Nancy Lies Again

[Bbucko]

I can see the bumper sticker now:

"Nancy Lied--People Got Health Care.
Bush Lied--People Died."

Good luck with that crusade against health care, mate.

Skippy's already disowned his own thread.

 

[D_Davy_Downspout]

That may well be the case. I'd love to see both amendments back in but there needs to be a first step and this step, for all its imperfections, will lead to better reforms down the road. I would love for them to just model the system on one of the better ones or create a synthesis of all the best models out there and just plop it down on the group in one fell swoop but, sadly, democratic government works this way. Americans are a cautious and naturally conservative people without any sort of tribal cohesion. As Churchill said, "Democracy is the worst form of government.... except for all the others."

Bullshit. An individual mandate with no enforced cost controls or a minimum quality of care is going to make people worse off.

There is no real reform in any of the bills in congress. Just lip service and a huge blowjob to one of the most evil industries in the world.

You don't have to reinvent the wheel. Open Medicare to everyone, and boom, you have universal coverage.

 

[jason_els]

Bullshit. An individual mandate with no enforced cost controls or a minimum quality of care is going to make people worse off.

There is no real reform in any of the bills in congress. Just lip service and a huge blowjob to one of the most evil industries in the world.

You don't have to reinvent the wheel. Open Medicare to everyone, and boom, you have universal coverage.

I know that. You know that. The vast majority of Americans do not know that. They are simple and facile and just looking for a soundbite that makes them happy. That's the sad truth with American democracy. There is a lot of money hiring some very able and canny marketers to sway opinion into their camp and right now they're winning. Until the system collapses and there is no option but a public one, that's the way it's going to be. This is why we have to reinvent the wheel. It has nothing to do with practicality or learning from the wisdom of experts and countries who have done it before. It has everything to do with politics and ignorance and money.

There is no way that oldsters are going to let everyone into Medicare. They guard it jealously as their own entitlement. They are also the single largest and most organized voting bloc which is why you see them holding signs saying, "Get government out of my Medicare!" Until they die off, they will vote the way they are told by the insurance industry (save for the few who know better).

 

[midlifebear]

Skippy's already disowned his own thread.

What? The Skipter's abandoned his own thread? He can't be bothered? 'Tis a pity he's not a good whore.

 

[faceking]

Doesn't matter... it's out now, and can be vetted for the disaster it is...maybe they should get Gavin Newsom and his 'you're going take it, whether you like it or not' attitude.

It's easier to pay off junior congressmen and women with the seminal "we'll get your district that $50million project if you vote yes".... senate... little bit different.

Looks like good OLD Nancy Pelosi has done it again, trying to hide the contents of the Health Care Bill.

Today she stated the bill will not be posted online 72 hours before a vote, as she said she would.

So again, why did she lie? What is she hiding?

The Weekly Standard

 

[SilverTrain]

Doesn't matter... it's out now, and can be vetted for the disaster it is...maybe they should get Gavin Newsom and his 'you're going take it, whether you like it or not' attitude.

It's easier to pay off junior congressmen and women with the seminal "we'll get your district that $50million project if you vote yes".... senate... little bit different.

This is a failure of syntax and most everything else in the logical realm.

 

[Bbucko]

What? The Skipter's abandoned his own thread? He can't be bothered? 'Tis a pity he's not a good whore.

Poo-ah dee-ah, as my grandmother would say: poo-ah, poooo-ah dee-ah.

This is a failure of syntax and most everything else in the logical realm.

FaceKing's lapse into chronic alcoholism becomes more apparent with every post he submits.

 

[cruztbone]

God bless our house speaker, Nancy Pelosi. impertect yes, politically astute yes, Liar no. I love the way she drives the Repugnantcans crazy. Minority leader John Boehner looks more orange -skinned and more sounds more drunk every day. Poor baby.,