Nfl

[deleted37010]

Not really. Your best bet may be Somalia. Or Syria. Or North Korea.

Send us a postcard.

or... nambia

 

[bwhip1011]

NFL= USELESS

 

[deleted37010]

an opinion
stated in all caps...
that's novel and effective

 

[bwhip1011]

an opinion
stated in all caps...
that's novel and effective

Yes. I thought so.

Anything else, please?

 

[Jjz1109]

Just imagine how much support the athletes MIGHT a have garnered had they chosen another way to protest racial injustice, rather than choosing to disrespect the flag. Lost opportunity.

 

[Klingsor]

Just imagine how much support the athletes MIGHT a have garnered had they chosen another way to protest racial injustice, rather than choosing to disrespect the flag. Lost opportunity.

Assuming this other method had garnered anywhere near the attention as kneeling for the anthem has received.

 

[Max_Polo]

Just imagine how much support the athletes MIGHT a have garnered had they chosen another way to protest racial injustice, rather than choosing to disrespect the flag. Lost opportunity.

Assuming this other method had garnered anywhere near the attention as kneeling for the anthem has received.

Attention and support are not the same.

 

[Klingsor]

Attention and support are not the same.

You won't get the second without the first.

 

[Jjz1109]

Assuming this other method had garnered anywhere near the attention as kneeling for the anthem has received.

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And assuming it wouldn't have been anywhere near as divisive.

 

[Max_Polo]

You won't get the second without the first.

But you can get a lot of the former which decreases the latter too. Any sense the kneeling has improved race relations so far?

 

[Klingsor]

And assuming it wouldn't have been anywhere near as divisive.

Calling attention to social ills tends to divide people, no matter how conciliatory the approach. We forget, for example, how many people Martin Luther King, Jr., seriously pissed off.

 

[Jjz1109]

Calling attention to social ills tends to divide people, no matter how conciliatory the approach. We forget, for example, how many people Martin Luther King, Jr., seriously pissed off.

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We'll never know what could have been. But can't dispute what a cluster F this has become. And not helping "the cause" in any way.

 

[Klingsor]

But you can get a lot of the former which decreases the latter too. Any sense the kneeling has improved race relations so far?

It's called attention to racial issues, even if that message has since been largely obscured. And regardless of the approach, real improvement can take a while.

 

[b.c.]

Assuming this other method had garnered anywhere near the attention as kneeling for the anthem has received.

It's called attention to racial issues, even if that message has since been largely obscured. And regardless of the approach, real improvement can take a while.

As I've said, Klingsor, their anger over the protest hasn't a fkng thing to do with the anthem or the flag. They (those who oppose it) booed even when the players/owners took a knee BEFORE the anthem, then stood.

They just DON'T WANT to acknowledge or have to be reminded of racial issues, social injustices, and similar issues of concern. They just want to have their entertainment, their fun, appropriate the music, the style, the dialect of people they otherwise couldn't give a FUCK about.

ANY discussion of such issues is, according to THEM, "divisive." That which they dismiss as "political correctness." They prefer it'd be on some tv channel they can switch from... to "la la land," presumably.

 

[Max_Polo]

It's called attention to racial issues, even if that message has since been largely obscured. And regardless of the approach, real improvement can take a while.

I think it's called attention to whether POTUS should tweet about the NFL players, who got invited to the White House and who didn't, that CK still doesn't have a job and thinks there's a conspiracy. I don't see a lot of news from all this about race relations - which is unfortunate, but not at all surprising.

 

[halcyondays]

Yeah, the Poms are always pissed off when one of the colonials wish to depart. There's always been a little bit of friendly rivalry . It's a little funny. In the end though the Union Jack will go. I think we here in Aus only keep it on our flag for sentimental reasons. It really means nothing other than that.

POM! I had to look that one up. Prisoner of Her Majesty. Or pomegranate for the red hue of sunburnt English skin.

I agree flags are meaningless. They're left over from heraldry and battlefield signaling so warriors could tell friend from foe. These days their only use is as a propaganda tool for nationalists. We must have an us versus them, mustn't we?

 

[Chrysippus]

I don't see

You never do, Mimi.

 

[Max_Polo]

As I've said, Klingsor, their anger over the protest hasn't a fkng thing to do with the anthem or the flag. They (those who oppose it) booed even when the players/owners took a knee BEFORE the anthem, then stood.

They just DON'T WANT to acknowledge or have to be reminded of racial issues, social injustices, and similar issues of concern. They just want to have their entertainment, their fun, appropriate the music, the style, the dialect of people they otherwise couldn't give a FUCK about.

ANY discussion of such issues is, according to THEM, "divisive." That which they dismiss as "political correctness." They prefer it'd be on some tv channel they can switch from... to "la la land," presumably.

Generalize much?

Jerry Jones' strategy was a good one. He showed solidarity with his team - on national television - and then showed respect for his flag and county along side them as well. And those who booed were wrong to do so.

You never do, Mimi.

Hey - Little Chrysippus is back with his quick wit and absolute lack of intellectual contribution.

 

[halcyondays]

Does anyone have the feeling this thread has been kicked back and forth?

Yeah we punted on first down.

 

[Max_Polo]

Yeah we punted on first down.

The stands are nearly empty and concessions are closed.