Netanyahu, israel and iran

[Chrysippus]

Yes, More than half of US states lack protection for LGBT employees being terminated for their sexual orientation in private industry (a number of those states offer such protections for government employees, but those don't extend to anyone working for a private company).

Just focus on Texas—don’t play the shared shame game. Admit it, until Texas goes purple or blue, your state has a LGBTQ discrimination problem. ‘But they do it too’ is a very weak argument.
Get Louie Gohmert, Greg Abbott and Ted Cruz to help you!

 

[Perados]

Yes, More than half of US states lack protection for LGBT employees being terminated for their sexual orientation in private industry (a number of those states offer such protections for government employees, but those don't extend to anyone working for a private company).

That happens when you have too less gov

 

[TexanStar]

FYI and just a measure of how much this stuff changes over the course of time (just happened a few weeks ago, I hadn't even heard about it till just now when I was google researching), but..

LGBT workers are protected from workplace discrimination, Texas judge says in 'earth-shattering' new ruling

This is a court ruling and it's not yet been tested. The overall ruling was in the company's favor so it won't be getting appealed, and the ruling was made in a district court as opposed to state supreme court, but it's on the record now and I'm sure it'll come up in a future discrimination case.

Overall I wouldn't put my eggs in this basket (our state supreme court skews conservative), I'm more mentioning it from the standpoint that these are live issues actively being worked / fought right now.

Oh...it's in a Federal district court, not state (such lawsuits if they come up in the future would route through the Federal court system, not the state under which the state supreme court presides). So actually a bigger deal than what I was thinking.

Federal court system is no cakewalk either, but it has a better chance than it would in state courts here.

 

[Klingsor]

Yes, More than half of US states lack protection for LGBT employees being terminated for their sexual orientation in private industry (a number of those states offer such protections for government employees, but those don't extend to anyone working for a private company).

I understand that, but thought you were speaking about the likelihood rather than just the legality. Whatever state laws may say (or not say), I'd like to think that in most places nowadays, firing someone simply for being gay marks you as hopelessly antiquated--and subject to societal backlash.

Not that you can't try to hide your true motivation.

 

[TexanStar]

Just focus on Texas—don’t play the shared shame game. Admit it, until Texas goes purple or blue, your state has a LGBTQ discrimination problem. ‘But they do it too’ is a very weak argument.
Get Louie Gohmert, Greg Abbott and Ted Cruz to help you!

Texas has a LGBT discrimination problem and I voted for none of those individuals.

Thank you for your deep insights.

 

[Chrysippus]

Texas has a LGBT discrimination problem and I voted for none of those individuals.

Thank you for your deep insights.

It’s your state—fix it.

 

[Klingsor]

It’s your state—fix it.

While he's at it, I'll fix my state's budget crisis.

 

[TexanStar]

I understand that, but thought you were speaking about the likelihood rather than just the legality. Whatever state laws may say (or not say), I'd like to think that in most places nowadays, firing someone simply for being gay marks you as hopelessly antiquated--and subject to societal backlash.

In most cases yes, it will, but there are industries where people get squirrely and chief among them is public education.

Most businesses will already have policies about discrimination for sexual orientation even if their states don't, but god protect the poor teacher who's students parents find out they mentioned anything in class about having a same sex partner or spouse.

 

[Klingsor]

Most businesses will already have policies about discrimination for sexual orientation even if their states don't, but god protect the poor teacher who's students parents find out they mentioned anything in class about having a same sex partner or spouse.

He can always become Scoutmaster Bob.

 

[TexanStar]

It’s your state—fix it.

A) I know you have a hardon for us -vs- them mentalities, but civil rights issues are everyone's issues, not just the people living in areas that have them.

B) I already vote in a direction that's attempting to fix it, and I speak out on such issues. If you are advocating more drastic resolution like assassinations I suggest you go engage in that kind of illegal activity yourself and leave me out of it, fucking psycho.

 

[Chrysippus]

If you are advocating more drastic resolution like assassinations I suggest you go engage in that kind of illegal activity yourself and leave me out of it, fucking psycho.

it’s always interesting to watch the desperate do this...you might need one of Dr. Max_Polo’s haloperidol (with or withou the meth) prescriptions he so condescendingly prescribes on LPSG.

I don’t advocate criminal activity, so cross me off your list of fucking psychos. Another insult, perhaps? Or a poison bonbon? A pill from Polo?

Bless your heart!

 

[TexanStar]

it’s always interesting to watch the desperate do this...you might need one of Dr. Max_Polo’s haloperidol (with or withou the meth) prescriptions he so condescendingly prescribes on LPSG.

I don’t advocate criminal activity, so cross me off your list of fucking psychos. Another insult, perhaps? Or a poison bonbon? A pill from Polo?

Bless your heart!

If your sum contribution to what was an otherwise interesting discussion is going to continue to be this, you can go back to my ignore list. Laters.

 

[Chrysippus]

While he's at it, I'll fix my state's budget crisis.

Ah, another helpless individual...sob.

 

[Chrysippus]

what was an otherwise interesting discussion

oh, brother... Put me on your ignore list—a small mercy.

 

[Chrysippus]

He can always become Scoutmaster Bob.

And you can be Dorothy!

 

[Klingsor]

And you can be Dorothy!

 

[Chrysippus]

Dorothy makes about as much sense as TS being Scoutmaster Bob.

 

[malakos]

complicated.

Iran is more repressive than the US on gay rights, but more progressive than the US on trans rights.

That is an issue where the terminology breaks down. Iran has a more liberal approach to gender ambiguity not because of any influence from progressive ideology, but rather simply because gender ambiguity was never much of an issue in the Middle East, as it came to be in the West.

 

[tripod]

So... a member piped up that Iran is anti-gay as a sort of casual justification for military intervention.

another member chimes in that Texas is pretty anti-gay while bringing up the gay panic assault/murder defense and the facts that only two states have provisions banning this insane legal tactic...

and a cat fight ensued with insults flying left and right. TexanStar didn't say anything wrong but he was jumped on like he insulted three members' mommas. You guys have to start acting like adults without instantly devolving into "mean girls" without any real provocation.

TexanStar displayed FACTS you do not like and so you turned to insults and bullying.

and all the while, nothing was discussed about Iran or Israel.

At some point you guys will have to learn to argue like adults. Facts and figures shouldn't make anyone angry. You guys have BAD HABITS of debating and putting forth your thoughts... much of it is just being mean and nasty.

We could use this forum as a way of discussing MEANINGFUL topics between different groups of people located in various countries around the world... getting opposing ideologies together in the same room and letting everyone get a taste... like a pot-luck dinner where everyone samples each other's delicacies/trade recipes and enjoy each other's company. We could get at the heart of the matter and tackle some real difficult collective issues that mankind repetitively faces.

Just sayin'.

 

[Chrysippus]

So... a member piped up that Iran is anti-gay as a sort of casual justification for military intervention.

another member chimes in that Texas is pretty anti-gay while bringing up the gay panic assault/murder defense and the facts that only two states have provisions banning this insane legal tactic...

and a cat fight ensued with insults flying left and right. TexanStar didn't say anything wrong but he was jumped on like he insulted three members' mommas. You guys have to start acting like adults without instantly devolving into "mean girls" without any real provocation.

TexanStar displayed FACTS you do not like and so you turned to insults and bullying.

and all the while, nothing was discussed about Iran or Israel.

At some point you guys will have to learn to argue like adults. Facts and figures shouldn't make anyone angry. You guys have BAD HABITS of debating and putting forth your thoughts... much of it is just being mean and nasty.

We could use this forum as a way of discussing MEANINGFUL topics between different groups of people located in various countries around the world... getting opposing ideologies together in the same room and letting everyone get a taste... like a pot-luck dinner where everyone samples each other's delicacies/trade recipes and enjoy each other's company. We could get at the heart of the matter and tackle some real difficult collective issues that mankind repetitively faces.

Just sayin'.

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