nakedness creates great bonding

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  1. boegeel

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    last month me and my colleague went to korea for business trip. after tiring meetings, we went to korean sauna for relaxing. it would be my first visit to korean sauna. and as you guys may know that nudity is mandatory in korean or japanese sauna. i was a bit nervous about the situation i'm going to face in that place.

    then we arrived at the sauna. it was not a peak hour, so fewer people there. its a good thing for a beginner like me. being korean, my colleague really casual about nudity. he directly strip naked in the locker room while i was still fully clothed. he's only few years older than me and probably quite handsome for korean guy. he told me to strip to my birthday suit. as i did, i was abit embarrased because the though of being naked had gave a little exicetement down there. i was sporting a semi erection. i tried to cover it with my hands. my colleague was just laughing, and he said no worries.

    then he showed me the bathing ritual for korean sauna. we even scrubed each other's back and ass (as we couldn't reach those parts by ourself, that's why korean helps each other to scrub those parts). i guess for korean men is not a big deal having a physical contact even when you're naked. because i also saw other men washed each other's back and ass as well. even i saw a naked guy being massaged by other naked guy. probably for foreigner like me, it was not a common sight, but my colleague said it was common in korean sauna. and nothing sexual about it.

    anyway, after the rituals, we soaked in a pool then we talk and just talking. it was more than one hour talking. surprisingly i felt really comfortable talking with my colleague while we're naked. usually a bit hard to talk to him in the office (while we're fully clothed). he himself also talk easily to me in the sauna. we talked many things, from business to personal issues. it was like a great men bondling experience. and honestly, after the bathing experience, it is much easy to do business with my colleague.

    according to my colleague, some asian people like korean and japanese believe that being naked together in the bath can increase stronger bonding between individuals. some korean companies even held their monthly meetings or even business talk in the sauna. when everybody is naked, there won't be lies. nothing to hide (that is exactly what i felt).

    having experience it myself, i guess the saying is true. nakedness which can also related to purity can bring honesty and stronger bonding between individual.

    has anyone ever experience the same? or probably there are korean/japanese guys in here who can share the story behind their bathing ritual tradition?
     
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    Hi

    I am bi and did not ever have much control over blood pressure issuers in some areas. It might have been an embarrassment for me BUT:

    For straight guys, I certainly can not imagine a BETTER means of coming to be acquainted with/being totally relaxed and at peace with a business partner, or for that matter any other same sex person obviously !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Mentally and stress wise it will put 99,99 very much more at ease and break a thick pack of ice, if any present.

    Would very much like to hear about any other straight experiences.

    My vote for the story is B+ and for the ritual AA+

    VERY WELL DONE!

    Anton in RSA.
     
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    Glad your business trip and the experience of a sauna in another country were pleasant. :cool:

    Just one thing I find odd. :confused: I have been washing my own ass for decades now. Why is it necessary for someone else to do wash your butt in a Korean sauna? :confused: I have no issue with a pre-sauna cleaning ritual. I just find it odd that it involves other people. :redface:
     
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    I'm with njqt466 on this one. :D I didn't know there were people who couldn't reach their own asses to clean it.
     
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    Maybe the arm to ass ratio is different?
     
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    Maybe it is all about tradition.

    Why decry a culture that you may not know anything about.

    I have been there, but never to a Korean Sauna.

    I did participate in the Clubbing while visiting South Korea many years ago.

    Lovely people.

    Have a Blessed Christmas and enjoy the diversity of the people on this planet.
     
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    Yes it does.

    I feel that nowadays there are too many who associate nudity with sexuality, sexual orientation, and all that nonsense. I'm glad you learned that there is another healthy side to nudity that some societies do not embrace. Maybe this is why people are so homophobic because they think anything can make them "gay," when in fact you cannot.

    I'm Asian and I grew up with the idea that nudity is neither encouraged or discouraged. However, I know that in locker rooms and saunas, nudity is extremely common. The scene is intimidating for the newcomers but that is because I feel that people are so insecure about their sexuality. After a while, you'll learn that there is nothing sexual about nudity and going to the sauna is going to the sauna. Scraping dirt off another persons back is scraping off dirt off another persons back. I'm glad you enjoyed your experience, the saunas are a wonderful and relaxing place to be in. There are also health benefits associated with the minerals in the water.
     
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    I like the openness and cameraderie that you get in a traditional or "straight" sauna/bath-house. I've never been with a work colleague but I can imagine that it would be a good bonding experience. Much better than a day on the paint-ball range, lol!
     
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    Interesting topic. Isn' this website a safe place to show our nakedness...either by actual photo or just sharing our true fears and feelings and hopefully get some trusting, non-judgemental feeback..
     
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    I do agree that shared nakedness can be a bonding experience, in most cases. The only negative times would be if one guy was on a "power" trip of some kind and wanted to use the fact that he was better-hung to intimidate others.

    But, in the vast majority of cases, the fact that two or more men can "hang out" together IS a bonding experience. It is much harder to be critical of another guy after you have seen him naked!

    I have actually "made" friends when we were naked together.

    I have also visited nudist clubs and have conversed with men that I never saw anywhere else, and never wearing clothes. I have found this a good venue for finding men who are open and accepting, and non-judgmental, and the reason has to be that we are totally NAKED together.
     
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    Same thing by going to nudist resort or beach. Great way bond with people while noting to hide!
     
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    it's interesting that the negative feedback on this thread comes from women, i really think women have a problem with male bonding.
     
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    I have always felt that nudity with your same gender peers strengthens the bond you have with them. I have had countless naked experiences with my male friends naked (completely non-sexual) in locker rooms, showers, saunas, steam rooms and hot tubs. When you are both naked, the B.S. and bravado drops allowing for true bonding to happen. I have even met, chatted with and made many "gym friends" when we both happened to be naked in the steam room or hot tub together at the gym. It's a cool experience - very liberating and manly in my opinion. Nothing screams a weak unmanly guy more than a guy being hyper modest and going to ridiculous extremes to not be seen nude by his male peers.
     
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    Been to a couple underwear parties or naked parties and they were soo much more laid back and less bitchy than those with clothes on. Everyone is so much more open, seems to show a since of camaraderie, and just all around fun.
     
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    I visited my first public sauna in perhaps fifteen years a few weeks ago.
    Swedish saunas are also nude, and the reason I had visited the bath house was to start to get over my self consciousness.
    It sucked so bad getting naked to begin with. I had shrunk something fierce, and as I stepped into the public shower area I felt really bad over all.

    But as I entered the sauna and had a seat, I got strangely comfortable. I am really used to taking saunas on my own, so the whole experience feels like home. The only dofference were the seven other naked guys ...
    After a few minutes we were actually all talking, and laughing. I noticed I played quite a big role in breaking the ice in there.
    I agree that there is a strange difference when having a conversation naked. After a few minutes I didn't really notice the nudity. It didn't play such a big part anymore. I had gotten to know the others, albeit it superficially, and that was my focus. Not their naked bodies.

    It is a weird and volatile and comforting thing, being naked.
     
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    I hadn't thought about it before, but some of the friends I've been closest with are people with whom I havebeen naked with the most (e.g., showers in dorms, fraternity, gym locker rooms, saunas, steam rooms, and a couple of nude beach visits). Probably something to it, since people often become closer to those whom they let into their private lives, whether it be through personal rituals (e.g., dining together, showering together) or having people in your home.

    I haven't been to a Korean sauna, whether in Korea or elsewhere, but I have been to a sento in Japan and liked the casual nudity, which was very non-sexual.

    For some reason, I don't mind being naked in front of people I don't know or people that I do, with the excpetion that I don't like being naked in front of people from the office. I had one good friend from the office once and perhaps we became better friends because we hung out naked in the gym locker room (sauna, steam, whirlpool). Maybe, as another poster suggested, instead of paintball, the next office off-site meeting should be at a Korean sauna. On second thought - maybe not.
     
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    I live in Korea and have been to these "Sauna's" actually called "Jinjabongs". It's a really relaxing experience and men of all ages will hang out nude. It's strange because Korea has a really prudish attitude towards nudity. Men don't even take off their shirts in public, but in these places nudity is acceptable

    Oddly Korean's don't trim or shave their pubic hair. I have seen them even blow dry their hair.
     
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    The human body is a beautiful work of art / biology. That is why Michelangelo's painting and sculptures are so beautiful - they celebrate the beauty of the human form.
     
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    Very similar to saunas of northern European traditions, as well as the hammams of Turkish and other Muslim cultures. I seek them out when traveling. I love the camaraderie, and often have shared a back scrub, that was just that... A back scrub! It's a relaxing and healthful experience going to them, especially if you've been traveling and are exhausted from it. I'm sad to say that most of these legit saunas and baths have closed in the USA, but, Koreans are leading the way to bring them back to us, both for men and women.
     
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    dude, couldnt agree more, men should be men and not sissies.

    also had a situation where a coworker/buddy of mine had to go on a business trip together, and in order to save the company some money, we actually volunteered to share a room. we really hit it off, and were super relaxed about nudity in the room, and even went to the hotel spa one night. it was warm and we both slept in the nude, each in our separate bed of course.

    the third morning we woke up at the same time and i had my usual morning wood, and was waiting for it to go down before using the bathroom, but then i was like what the hell and said dude, really gotta go piss, hope u dont mind my morning wood, and got up. he laughed and said, ha, same problem buddy, and moved his comforter and exposed his raging hard on. we had a good laugh and did not feel akward about it at all, on the contrary, both men sharing male problems.

    that same night, after we each talked to our wives on the phone, we were chilling and had some beers, and then he suggested, hey, wanna put on some porn? i'll buy. i said sure, and we put on a hot gangbang flick. there was soem akward silence, and the occasioanl comment, til i took a deep breath and said, man, really gotta take care of this, do u mind.

    he said go for it, looks like u needed it this morning already. so i pulled out my dick while lying on my bed, and he followed suit. we did glance over ocassioaly and made comments like, looks like our wives are lucky ladies. after 10 mins or so, we both shot our loads on our chests with considerable grunting and moaning, and then we both burst out laughing.

    i made the first move and said, u area really cool man, felt really liberating hanging with u. he said same here man.

    while i can totally understand some guys will fnd this akward and weird, since it was a coworkrer after all, it wasnt, we actaully developed a closer bond of trust and stuff, even at work, since after the JO session we had seen each other in a very vulnerable and exposed state, so it only added to the bonding.
     
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