Netanyahu, israel and iran

[tripod]

गोमय

Hindi for "bullshit" in case anyone was curious as to what your enlightened response actually was.

 

[Chrysippus]

Hindi for "bullshit" in case anyone was curious as to what your enlightened response actually was.

Yes, this is flyblown bullshit in any language:
We could use this forum as a way of discussing MEANINGFUL topics between different groups of people located in various countries around the world... getting opposing ideologies together in the same room and letting everyone get a taste... like a pot-luck dinner where everyone samples each other's delicacies/trade recipes and enjoy each other's company. We could get at the heart of the matter and tackle some real difficult collective issues that mankind repetitively faces.

 

[tripod]

Yes, this is flyblown bullshit in any language:

We could use this forum as a way of discussing MEANINGFUL topics between different groups of people located in various countries around the world... getting opposing ideologies together in the same room and letting everyone get a taste... like a pot-luck dinner where everyone samples each other's delicacies/trade recipes and enjoy each other's company. We could get at the heart of the matter and tackle some real difficult collective issues that mankind repetitively faces.

In your dark cynical mind where sadism trumps humanity... it would seem like flyblown bullshit.

But to any healthy brain, it would appear as a universally attractive proposition.

 

[Chrysippus]

In your dark cynical mind 1.) where sadism trumps humanity... it would seem like flyblown bullshit.

But to any healthy brain, it would appear as 2.)a universally attractive proposition.

Are you for real?
1,) Sadism trumping humanity??? Really what exactly does this mean? Pick extreme or stupid, even though both apply.
2.) generalized prosaic blather.

Look at your shit, man:
We could use this forum as a way of discussing MEANINGFUL topics between different groups of people located in various countries around the world... getting opposing ideologies together in the same room and letting everyone get a taste... like a pot-luck dinner where everyone samples each other's delicacies/trade recipes and enjoy each other's company. We could get at the heart of the matter and tackle some real difficult collective issues that mankind repetitively faces

‘getting opposing ideologies together in the same room’
You don’t get abstract ideologies in a physical place (the same room)

‘letting everyone get a taste’. You don’t, you can’t , ‘taste’ ideologies.
‘like a pot-luck dinner where everyone samples each other's delicacies/trade recipes and enjoy each other's company. ‘. Metaphorical nonsense: tasting ideologies at a potluck.

‘get at the heart of the matter’, ‘tackle’. More hackneyedmetaphorical circumlocution far from any specific issue.

‘collective issues that mankind repetitively faces’: generalized abstract bullshit that would get redlined in any freshman essay—no concrete issues specified.

If you want to masturbate with words and phrases, please do it in your bedroom with the door shut.

 

[tripod]

A simple plea for civility was twisted, erroneously interpreted, mocked, diminished and disrespected beyond recognition by someone who spends his time on the site disparaging others and hurling as many insults as possible.

Lolz

It's sad to see that another year wiser and older and you are still struggling with showing an ounce of empathy and caring on this forum.

 

[Chrysippus]

A simple plea for civility was twisted, erroneously interpreted, mocked, diminished and disrespected beyond recognition by someone who spends his time on the site disparaging others and hurling as many insults as possible.
Lolz
It's sad to see that another year wiser and older and you are still struggling with showing an ounce of empathy and caring on this forum.

Bind your wounds and learn to write well. I’m still laughing over ‘sadism trumping humanity.’
Bless your heart!

 

[tripod]

Bind your wounds and learn to write well. I’m still laughing over ‘sadism trumping humanity.’ Bless your heart!

It's simple English

Sadism - the tendency to derive pleasure from inflicting pain, suffering, or humiliation on others.

Humanity - humaneness; benevolence.

to "trump" - to be better than, or have more importance or power than another person or thing

You allow your need to insult and diminish others to prevail over your good or "better" nature... it's simple English.

Of course you could have comprehended it but CHOSE to insult and diminish instead... which is an endlessly repeating pattern with you.

 

[Chrysippus]

It's simple English
Sadism - the tendency to derive pleasure from inflicting pain, suffering, or humiliation on others.
Humanity - humaneness; benevolence.
to "trump" - to be better than, or have more importance or power than another person or thing
You allow your need to insult and diminish others to prevail over your good or "better" nature... it's simple English.
Of course you could have comprehended it but CHOSE to insult and diminish instead... which is an endlessly repeating pattern with you.

blah blah blah blah. You should stop now and rest.

 

[Klingsor]

Dorothy makes about as much sense as TS being Scoutmaster Bob.

Then thank goodness I didn't say that.

 

[185248]

Yadda, yadda, yadda............I think that be http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question97419.html

Yabba, dabba, doo...

 

[SlamminSammy]

Netanyahu just had a nation wide live show, where he claimed that Iran wasn't following the agreements of the nuclear deal.

He presented files, some CDs and even was standing in front of a big screen with the words "Iran lied" on it... so, if this isn't a proof I don't know.

Serious, what kind of strange show was it? This really smells like propaganda. He was holding his speech on English and showed CDs and files as if the simple number of them was proof enough.

And all of this just after Pompeo was in Isreal... you really can imagen how he said "My boss gave you a present recently. Now it's time to pay back. I have something you could present."

I really can't tell if the Iran was or still is trying to get the bomb, but what I can tell is that all of this looks more like a present for Trump, after he "gave" Jerusalem to Isreal and that Netanyahu triez to harm his enemy Iran.
But this won't help me to believe in an Iranian nuclear program... it will let my doubts increase. I don't like propaganda

Yet, not once in his presentation did he dare disclose how many nukes his country illegally possesses.
He's just trying to get his big brother, the US, involved in another war against one of his foes in the Middle East so that we'll do his dirty work for him like we did in Iraq & Afghanistan & eventually Syria until his country is the last one standing over there.

 

[Chrysippus]

nukes his country illegally possesses.

A request for clarification: whose / which law(s) did Israel break in developing and possessing nuclear weapons?

 

[Perados]

A request for clarification: whose / which law(s) did Israel break in developing and possessing nuclear weapons?

There are international treaties about it that most nations signed. Like the "Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons" - some treaty Isreal never has signed, but neither is N. Korea a member of this club. So why does the USA complain?

And if Israel has the bomb, why do they bother that Iran tries to develop one as well?


I don't mine if Israel has the bomb (or develops biological weapons), but then they should shut up when others do the same...

 

[phonehome]

"illegal" was/is probably the wrong word to describe Israels' nuclear weapons.

It is that they have had them for like 50 years or so now but their "official position" is that they do not have ANY nuclear weapons which in their minds avoids the entire "if you have x number of them how come .some other country, Iran in this case can not have any"?

I have always been of the belief that is Iran just wanted nuclear weapons that they could have just flat out bought one or a dozen if not a 100 of them in the early 90's after "the fall of the Soviet Union when the term "loose Nukes" first enterd are vocabulary from various "Russian Mafia figures" pretty much the same people who are now called "Oligarch's"

Fully assembled, proven model, all but "guaranteed to work" and all for far less than they have spent trying to do it for themselves for the last almost 20 years.

Had them buried a mile or two underground in some mountain and only a select few at the Ayatollah level would even know they were there.

Maybe they go want to generate electricity and save that oil for the export market or domestic uses that electricity just can not do.

 

[TexanStar]

their "official position" is that they do not have ANY nuclear weapons

Last I saw this is not their official position. Their official position is that they refuse to comment (they neither concede nor deny the existence).

 

[Perados]

"illegal" was/is probably the wrong word to describe Israels' nuclear weapons.

It is that they have had them for like 50 years or so now but their "official position" is that they do not have ANY nuclear weapons which in their minds avoids the entire "if you have x number of them how come .some other country, Iran in this case can not have any"?

Isaerl's position is even more tricky... they say "no comment". No matter how the question is.

You have nuclear weapons? No comment
You don't have nuclear weapons? No comment

You have chemical weapons? No comment
You don't have chemical weapons? No comment

You have biological weapons? No comment
You don't have biological weapons? No comment



You run attacks on Syria? No comment

It's always the same answer if you ask them about their military or security strategy

I have always been of the belief that is Iran just wanted nuclear weapons that they could have just flat out bought one or a dozen if not a 100 of them in the early 90's after "the fall of the Soviet Union when the term "loose Nukes" first enterd are vocabulary from various "Russian Mafia figures" pretty much the same people who are now called "Oligarch's"

no, weapons never were available. What you could get and still can get is "Russian" Plutonium.

Fully assembled, proven model, all but "guaranteed to work" and all for far less than they have spent trying to do it for themselves for the last almost 20 years.

Had them buried a mile or two underground in some mountain and only a select few at the Ayatollah level would even know they were there.

Maybe they go want to generate electricity and save that oil for the export market or domestic uses that electricity just can not do.

no... unlikely.
Nuclear energy is way too expensive and dangerous as to replace oil with it.
The only reason is to create plutonium for weapons. That's why the West, Russia and India have nuclear powerhouses.
Same counts for India, Brazil or Pakistan.

Thenyou have some nations why want it for prestige. To proof their people and the world how advanced their economy is... and you have Japan, who ignore the cost and the danger, because they want to be independent from foreign energy sources.

 

[Chrysippus]

A request for clarification: whose / which law(s) did Israel break in developing and possessing nuclear weapons?

I asked the question knowing it couldn’t answered citing a law or laws broken. It’s interesting that SlamminSammy didn’t respond—but that’s because he couldn’t adduce facts to support his statement.

The fact is that France and the US not-so-tacitly and materially aided Israel’s basis for the development of nuclear weapons from the outset. The nuclear site at Dimona in the Negev was the site of Israel’s first breeder reactor and where Mordecai Vanunu amassed the journalistic proof that Israel developed its nukes, which are not stored there. Why Israel didn’t assassinate him afer he published is a mystery. There is still a very active weapons research program at Dimona, with heavily-subsidized help from Israel’s universities. ‘Blue and White’ didn’t have to steal the knowhow, they were given it by the French and the Brits, and they probably stole nuclear material from the US during the 50s and 60s.
The only thing not known or published is the size of Israel’s stockpile and the types, boosted nukes, or thermonukes, and/or neutron thermonukes. Israel has had a very active stop-nuke program against Iraq (bombing of Osirak and the incomplete, Syrian facility in the desert at Al-Kubar (the North Korean startup), and Iran (joint US centrifuge sabotage with stuxnet).

Again, no laws broken, and a very potent nuclear arsenal.

 

[328982]

It is usually unsuccessful not because the states don't permit the defense, but because setting aside the legality, it's a shit defense and hard to prove it out. Usually the person claiming gay panic ends up with some testimony against them that they either engage in some gay behavior themselves, have been propositioned before without attacking someone, have other circumstances at play like being drunk, etc.

Out of interest, do you think there are circumstances in which a gay panic defence would be justified?

 

[Klingsor]

Out of interest, do you think there are circumstances in which a gay panic defense would be justified?

Exactly those circumstances where a straight panic defense would be justified.

 

[328982]

Exactly those circumstances where a straight panic defense would be justified.

Very droll