National Health Service-Where have all the people gone?

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  1. D_Relentless Original

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    Over the past 5 weeks i have been supporting my Mom to hospital appointments, one week on a Monday, 2nd week Wednesday and alternate days over a five week period.

    Whilst waiting most of the day in the hospital clinic, i became aware that i was on most occassions the only English speaking person there, almost everyone else was Asian mainly Pakistani people and had young children speaking for them.

    This went on over the 3 week period on different days, on week four there was a black guy and his mrs lovely couple who said he had been waiting for an appointment for 7 months, i told him he was lucky my mom had been waiting 10 months, he was pissed off with the amount of asians in the clinic, we got into conversation about cultures, marriage how he loved Britain etc, really interesting conversation, he then surprised me and said" This is so bad in this hospital, where have all the white people gone?".

    And it got me thinking,
    where has everybody gone?.
    Are more people going private these days?
    What am i paying National Insurance for?.
    Is the NHS on its way out?.

    In your countries or other cities, what it like for medical services?
     
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    National Insurance was an income surcharge to finance the NHS; Mrs Thatcher quietly (but no doubt constitutionally) changed it so that it became an additional "tax" - it is no longer circled for health care. We are not the people responsible for the service we have, it was the struggle of our grandparents and great grandparents who set up and financed the NHS. That someone can come to a country and automatically qualify for expensive medical treatment is unfair, but Britain has always been a soft touch. The people who receive the fruits of our labour have never expressed gratitude nor acknowledged the sacrifices made by our hard pressed grandparents.
    Fearing revolution after 1945 the Tories joined the Labourites in taking over the ad hoc medical services (instituted under the work house acts) and the senior physicians, surgeons and consultants who refused to work in the NHS suddenly had a change of heart, literally at the last minute (when their mouths had been stuffed with gold - they earned more from NHS than full time private practice) which is a pointer to todays problems.


    It all boils down to money. You can pay for a BUPA or other private screening, if anything is found your NHS GP will be informed and he has to refer you to a consultant in the NHS. If you turn up with same symptons as a GP patient you will not be investigated for weeks, possibly months, and then only refered to a consultant under target scheme. We employ low grade immigrant hospital physicians rather than invest in medical training here: the BMA make sure the status quo is kept. No one would deny an Asian child first class treatment, but health managers and politicians who alienate the people who founded and support the health service here do so at their peril. Do hope your mum receives the very best treatment, she deserves it, she has earned it.
     
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    Hospitals tend to be busy round here Tardis - but the waiting lists are enormous. You get put on a waiting list before you go on the real waiting list...so their waiting times seem shorter than they really are. :/
     
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    ^Yeah I'm waiting for a US citizen to latch onto this.

    Prepare for launch in 5...4...3...2...1
     
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    Am i missing something here guys?
     
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    You're basically making the argument against socialized medicine here in the US, I'm not saying you're wrong, but someone will latch on and say "SEE SOCIALISM WILL KILL US ALL DEATH PANELS BLARGHARBL"
     
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    Fuckin hell, sorry guys.
     
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