the consequences- including both of your girlfriends being very weirded out and possibly feeling betrayed and running the risk of everyone else you tell thinking of you as a fag or whatever other deragatory label they wish to attach to the behavior. Regardless of how common such a practice may be... it's not going to be openly perceived that way by the majority of people out there... and since the poster seemed to just want to feel this out and see if other people thought it was weird or not... it's only fair to be realistic about it.

Myself personally, I couldn't care less what anyone else does to get off as long as they're not hurting anybody or bothering me. I'm sure I do things when I'm in the house by myself that other people would think were weird... I'm not sure if davidjh7 was trying to group me together with the other bigoted peabrains or not but I was merely responding to the question in the subject line. Honest opinions can sometimes be more valuable than support. A lack of realistic feedback leads to bad things... like Star Wars episode 1... or the invasion of Iraq.

Not at all--in fact, I was grouping you in with the more broad minded of this site. While you don't sound exactly enthusiastic about homosexuals, you certainly aren;t bashing them, either. You accept diferences in people, without necessarily liking that difference, or approving of it. That is certainly enough for me.
 

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luckydog said:
My best friend and i have been friends since 8th grade......and we are now completing our 2nd year in college......we are or like to beleive that we are very str8....we both have gfs and he is thinking about the big question with his....but when we are very drunk or high we like to watch porn together and help each other out... we dont do this with other ppl...just us.......we gave each other head many times....there wasnt any pentration in any of our encounters....just lots of touching and sucking.....there isnt kissing also...just hands and mouth on cocks..how weird is this.......

Sounds like you guys are at least bisexual. Don't be concerned about whether it's "weird" or not, though. That doesn't matter. What you are probably really trying to figure out is the true nature of the relationship.
 

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Thanks for giving a very realistic perspective on this. I don't really think what this guy describes is "common." Most straight guys have certainly had gay experiences, but not on-going, and usually not with their best friends. I don't think this is something they should be talking about, except perhaps with a therapist. I'm not saying it's "wrong" that they're doing this. But the simple fact that he's asking people on this forum about it means that he's looking for answers, and perhaps he could find some answers from a therapist, or something.

Hard to believe I'm actually giving a serious response to a guy named "nine inch cock." But there you go.... (And, yeah, right, nine inch cock. Gimme a break. I'll bet most guys on this forum are five and a half inches.)

NineInchCock_160IQ said:
exactly. Well, not exactly, but close enough. At any rate... probably not a good idea to be sharing this with other people outside of this rather abnormal message board unless you're prepared to deal with the consequences- including both of your girlfriends being very weirded out and possibly feeling betrayed and running the risk of everyone else you tell thinking of you as a fag or whatever other deragatory label they wish to attach to the behavior. Regardless of how common such a practice may be... it's not going to be openly perceived that way by the majority of people out there... and since the poster seemed to just want to feel this out and see if other people thought it was weird or not... it's only fair to be realistic about it.

Myself personally, I couldn't care less what anyone else does to get off as long as they're not hurting anybody or bothering me. I'm sure I do things when I'm in the house by myself that other people would think were weird... I'm not sure if davidjh7 was trying to group me together with the other bigoted peabrains or not but I was merely responding to the question in the subject line. Honest opinions can sometimes be more valuable than support. A lack of realistic feedback leads to bad things... like Star Wars episode 1... or the invasion of Iraq.
 

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Oh, shut up. Our insecurities are what make us charming. And, by the way, msot straight guys don't jerk each other off. Many straight guys have had isolated homosexual experiences, but they usually aren't on-going and aren't with many different men. If you are a "straight" guy who has on-going homosexual experiences with different men, or even one man in particular, then you might want to rethinking calling yourself "straight." Then again, it doesn't fuckin' matter anyway. Jack off whoever the fuck you want and call yourself a three-eyed goat. Who gives a shit?

My perspective on it is that all people have gay inclinations. What makes straight men straight is that they oppress or "sublimate" those gay inclinations. The gayest most straight men get is getting drunk together and/or hugging and kissing each other during sports, etc.

As a straight guy, the idea of two men jacking each other off makes me wanna vomit. This doesn't mean I think guys who do that are "bad" or wrong. It just means that *I* don't want to do or see such a thing.

Stronzo said:
perhaps it's time you "str8 mates" just got over your issues around homosexuality (the male variety that is..) and admit you experiement like everyone else.
 

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I don't tend to think this too weird. Yall are just really good friends. I don't think you have an issue with homosexuality and to say it as such is asinine.

Homosexuality implies that he is attracted to men in totality. I think you're just mutually masturbating. If you're not kissing each other or penetrating each other then you're not gay. You don't feel compelled to hold hands with him and cuddle with him? You're not gay. You're not attracted to him. Sucking each other off may be a little on the weird side, but again. You're just friends and helping each other out.

Would I do it? Probably not. But yeah, different strokes for different folks.

Now if one of you bent the other over and started sack-banging...yeah, maybe that'd be a little homo. :biggrin1:
 

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You don't feel compelled to hold hands with him and cuddle with him? You're not gay.

(Sorcerer has major breakthrough)
So all the times I fucked guys without kissing or holding hands...all the times I had mutual J/O with them...I WASN'T GAY!

Thank you so much for this precious gift. :biggrin1:
 

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I'm gay and I'm skeptical of your post. I think you are putting us on, or that you two guys are really gay, but put up a straight act at school. I agree with some of the straight guys here.... this is just too gay man.
 

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It all depends on your thoughts leading up to the event. Nobody knows what you were thinking - not even him. Playainda's distinction between attraction and pleasure was dead-on.
 

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(puts counselor hat on)
The human mind has defense mechanisms. If we have some sort of cognitive dissonance, our mind will certainly take care of it. People don't always know why they do what they do. I don't think the OP does either, hence the question. My snarky answers were a form of my playing Devil's Advocate, which is a counseling tool actually used (and used by mothers for thousands of years) to make people think. I've heard this many times before. Yes, the question is "why?" and only the OP can answer that, although probably not yet.
 

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Quite...understood. Nothing wrong with playing Devil's Advocate.

At times, I play Naive Nathan (yeah I made that one up) and try to come up for all the reasons why one theory is correct. Sometimes I'm right and sometimes I'm wrong.

Like this past summer, I was directing this play at my old high school with some people that I went to school with even. I'd say about half the cast and crew was gay and the other half wasn't...Well anyway, there was this guy who they kept saying was gay. He even had this one dude take pictures on a cell phone of him naked. The guy thought nobody knew about it, but the dude who took the pictures spread the word around to everybody. So I came up with reasons and rationalizations as to why this happened and what the guy might've been thinking. Well, this continued on for a while until word got back that the guy (who I said wasn't gay) walked up to the dude (who took the pictures) and said that he felt like he had feelings for him.

*shrugs* Go figure.

Afterwards, the dude told everybody in the cast...so everybody knew, but the guy didn't know everybody knew. Nobody treated him any different, but I guess I was playing Naive Nathan. Didn't believe it, 'cause I didn't want to.

This could be me doing it again, but until I hear otherwise...he masturbated.
 

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Oh, shut up. Our insecurities are what make us charming. And, by the way, msot straight guys don't jerk each other off. Many straight guys have had isolated homosexual experiences, but they usually aren't on-going and aren't with many different men. If you are a "straight" guy who has on-going homosexual experiences with different men, or even one man in particular, then you might want to rethinking calling yourself "straight." Then again, it doesn't fuckin' matter anyway. Jack off whoever the fuck you want and call yourself a three-eyed goat. Who gives a shit?

My perspective on it is that all people have gay inclinations. What makes straight men straight is that they oppress or "sublimate" those gay inclinations. The gayest most straight men get is getting drunk together and/or hugging and kissing each other during sports, etc.

As a straight guy, the idea of two men jacking each other off makes me wanna vomit. This doesn't mean I think guys who do that are "bad" or wrong. It just means that *I* don't want to do or see such a thing.


In my opinion what makes me straight is that I'm not sexually attracted to men. I think some men are hot. But... I don't find myself sexually aroused by them. I don't think fondly about what it would be like to have sex with them. I wouldn't want to have a sexual experience with a man for the same reason that I wouldn't want to have a sexual experience with a woman that I was not attracted to. I've tried the latter before and decided I wasn't going to do that ever again. I had one homosexual experience when I was 17, but not really by choice.

I'm perfectly willing to accept it could be different for different people, but that's me anyway. I just love girls.
 

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Sexuality is where your HEAD is, not where your cock is. And for many people, it is a fluid concept. I lived within a straight paradigm for the first 30 years of my life, then lightning struck. Now, I consider myself queer (some would say bi).

My current realization of my sexuality does not re-write the first 30 years of my life--when my head and cock were all about women. Now, my head and cock are all about EITHER (or both). Everyone comes to terms with his or her sexuality at a different rate and pace and imposing labels on people makes the whole processof embracing yourself that much more difficult.
 

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luckydog said:
My best friend and i have been friends since 8th grade......and we are now completing our 2nd year in college......we are or like to beleive that we are very str8....we both have gfs and he is thinking about the big question with his....but when we are very drunk or high we like to watch porn together and help each other out... we dont do this with other ppl...just us.......we gave each other head many times....there wasnt any pentration in any of our encounters....just lots of touching and sucking.....there isnt kissing also...just hands and mouth on cocks..how weird is this.......

It happens. As for "weird," well, it certainly isn't something that a numerical majority of straight guys will do. In the literal dictionary sense, that makes it abnormal. Then again, you could say exactly the same for bungee jumping. Sexuality depends on your primary preference--any kinky or curious shit you get into beyond that, is just an accessory.

One of my very best and closest friends and I were j/o buddies for something like 12 years. It was hundreds of times, from middle school to post-college, that we'd get together and wack off, showing off and having competitions with each other. All of this was while each of us was also doing our very best to date and hook up with as many girls as possible.

We just got used to it in early years and didn't outgrow it for a long while, I guess. I honestly regret that those years seem over now.