Javierdude22: If you look left at my avatar you see something we Dutch have been very proud of ever since it took off (literally): The KLM (Or Dutch Royal Airlines). As you may know the KLM is now officially part of Air france, although more or less as a duaghterfirm. I would lie if I said I wasn't totally bugged by this. The KLM has always been something to be very proud of for us Dutchmen, and after the three European biggies (BA, Lufthansa Air France) she was the next in line. The blue swan of the sky (how she is called here). And the goodlooking stewardesses in blue outfits. But now she is in majority hands of France. And from an economic standpoint I understand this. The airline industry is muredr these days and eventually more and more fusions, take-overs, or co-operative arrangements will take place. But the thing is that Amsterdam Schiphol Airport (providing direct and indirect employment to hundreds of thousands of people) might lose out on the deal. The Dutch government received guarantees that Air France would not compromise the economic capacity SChiphol Airport now has for at least 8 years. After that they get carte blanche ( so to speak). They might favor Charles de Gaulle Airport of Paris if the ecomomic tide asks for it. Several financial newspapers already say the Company The Netherlands will eventually lose out on the deal. Hm, I wasn't gonna discuss this particular news event, but I was wondering how you guys feel about any type of pride you feel for anything surging from your home country, homestate, homecity or other geographical boundaries. I know I feel pretty damn proud of some of the things the Dutch have achieved, but a lot of the Dutchmans pride even goes o far that in discussions we compete at city level. 'Rotterdam has the biggest port of the world'. 'Amsterdam has beautiful canals, history, and Schiphol Airport'. And even on the level of really small city with distinct features. Where does your pride come from? How do you feel most connected? If you don't feel any particular pride, why?