New NYT/CBS poll - a snapshot of where we are now - Obama's approval rating at 66%

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  1. D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse

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    The new New York Times/CBS poll gives me hope that the american people are getting Barack Obama. .

    Obama's overall approval rating is at 66%, a new high for NYT/CBS polling, up from 64% last month. 24% disapprove. Nearly all democrats, most independents and 31% of republicans approve. That is about as good as it gets in contemporary politics.

    There is a growing optimism that the country is headed in the right direction. 39% think the country is headed in the right direction now. It was at a low of 7% last October. 53% say we're on the wrong track, which has improved from the 89% in October. I can envision the economy slowly starting to turn around in these numbers since half the game is about confidence, a mind trip, the art of the possible.

    67% say world leaders respect President Obama, 18% say no. In July 2006, 30% said then President Bush was respected by world leaders (if this country is ever going to garner world support for such large ideas as reduction of nuclear arms, reduction of greenhouse gases, etc, and marginalizing those countries like Iran and North Korea who continue to evade warnings.... then it stands to reason you need as much support for your agenda as you can get; so it helps if most of the world community is on the same page. And for this you need an Obama, not a Bush)



    Odds and ends:

    * Almost three-quarters of Americans think it is a good idea to raise taxes on people making more than $250,000 per year. In fact, two-thirds of Americans think the tax code should be changed so that middle-class Americans pay less than they do now and "upper income" people pay more.

    (I'm not sure what to think of this one. If we put it to a vote, and a clear majority of american citizens wish to redistribute wealth via taxing the rich, is that fair and democratic? If the public votes for aspects of socialism, should the people's voices be heard?)


    * Fifty-seven percent of Americans say they are willing to pay higher taxes in order to provide all Americans with health care coverage. While seventy three percent of Democrats favor a tax increase to fund coverage, only 29 percent of Republicans back such a move.


    Poll: Obama Approval Hits New High - 66% - CBS News
     
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    Enough said. Please willtom. You are now looking stupid... what next the Guardian or Air America? The NYT and CBS... they've both been caught red-handed (pun intended) in the coffers of the DNC interests... your "America loves Obama already" deserves as much scrutinty as "you can't criticize him yet, it's too soon". You can't have it both ways...

    Me thinks you are just up to the usual shit-disturbing... carry on, Obamabot.
     
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    Just what is it, exactly, face, that you object to about will's 8 shot 11 foot cumshot? :rolleyes:
     
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  4. D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse

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    face: If we can't accept a New York Times/CBS poll for general information, which is about as "mainstream" as you can get, what would you suggest? One of those obscure heavily-agenda-ed conservative websites that you and star like to obtain information from?


    p.s. I thought these numbers were important, a snapshot of semi-objective reality. This politics thread is flooded with opinion, my slant, your slant, everybody's slant -- but a poll showing the country is optimistic about its new president, about its future, sounds right on target to me. It's an America I'm starting to see all around me now.

    So I wanted to post it and comment. I'd probably have to wait until hell froze over if I waited for you or star or Trinity to post this poll.
     
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    The fact that you consider CBS and NYT "mainstream" speaks volumes. I , unlike you, can admit when a news outlet it biased a la Fox. For you to think CBS is unbiased. nevermind.

    Will... I took a personal straw poll over the last 2 or 3 pages of threads started in Politics... and you CLEARLY led them all with starting threads...

    Unfortunately... mostly just cheerleading and cut/pasting via pro-Obama opinion. Not even a middle of road, non-Obama take.... including how popular Michelle Obama was allegedly received. Seriously... take a moment... and look at the "carpet bombing fawning" you've become in these parts. You are at the point where you think CBS and NYT haven't had (in the past, or now) any self-interest in the DNC or Obama.

    If you were truly unbiased, you'd address why Obama's dissapproval rating has doubled in an astounding short 3 months.... or are we too busy defending Barrah's .m3u playlist to Castro? Much less, a bit less myopic. There's a ton of fair criticsm, and I don't think you'll hear one piece of it, while folk here on the GOP/Libertarian/Conservative side were critical of many of Bush's policies, myself included.

    I just can't see ANY of the Obamabots honest enough to admit they are freaked out that they didn't expect this crazy shit.

    I'm sure... VERY sure I can find a post by you bitching about Bush's deficit spending... yet silence in '09 by you about the manyfold it's become. Thusly, my point.
     
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    Or wait... guessing I'll get what I've noticed the most common defence these days by Obamabots: "Bush did it too".
     
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    Obama's approval rating is at 66% and his disapproval is at 24%, and you think I should -- what again? Address the supposedly "high" disapproval numbers?


    I feel like I'm in an alternative universe, face. Like I'm being sucked into the black hole of your warped logic. It's not comfortable being locked in the warped mindset of face-World. I am Alice. I've gone through the looking glass.

    Put down the bong, face. Those are terrific approval/disapproval numbers.
     
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    I'm curious, why haven't I ever been asked to partake in one of these supposedly "objective" polls. Who are the ones being polled, what area/s of the country, there are hundreds of particulars that are never mentioned, discussed, or clarified. Only the results.
    "75% of Americans support [insert bill/pet project/crisis du jour]."
    "[Candidate A] is leading in the polls, will [Candidate B] be able to appeal the citizens of [next caucus]?"
    Like its a fucking game, heaven forbid we look at the fact that a country is at stake, the economy, people's rights and freedoms. Politics has, for a very long time, been about how a politician can convince people he is doing his job, without actually doing it. So until these little polls have absolute, 100% participation from the entire nation...you'll forgive me for being slightly skeptical.
     
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    The fact that you even debate this is extremely laughable.
    mainstream definition | Dictionary.com

    main⋅stream
    1. the principal or dominant course, tendency, or trend: the mainstream of American culture.

    –adjective
    3. belonging to or characteristic of a principal, dominant, or widely accepted group, movement, style, etc.: mainstream Republicans; a mainstream artist.


    A news or entertainment source can be "mainstream" and "biased" at the same time. They're two entirely different issues and are not always related. Faux News & The Wall Street Journal are also mainstream sources of media even if their viewpoints, although conservatively biased, are accepted by the majority of Republicans.
     
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    once again willtom, as usual, you cherrypick what you like and then leave the rest.

    Indeed, if we want true poll numbers we should include all views...the high end, the low end and in between.

    if you choose the NYtimes/CBS poll, why do you disregard the zogby or Pew polls? they are much different for the same timeframe.

    CNN and NYTimes CBS has it at 66% vs. 30 and 24 respectively...

    what about the other polls?

    Pew is 61%-26%
    Gallup is 61%-28%
    Marist is 56%-30%
    Newsweek is 61%-27%

    two more right leaning organizations are

    fox - 58-32
    rasmussen - 58-41



    if you want an accurate snapshot, you have to take *ALL* views into account...not just ones that confirm your particular biases, or ones that confirm your opponents particular biases

    that accurate snapshot, as averaged by Real Clear Politics poll average for this period comes out to:

    60.9% - 29.8% for the week of 3/31 - 4/6

    which is a bit different.

    you cannot simply take one slant and ignore all other views.
     
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    I base my personal feelings about President's based upon my bank accounts. In that regard Obama is no better than Bush at this point. A popularity contest these polls are. Those in Washington DC are as far removed from me as they have ever been and getting more so everyday. I really think I've given up hope for a better America ? I guess I'll just shut up, live my life for what it's worth and hope the after life improves tremendously ? Wouldn't it suck if heaven was worse than life itself ?
     
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