My farewell

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    Maximillian: Hello, I wish to say goodbye to those who I have become fond of as I wont be visiting this board anymore and I am deleting My membership after this post.

    I have a serious conflict of interest and ethics with some things that are being allowed on this board. Rather than place the board in jeopardy, or compromise My principles, I find it better for Me to withdraw as long as these things are allowed. I cannot sit by and not take the appropriate actions regarding things that break any laws if I have knowledge of such things. So its best that I leave the board and not have to do this.

    I also take exception to the fact that HUMONGOUS is allowed to flood My IMs and there is no recourse, I received over 34 IMs in an 5 minute time period from him. Stupid, repetitive IMs with childish, assinine insults to both Myself and sammy. I IMd Mark and apparently nothing happened as he is still targeting Me. Its a shame that a member of this board for only a little over a month has been allowed to be as disruptive as he has and to become such a serious liability to the board. Of course when I receive the replies regarding his plagiarism, I will have sammy bring that info forward. Screenshots of some of the flooding below.

    I am allowing sammy to make the choice as to stay or not, I know she has become close with a few of you and enjoys her time posting. However, she has limitations, she is not to access the areas titled "Young and Hung" or "Fictitious Stories" Also, if I am made aware of ANY mistreatment of her I will remove her faster than you can blink your eye, bet on that.

    I wish everyone the best in everything and thank you for allowing Me to get to know you in this medium.

    Be well,
    Maximillian

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    AnonyMs: Be well, Max.
     
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    prepstudinsc: This makes me mad....why should one of the longtime members feel like he should leave? When someone is harrassing other members, something needs to be done. I'm not pointing fingers, but I saw Maximillian's IM log...that kind of harrassment should not be tolerated by the board. Is there nothing that can be done? I know that if Humongous was banned from the board, he could come back as some other screen name and do it again, but I seem to remember that there was some sort of way a poster could be monitored--was that back when PLD/Panthera was harassing DMW?
     
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    mindseye: I don't know the whole story (and I know there is more to this), but flooding the database with repeated messages is something that we can (and generally do) take care of.
     
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    AnonyMs: For those of you who are wondering what is going on, here is the rest of the story.

    Over the weekend, the smoke filled moderator's lounge was abuzz with what to do with certain stories that were clearly plagarized and dealt with topics that were at the extreme end of the spectrum.

    The mods dicusssed that the logical by word was "safe, sane and consensual" and Monstro posted his guidelines.

    Mark, the owner of the board, stepped in and told us we were going a bit overboard with what he had intended for our role.  

    Below is his reply.

    [quote author=Mark_LPSG Admin link=board=moderators;num=1067838238;start=20#20 date=11/03/03 at 19:18:36]Just relax, everyone.  No one's getting paid here - keep that in mind.   ;)

    I absolutely hate censorship.  Stories about bestiality are allowed.  In fact, stories about ANYTHING are allowed here.  If you don't like what someone has posted, you have as much of a right to tell them how you feel as that person does to post his or her fantasies or stories.  Or, another way to look at it is this:  If you don't like it, don't read it.

    And as much as I appreciate the help that all of you are offering, if you don't feel comfortable being a part of a message board that allows complete freedom of expression, then you should probably find other ways to spend your free time.[/quote]

    I do want to state categorically that as the owner of the board, Mark is entirely within his rights to make the determination that anything goes. He did state later that pictures of child porn or links to pictures of child porn would not be allowed.

    Maximillan and sammygirly have been examining their consciences and have decided they can not participate in a board that allows expression of bestiality, incest, rape, child sexual abuse.  The creed of their lifestyle is "Safe, sane, consensual."  Those things are not any of that.

    Thus, Max's decision to withdraw from the board and sammygirly's agony over it.

    Complete freedom of expression should mean I can post this so you can all decide for yourselves if you wish to be associated with a place that allows for complete freedom of expression.

    Some of you will decide that you do, some of you will decide that you do not.

    It is a free country and a free internet.
     
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    H8Monga: I'm sorry you were harrassd off the messageboard. We can't let him feel as though he's won, giving him some sense of strength. There's got to be something that can be done. I hope you the best and eventually you'll return.
     
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    sammygirly: Gawd I hope this isn't my 1000th post ~laughs softly~

    There really isn't much more for me to add. All that has been said is true, and our feelings are our own, just as our reasonings for them are our own. You may feel, be and participate in whatever you wish - but we cannot.

    I was naive enough to think that certain things were not allowed on this board, particularly with regard to a kerfuffle we had a while back on Y&H. Apparently, if there are no immediate legal consequences, they are not to be an issue.

    This is and has been a fantastic board - both to meet people and support each other. This is a community I will not forget easily, and not one I walk away from easily. I have struggled over this. Agonized. I think you all know how much LPSG means to me, and this is killing me.

    I can't stay and condone such illegal and immoral content.

    I wish you all the very best, and to keep in touch if you have my contact information. Most of you do.

    ~lays down my green stars with a very heavy heart and tears in my eyes and exits this place without predjudice towards those who remain within the community I adore~

    Be well, everyone.
    sammy
     
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    H8Monga: :( :( :(

    I don't know what to say... I'm stunned.
    I'm sorry to lose you. :(
    I hope to see you on Yahoo.
    Take care.
     
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    RedheadedSpdFrk: :'(My heart aches at the loss of 2 more members of this board. I know that I'm not one of the regular posters...but I've been here almost a year (hard to believe) and have enjoyed every word written by Maximillian and Miss Sammygirly.

    I understand Maximillian's and Sammygirly's choice to go. I too have issues with some of the things posted on the board, but have made the choice to just not read the postings that I find disturbing or offensive.

    Maximillian and Sammygirly, I wish you the best of luck.
     
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    7x6andchg: Be well, all three of you. I have expressed my other wishes and sentiments to all of you offline. :'(
     
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    da_blissmachine: OMG! no we CANT say anything goes... bestiality is legal yes so we can say that goes

    the fact is in the US, most of Western Europe, Japan, Canada, India and many othe rcountries ANY explicit depiction of sexual acts of minors, or even those who APPEAR to be minors is illegal, even in story format.

    I am not sure but I believe it goes for rape as well.

    Some states, incest

    In other words, the site is no longer completely legal.

    I would rather these stories be deleted than that the board be unnaccessable because it is shut down, as was the teen LPSG group on yahoo.

    Although I support younger teens seeking support from the board to deal with their sexual issues, stories involving sex with a minor are disgusting.

    As a former child prostitute myself, I am deeply appalled that this could go on on the board. I am not only disgusted but wonder if younger members are safe here. I feel any member who does this should be kicked off. Any member who allowed it should be stripped of their moderator status.... and since the "mod of mods" allows this illegal activity, unless there is a way to delete his moderator status, I am afraid I will have to resign as well, and would encourage all those of good conscience to do the same.

    i would appreciate any individual member contacts of course

    my AIM is blackbeltptb
    Yahoo: eternal_bliss16
    email: eternal_bliss16@yahoo.com

    I am considering starting a new "save LPSG" club on yahoo. if anyone wishes to join.
     
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    Amberlynn: I am leaving as well.

    Awful.
     
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    da_blissmachine: it is a very difficult decision that i must leave LPSG and deprive it of its most outspoken hindu member

    amberlynn, nony, sammy, max, i hope you join my group... i will form it by tomorrow afternoon
     
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    7x6andchg: Bliss-

    It's Mark's board.  He has consulted in the past with an attorney, as he has mentioned on prior threads, regarding the legal issues surrounding these topics.

    It is wholly within your rights to agree or disagree, as Sammy and Max and Nony have done.  They are principled people who stood for what they believe in.  There is no shame in that at all.  I, for one, will truly miss them all, and have told them so through other media.

    However, that said, to ask for his "resignation" is presumptuous at best...the site is his, and his alone.

    If you do not agree with it and can not IGNORE it, then I believe your course of action, sad as it is, is to leave.  It is a decision that each member must make individually.  It is with a heavy heart that I see regular posters I have come to know leave us and will proffer my contact information to those I know, but if the inclusion of such things does not sit well with your beliefs, that is your recourse.

    It remains a personal decision each of us will have to make.

    7x6&C
     
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    9cyclops9: :'(
    Oh my God. I absolutely cannot believe this. Sammy and Max, I completely understand why you guys are leaving. I don't really know if I can just sit idly by and let things like this happen either. The stories were fine with me, I rarely read any of them anyway, and if I do, I read one by one of the members I am more familiar with and whose posting I know will not be vulgar. Some of the stories were absolutely disgusting, but what bothered me the most was that they were posted illegally. I mean, if the stories had just been credited, none of this bullshit would have happened. I hope the person who started all of this feels really guilty for causing so much grief.

    I will say that if he is allowed to do as he pleases (posting illegally as well as harassing members), I will leave too. I've made some great friends in the few months I've been here, and I can only imagine how hard it must be for Sammy and Max as long as they've been here, because this group is always on my mind. Seriously, I sit in class and wonder how folks are doing, and what's happening on the board. I have a blast here.

    But I stand by what I say. I will not remain here if this is not stopped. Mark, do you really want to condone illegal activities on your board? If what Bliss says is true, nearly everything that HUMONGOUS ever posted was illegal, whether he gave credit to the authors or not. I joined this board because it seemed like a decent place, not some trashy dick website, but a site full of honest, sincere, intelligent people, NOT sick twisted perverts that are into pedophilia, incest, rape and bestiality. I will not be associated with a group who condones such things. It is against everything I stand for. If things haven't begun to change in a week, I'm gone. And if they do change, I really hope Sammy and Max will consider coming back. I always admired the passion they brought to the board and the intensity with which they shared themselves with each other. I can only hope my marriage is as sexually charged as theirs. They are two of my favorites on the board. I don't really know what else to say except that LPSG has taken a serious turn for the worst and it may very well be the undoing of the whole community.

    Anyone who would like to contact me, feel free to do so. If you email me, put your LPSG board name in the subject line.

    Email: bflatnine@yahoo.com
    BFlatNine@aol.com

    AOL Instant Messenger: B Flat Nine

    Yahoo! Messenger: bflatnine

    Bliss, when you start the group, let me know. I'll be there in a heartbeat. Set clear guidelines about what is and is not acceptible. I'm behind you 100%.

    John
     
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    gigantikok: Wow.

    To everyone who had the cajones and will to stand up for what they believed in, wow.  I could never leave this group no matter how offended I get, so I am sure it was hard for most of you.  To those we've lost due... you've forever gained my respect and admiration.

    [quote author=9cyclops9 link=board=99;num=1068001982;start=0#14 date=11/04/03 at 21:28:56]  I joined this board because it seemed like a decent place, not some trashy dick website...[/quote]
    Pardon me for saying this, but if Mark so adamantly believes in free speech, I should have the freedom to say this.  THAT is exactly the type of site Mark promotes (have you ever seen extremecock.net?), so it doesn't surprise me that he has no issues with LPSG regressing to the level of something like that.
     
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    Rayolin: *lights a candle* :'( :'(

    gonna miss you guys... i loved reading your posts; always a pleasure.

    I'd join a save lpsg group bliss! lemme know.
     
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    rainfletcher: This is very difficult for me, too.

    First, I am one of those who have absolutely benefited from the intended purpose of this board - to support those who have or are with large dicks. My life has been a mess because of my dick, and this board has gone a very long way to putting some order back.

    What bestiality, incest and sex-with-minors has to do wiht all of this, I can't imagine.

    However, I've been struggling with some of these same issues. I got a Yahoo IM a couple of days ago from a 15 year kid who thought he was into bukkake and wanted to know if I'd ever done it. He had learned of it through his exposure to this board. I can only imagine how this will impact not only him, but his future and present partners. Very, very disturbing.

    So, I'm not sure what to do. I have tremendous respect for Sammy and Maximilian and I genuinely mourn my loss of them. I have very strong feelings of antipathy towards those who have created this current environment. I wish them all the Karma I hope they have coming.

    But, what of others out there who are in the same predicament as I, who may benefit from my experience and my own pain and life experience?

    This is so very difficult. I've not left yet...

    But at some point, I assume the perceived good that comes from my participation (the good to me and the good to others) will be overshadowed by the harm done by the posting of the few. I don't know when that point comes, but I have a hunch it's not too far off.

    Mark, I don't know you and I've never spoken or IMed with you. But please, consider weighing in on this. When you are losing the voice of people like Maximilian and Sammy, there's a message in that. Don't let this board be co-opted by some idiots. There's alot of good that comes out of this board. You can step in. If they want to post their shit somewhere else, they have that right. But they DON'T have a right to post it here. Unless you give them that right.

    My assumption is that this board is about LARGE PENIS SUPPORT....If I'm wrong and it's about something else, then I guess I'll mosey along, too.
     
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    AnonyMs: What fun it has been hanging with the guys and then with all the gals.

    For those of you who do not know, at one time I posted under the nick of Deevah...  if I was not the first woman to post on the board, I was the first woman to post regularly.  Thank you, guys, for always making me feel so welcome.  The giggles I got when I stepped into the chat room - how you cleaned up the language!

    I have learned so much from this board.  Not only about male sexuality but also about how to build community.  My time here has been invaluable.

    Please see my leaving for what it is... a decision I needed to make in order to live my life with integrity according to my value system.  It is by no means a judgement on anyone who stays.  

    Mark, thank you for hosting the board and for allowing me the privilege of being one of the moderators for a time.  I wish you well in all you do.

    Mindseye, you remain one of my technical heros!

    Paul, Monstro, Jacinto, Dee, Allie, Tender, Green Eyes, Pecker, Hapi, Throb, Donk, Curtis, Prepstud and too many others - I love you guys and hope you will choose to keep in touch.  

    Shalom, my friends.

    nony

    There are two types of people in the world... those who will miss me and those who will not.  

    As for me, I will miss you all.  

     
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