Nigerian 'baby factory' raided and 32 teenage girls freed

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Arizona introduced a law last year called SB-1070 that allows cops to arrest anybody who can't show residency i.d. if stopped (most of these kidnapped kids cannot because they don't have any i.d., so the ones that police find would be deported instead of being raped and killed by their kidnappers).

Yeah, that law was passed to protect the migrant population. :rolleyes:

Fuck right off.
 

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deported back home to the safety of the care of the corrupt government which allowed or even aided their export for sexual slavery in the first place?

neato!
 

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I can just imagine their joy! 'Yay, I've been enslaved, raped and tortured for years and now I don't even get a chance to stay in the US and make a new life where I can maybe regain some control and dignity - I get shit canned back 'home' (though I don't remember it because I was 3 when I left) and left to the mercy of more criminals that will exploit my vulnerabilty! I'm SO LUCKY!!'

Or maybe not.
 

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But... but... they're doing it FOR THE CHILDREN!!

Can't you see how much better off those kids are with their mom stuck in Tijuana?
harsh!

she had no choice in being brought here and raised here.
she tried to get legal permission to stay.
none of this is her fault.
harsh!
 

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Actually, I live in Arizona, and my state cares A LOT. Its not only a horrible network of crime and slavery for profit, which costs millions every year to fight and to try to stop, but the people who are smuggled in to the country who aren't killed or deported end up living here illegally, which means they get to use all of our shit and don't have to pay for any of it. Arizona introduced a law last year called SB-1070 that allows cops to arrest anybody who can't show residency i.d. if stopped (most of these kidnapped kids cannot because they don't have any i.d., so the ones that police find would be deported instead of being raped and killed by their kidnappers). The federal government is now suing Arizona for being unconstitutional by passing the law, and much of the rest of the country has given us nothing but shit about it. People do care, and people are trying, but there are so many stupid people in America who just assume that the whole thing is just a way for racist cops to fuck with Mexicans that it has been a struggle to do it. Hundreds of those kids probably could have been saved from an awful fate if the cops were allowed to do their job without people marching in protest and suing us to repeal the law. But they do. People side with the criminals in this country and are too dumb to realize that they are even doing so.
But about Nigeria- Nigeria has always been one of the most corrupt places on earth. The government is in on most of this type of shit, therefor it won't end. Illegal diamond trade, human trafficking, and sea pirates have all been crimes in northern Africa that made world headlines in the last 10 years. It is just a big ass ghetto where dirty money is just as accepted as clean money, so criminals run the place.

but hey, 14 years for organized slavery operation is a steeper penalty than it sounds like, considering the average life expectancy in Nigeria is like 41.

I don't see how you can think that sending them back there is helping them. Whatever measures we take here it should never be am option to send an abused back to where they were abused. That's like sending a beaten wife right back to her husband. Sounds silly looking at it that way doesn't it??
 

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lol, I knew she was yelling at the government, not me :smile:

Unrelated, but is there a difference between sarcastic and sardonic or are they synonyms? (real question)
 

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lol, I knew she was yelling at the government, not me :smile:

Unrelated, but is there a difference between sarcastic and sardonic or are they synonyms? (real question)

Found this on the webz. Explains it better than i could.

""Both are terms suggest contempt or derision but they are now synonymous. Whether you choose to use one or the other depends on how precise you wish to be with your language.
Sarcastic means, tauntingly contemptuous, derisive, ironically sneering. Sardonic suggests a more haughty irony – a kind of bitter irony or being cynically disdainful. It comes from the Greek name for a Sardinian plant which if eaten caused laughter ending in death. The medical term risus sardonicus describes the facial spasm like some hideous grin that accompanies lockjaw.
Sarcasm also comes from a Greek word, sarkazein meaning to tear flesh. Neither of the two words is friendly. Sarcasm is more down to earth while sardonic implies an arrogant, superior attitude.
Sarcasm and irony are often confused too. Irony is when a statement is made that is clearly the opposite of what is intended eg. "You are so funny", when in fact that is the last thing you wish to imply.""
 

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Did I misread it, or am I the only one who read that the pregnant girls were actually the ones selling their children to a man that then sold them to someone else? Would this mean that the children were the only victims here, and not the women themselves?
 

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I read "Nigerian police have raided a home allegedly being used to force teenage girls to have babies" and "pregnant girls aged between 15 and 17 are being made to make babies for the proprietor" and "he [the proprietor] normally sells the babies to people who may use them for rituals or other purposes".

But you focused on this bit, "Some of the girls told police they had been offered to sell their babies for between 25,000 and 30,000 naira (£113) depending on the sex of the baby." So the girls are offered a few measly quid to keep them quiet and the owner sells the babies on for a minimum of 10 times that (in the following sentence). Yeah - those scared, raped, imprisoned children are just big old evil child abusers for being offered that money!! Burn the witches!!
 

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Did I misread it, or am I the only one who read that the pregnant girls were actually the ones selling their children to a man that then sold them to someone else? Would this mean that the children were the only victims here, and not the women themselves?

completely misread
 

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"Some of the girls told police they had been offered to sell their babies for between 25,000 and 30,000 naira (£113) depending on the sex of the baby."
i took this bit to mean the assailants approached the girls with an offer of money to buy their babies. upon refusal the women where then taken hostage and held captive in a forced breeding camp.

or the offer could have been used to isolate the girl for easier snatching.
 

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Actually, I live in Arizona, and my state cares A LOT. Its not only a horrible network of crime and slavery for profit, which costs millions every year to fight and to try to stop, but the people who are smuggled in to the country who aren't killed or deported end up living here illegally, which means they get to use all of our shit and don't have to pay for any of it.
True story: Most illegals end up paying taxes, but they cannot vote. Many illegals illegally use ill-gotten social security numbers in order to obtain work. Remember, the reason they came here was to work, usually.

Arizona introduced a law last year called SB-1070 that allows cops to arrest anybody who can't show residency i.d. if stopped (most of these kidnapped kids cannot because they don't have any i.d., so the ones that police find would be deported instead of being raped and killed by their kidnappers).
Why? SO it can happen again? So the same gangster gets paid twice for the same kid? Yeah. That makes sense.

The federal government is now suing Arizona for being unconstitutional by passing the law, and much of the rest of the country has given us nothing but shit about it. People do care, and people are trying, but there are so many stupid people in America who just assume that the whole thing is just a way for racist cops to fuck with Mexicans that it has been a struggle to do it. Hundreds of those kids probably could have been saved from an awful fate if the cops were allowed to do their job without people marching in protest and suing us to repeal the law. But they do. People side with the criminals in this country and are too dumb to realize that they are even doing so.
The law reminds too many people of vagrancy laws. It smells funny.
But about Nigeria- Nigeria has always been one of the most corrupt places on earth. The government is in on most of this type of shit, therefor it won't end. Illegal diamond trade, human trafficking, and sea pirates have all been crimes in northern Africa that made world headlines in the last 10 years. It is just a big ass ghetto where dirty money is just as accepted as clean money, so criminals run the place.

but hey, 14 years for organized slavery operation is a steeper penalty than it sounds like, considering the average life expectancy in Nigeria is like 41.
Most of this I agree with, but I am reluctant to describe 15 million kilometers squared "just a big ass ghetto". That is a lot of space, encompassing quite a few countries, and there is more to those nations than their crime rates.
 

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I am reluctant to describe 15 million kilometers squared "just a big ass ghetto". That is a lot of space, encompassing quite a few countries, and there is more to those nations than their crime rates.

The entirety of Sub-saharan Africa is just a big ass ghetto. Might not be PC, but it's the truth.