My Theory On The Sexual Nature of Gay/Bisexual Men.

Interesting theories guys! I don't think my homosexuality is grounded in being dominated or being submissive, although I enjoy both, but in the deep need and desire for the Male. It is the fact that it is a Man inside me, or that I am inside a Man, which drives my erection. Just being with Men in Male only spaces is something I find highly erotic. That is why, although I respect, I do not understand the sexuality of bi guys, or how that need for the same gender which drives me can work for both. I love so much being a Man who needs Men!
 
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For instance, I am 100% a top with men as I don't like bottoming at all. I did it only once, it hurt and I felt no pleasure, and never again. BUT from time to time, I think about getting on all fours(oestrus position) and be "impregnated" when I am dealing with a guy that is very muscular and hairy. Especially if he is bald and has the crazy macho look in his eyes like he won't take "no" for an answer. I feel like just submitting and getting on four knees and letting him do it and get it over with, just like a female cat in heat will scream in pain as she undergoes copulation: she doesn't enjoy it, but she does it because that is her hormonal instinct and drive.

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For instance, there are heterosexual men that also have this reponse, and enjoy taking it up there. Think of the straight guys that like being pegged

These straight men have the same psychological structure of gay/bi men, although they are 100% straight because biologically they respond only to female-typical physical characteristics, like breasts, vaginas, soft skin, female pheromones, etc. BUT because their psychological structure is the same, they will still seek women that have dominant/aggressive personalities. Men that like being pegged(not all,. but a lot) also enjoy BDSM, having a "mistress" that tells them what to do.
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I'm the same , but I realized in those fantasies when I want to submit to an alpha, subconsciously I want to be that alpha, because IRL I cant submit to a man, it feels too degrading and its rare that I meet a man who worthy of my submission. My fantasies in my head dont match real life. I feel like I am over compensating for lack of a father figure with those fantasies wanting to submit to a true alpha and that's what it is really about. maybe low self discipline attributes to that as well. Also, I'm not into stink

As for any man who wants to be pegged or have a mistress force him to do gay stuff, he is not straight, he just wants an excuse or an out like every other DL guy so he can blame someone or something else for his gay behavior. Because I wonder how many men are truly straight. 99% of the guys in my life who identify as "straight" are DL. I dont have many male friends or colleague that i have not messed around with and none of my friends identify as gay or bi.

Unfortunately I've seen so many muscular masculine str8 guys ending up being big sissies when they get real comfortable and its disappointing. Look at "str8" pornstar Sean Lawless, who I thought was a str8 gawd, hes bouncing and sucking on dildos now.
 
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I'm the same , but I realized in those fantasies when I want to submit to an alpha, subconsciously I want to be that alpha, because IRL I cant submit to a man, it feels too degrading and its rare that I meet a man who worthy of my submission. My fantasies in my head dont match real life. I feel like I am over compensating for lack of a father figure with those fantasies wanting to submit to a true alpha and that's what it is really about. maybe low self discipline attributes to that as well. Also, I'm not into stink

As for any man who wants to be pegged or have a mistress force him to do gay stuff, he is not straight, he just wants an excuse or an out like every other DL guy so he can blame someone or something else for his gay behavior. Because I wonder how many men are truly straight. 99% of the guys in my life who identify as "straight" are DL. I dont have many male friends or colleague that i have not messed around with and none of my friends identify as gay or bi.

Unfortunately I've seen so many muscular masculine str8 guys ending up being big sissies when they get real comfortable and its disappointing. Look at "str8" pornstar Sean Lawless, who I thought was a str8 gawd, hes bouncing and sucking on dildos now.
You make some really good points. I am mostly a top, but would like to find a verse alpha guy so that I can be verse too. I wouldn't mind submitting to a guy knowing that it was for our sexual pleasure as opposed to some guy wanting to use me. Being used is the fantasy part.

I don't think pegging makes a guy gay. He's getting pleasure. But I do believe that what you said is true about a large percentage of guys. If you are using a dick dildo, you are experiencing a fraction of what a real dick can do for you. And then we go back to the chicken vs the egg of this topic. Why do men have a need to submit in some form? I am sure that it takes many different paths for the why.

I do find it interesting that we have heard that you are having sex with every person that your partner has had sex with. For me, yes, I'd love to take in the alpha, to be him. I mostly like giving a masculine guy or an alpha a hot sexual experience. So much so that he wants to be my bottom. And the same goes for me. And I have seen the same statement from a few tops, so I know that I am not unique.
 
"Alpha men" don't need to tell others they're Alpha. It's also highly likely a "true Alpha" understands a theory of social behavior observed in one species probably doesn't apply to another species. That's particularly true when the social environments of the two are fundamentally different and their only taxonomic similarity ends at the class Mammalia.
 
So I understand the sentiment, but, I truly wish we could move away from the outdated and widely disputed terminology of “Alpha,” “Beta,” etc. Even the person who originally coined these terms has since questioned their validity, as he quickly realized the "Science" was faulty, only to have the corrections ignored & further misused.

From a personality perspective, traits like leadership, assertiveness, charisma, and confidence are highly context-dependent—they can shift based on familiarity, comfort, or environment. Extraversion, introversion, self-control, and other sociological factors also influence how these traits manifest. Aggressiveness, for example, can (and often does) coexist with insecurity, passivity, or fear, showing that behavior alone is not a reliable measure of dominance.

Hormones and pheromones add further complexity. Men can have high levels of testosterone or androgens without fitting the stereotypical (modern 2020s) “manly” mold, and conversely, men who appear traditionally masculine—tall, hairy (not considered manly or attractive in some cultures), assertive—may actually have low or imbalanced hormones, which can affect emotional stability.

And I don't mean to crush anyone's fun or fantasies. Just wanted to point these labels are largely ever-changing social constructs, shaped by cultural notions of dominance and “manliness,” and are about as scientifically reliable as horoscopes, zodiac signs, or astrology. But contribute to way too much as a justification of toxic masculinity, all for the sake of being horny.
 
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So I understand the sentiment, but, I truly wish we could move away from the outdated and widely disputed terminology of “Alpha,” “Beta,” etc. Even the person who originally coined these terms has since questioned their validity, as he quickly realized the "Science" was faulty, only to have the corrections ignored & further misused.

From a personality perspective, traits like leadership, assertiveness, charisma, and confidence are highly context-dependent—they can shift based on familiarity, comfort, or environment. Extraversion, introversion, self-control, and other sociological factors also influence how these traits manifest. Aggressiveness, for example, can (and often does) coexist with insecurity, passivity, or fear, showing that behavior alone is not a reliable measure of dominance.

Hormones and pheromones add further complexity. Men can have high levels of testosterone or androgens without fitting the stereotypical (modern 2020s) “manly” mold, and conversely, men who appear traditionally masculine—tall, hairy (not considered manly or attractive in some cultures), assertive—may actually have low or imbalanced hormones, which can affect emotional stability.

And I don't mean to crush anyone's fun or fantasies. Just wanted to point these labels are largely ever-changing social constructs, shaped by cultural notions of dominance and “manliness,” and are about as scientifically reliable as horoscopes, zodiac signs, or astrology. But contribute to way too much as a justification of toxic masculinity, all for the sake of being horny.
I am not attacking, but don't you think that using the term toxic masculinity is also outdated and usually used by "softer" men and lesbian leaning women? I personally find it offensive to all men. We all understand that anyone can possess dominant traits. On a funny note, have you ever wondered why they say Marines are mostly bottoms (not saying that bottoming is less masculine at all)? It is because the typical picture of a manly-man is a Marine, Rugby player, MMA fighter, etc., and many are closeted. So, yes, labels on men can be off, and what is underneath is the most important truth.

I don't know about you, but my celebrity Alpha is Chris Hemsworth and not Sheldon on that TV show. Chris Hemsworth might be hung 3 inches in real life and Sheldon could be packing. I don't know, but the visual of Chris does it for me lol. Thus, you aren't ruining anything for me lol but I appreciate your take.

The animal kingdom is where the term Alpha comes from and you can't deny that it exists in nature. The human animal Alph looks different, but we all compete at every level. This is why men check out other guys dicks. Be it in porn or in the locker room. However, most straight guys NEVER admit it.
 
I am not attacking, but don't you think that using the term toxic masculinity is also outdated and usually used by "softer" men and lesbian leaning women? I personally find it offensive to all men. We all understand that anyone can possess dominant traits. On a funny note, have you ever wondered why they say Marines are mostly bottoms (not saying that bottoming is less masculine at all)? It is because the typical picture of a manly-man is a Marine, Rugby player, MMA fighter, etc., and many are closeted. So, yes, labels on men can be off, and what is underneath is the most important truth.

I don't know about you, but my celebrity Alpha is Chris Hemsworth and not Sheldon on that TV show. Chris Hemsworth might be hung 3 inches in real life and Sheldon could be packing. I don't know, but the visual of Chris does it for me lol. Thus, you aren't ruining anything for me lol but I appreciate your take.

The animal kingdom is where the term Alpha comes from and you can't deny that it exists in nature. The human animal Alph looks different, but we all compete at every level. This is why men check out other guys dicks. Be it in porn or in the locker room. However, most straight guys NEVER admit it.
 

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Interesting post but some guys don’t see themselves as, gay or bisexual they see themselves as a straight guy who sometimes has sex with another guy! Men having sex with men. If you are gay or bisexual it’s who your are not what you do sexually that defines you.
 
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Interesting post but some guys don’t see themselves as, gay or bisexual they see themselves as a straight guy who sometimes has sex with another guy! Men having sex with men. If you are gay or bisexual it’s who your are not what you do sexually that defines you.
I always say that a man having sex with a woman isn't going to make him straight, just like a straight guy having sex with a man isn't going to make him gay. Lots of straight guys in jail that are having sex and when they get out its back to straight sex. However, I think that most men are bi on the Kinsey scale. And lets be honest, sex is like pizza. There isn't bad pizza except for Chicago Style Deep Dish lol lol Society doesn't allow for men to experiment. It does for women. I tease my straight friends...what would happen if you tried gay sex and it was the best sex ever? That makes them very uncomfortable lol And I am not one of the gays that wants every guy to be gay...just the good looking ones lol lol
 
I really, really like this theory! It just rings true within me (and makes me super horny!) and explains so many things about my life that I otherwise struggle with.

I also love Trevor's theory:
I have another theory and it deals with micro-chimarism. Gay and bisexual men are capable of impregnating a female and reproducing and many do. Suppose they are able to pass on traits of the men they find desirable (and have had receptive anal sex with) on to their own offspring? I read a study somewhere where female fruit flies retain the DNA of every male they have ever had sex with and can pass his traits on to her offspring even if it is with another male.

If fruit flies do this wouldn't higher species like humans do the same? If females retain the DNA of every male they have ever had sex with could males possibly do the same thing even though they cannot become pregant? There must be a reason in nature for males to want to inseminate another male and for males to desire and be willing to submit to being inseminated even though there is no chance of reproduction. Nature also made the prostate very sensitive to reward a male with intense pleasure for enduring the initial pain of being penetrated and allowing himself to be inseminated by another male. Nature doesn't make mistakes, there must be a logical reason for homosexuality.

I just imagine the prehistoric alpha male inseminating submissive men and proudly feeling in himself that he's just converted this man's genes into his own, thus spreading his dominance and territory even further through any women the submissive man ever inseminates. I've often fantasized about that being true, or even my own DNA changing and making me look gradually more like the man who inseminated me.
 
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I really, really like this theory! It just rings true within me (and makes me super horny!) and explains so many things about my life that I otherwise struggle with.

I also love Trevor's theory:


I just imagine the prehistoric alpha male inseminating submissive men and proudly feeling in himself that he's just converted this man's genes into his own, thus spreading his dominance and territory even further through any women the submissive man ever inseminates. I've often fantasized about that being true, or even my own DNA changing and making me look gradually more like the man who inseminated me.
For us oral receptacles of semen, I’ve had discussions over the years with guys who feel it supports their T-levels, protein intake and that cocksuckers overall tend to have great skin. Ingesting all that male DNA has advantages, it seems…😋
 
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You can have an opinion, but a generalization means more often and not always. Here is something that I don't have proof but I can generalize about. I have only had one wet dream that involved a woman. All others have involved homosexual sex acts. I don't know one straight guy who has ever admitted that they have had ONE homosexual wet dream. Not one guy lol but I know that they happen. They will never admit to it. Same thing if I talk about a woman wanting to be dominated. Heck, the Bible even says this in a different way. But I don't know one woman who would admit to that lol Going further, guys would say that they'd never suck dick or take it in the ass. But going to prison and the huge alpha male gives you a choice of harm or surrender? You don't have a choice my friend. Sad but true. And then there are these stupid rules. In jail I think it's if you're in for three years or longer, it's OK to have gay sex. Not everyone will, but generally lol lol
I am an owned sub in my the BDSM community and I can tell you with absolute certainty that not all women desire to be dominated. As a matter of fact, I know a Mistress that has not 1 but 3 male slaves who lick her boots and are totally subjected to her will. I used to have a Mistress who had me and a male as her slaves. I know of one more Mistress who is a very strong Dom and has her male slave do everything to and for her from driving her around to being nude, wearing a cock cage, being led on his leash. Your generalizations are incorrect, Sir. The 3 Mistresses that I personally know are strong "Alpha" feminine women who also Dominate men superbly and in some cases that I have personally seen, a better Dom than most men. (Not, of course my Dom) They would put most of the Alpha men on here to shame, or at least you, Sir.
 
For us oral receptacles of semen, I’ve had discussions over the years with guys who feel it supports their T-levels, protein intake and that cocksuckers overall tend to have great skin. Ingesting all that male DNA has advantages, it seems…😋
I am 62 years old and have sucked so much cock that I look 42.
 
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