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You mean those Bel Ami boys are really just Gay for Pay?

It’s well known that most of the BA actors are gay for pay! At the very least, some of them are bi and probably discover it while working at the studio. But it doesn’t really bother me. The high quality speaks for itself.
 
You mean those Bel Ami boys are really just Gay for Pay?
It’s well known that most of the BA actors are gay for pay! At the very least, some of them are bi and probably discover it while working at the studio. But it doesn’t really bother me. The high quality speaks for itself.

It's not really that clear cut, because their culture doesn't draw such strict lines and categories as mainstream UK/US culture does. The phrase "gay for pay" implies 100% heterosexual in their personal life and would never dream of doing anything with the same sex if there wasn't money involved, as if there is a clear delineation between "straight" and "gay". It seems to be almost impossible to conceive that bisexual men even exist.

For the Eastern European culture, at least among these healthy and attractive young men, it seems to be more a matter of them just getting off with their mates, they're young and hot and may as well enjoy it together while they've got it, and whether it "defines" them as one thing or another doesn't really enter into the question. They may well have women at home, but that doesn't mean they can't have sex with men too, and they see no contradiction there. So the phrase "gay for pay" in the way an American might use it doesn't really apply.

Having said that, there are some Bel Ami models who are definitely oriented towards men rather than women, whatever label you might choose to apply to that, and Nino Valens is one of them. Others include Jean-Luc Bisset, Justin Saradon and Ronny Lamar. Hoyt Kogan says he's gay but I remain unconvinced, it seems more like a "pay me and I'll do/say whatever you want" situation. The scene blurbs also play up Jerome Exupery and Helmut Huxley as a couple, but I'm not sure if that's real or not. Raphael Nyon is openly bisexual.

Then you've got other guys – Sven Basquiat, Jim Durden, Pip Caulfield, Viggo Sorensen, Christian Lundgren, Mario Texeira, Bob Marghiella and my personal favourite Marcel Gassion among them – who all clearly love sex with men so much that I would have to call them at minimum bisexual even if they haven't said so out loud. They seem to be a lot more willing to say they enjoy their work regardless what they choose to call it.

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It's not really that clear cut, because their culture doesn't draw such strict lines and categories as mainstream UK/US culture does. The phrase "gay for pay" implies 100% heterosexual in their personal life and would never dream of doing anything with the same sex if there wasn't money involved, as if there is a clear delineation between "straight" and "gay". It seems to be almost impossible to conceive that bisexual men even exist.

For the Eastern European culture, at least among these healthy and attractive young men, it seems to be more a matter of them just getting off with their mates, they're young and hot and may as well enjoy it together while they've got it, and whether it "defines" them as one thing or another doesn't really enter into the question. They may well have women at home, but that doesn't mean they can't have sex with men too, and they see no contradiction there. So the phrase "gay for pay" in the way an American might use it doesn't really apply.

Having said that, there are some Bel Ami models who are definitely oriented towards men rather than women, whatever label you might choose to apply to that, and Nino Valens is one of them. Others include Jean-Luc Bisset, Justin Saradon and Ronny Lamar. Hoyt Kogan says he's gay but I remain unconvinced, it seems more like a "pay me and I'll do/say whatever you want" situation. The scene blurbs also play up Jerome Exupery and Helmut Huxley as a couple, but I'm not sure if that's real or not. Raphael Nyon is openly bisexual.

Then you've got other guys – Sven Basquiat, Jim Durden, Pip Caulfield, Viggo Sorensen, Christian Lundgren, Mario Texeira, Bob Marghiella and my personal favourite Marcel Gassion among them – who all clearly love sex with men so much that I would have to call them at minimum bisexual even if they haven't said so out loud. They seem to be a lot more willing to say they enjoy their work regardless what they choose to call it.

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Thank you so much for this insightful response! What an interesting glimpse into the Bel Ami mystery. I have read the rumors on other forums about Nino liking gay sex and I have personally always felt like Jean Luc also enjoyed it. I’m beginning to think that Christian Lundgren is also a fan as well because he’s just THAT good. I would also agree that Hoyt seems to be in it for the money, but hey, good for him he’s got Jeremy’s bank account now. May I kindly ask how you know who enjoys the sex? We can also DM about it if that’s better for you! :)

I completely agree that most of them enjoy the gay sex even if they’re “straight” by American standards. It’s sometimes evident in the finished content itself. But Bel Ami prides itself on being a company with perfectionist standards, so you have to ask yourself how many takes does it take them to get the shots that they need, or how many erection pills does it take to get the guys to remain hard, etc.

Many of them do have a girl at home. I follow some of their real accounts and it seems like they keep the porn life completely separate from their personal life. At the end of the day, many of them are just playing a character for the money and other perks...but again, it seems like many of them enjoy the sex with the guys too!

I also think that East Europe’s socioeconomic factors play a part in what a hot “straight” guy is willing to do to get some money in their pocket.

If you know more about it, it would be interesting to know what the recruitment and grooming process is like at Bel Ami because they definitely have a type that they strictly adhere to. I would imagine that they have “talent” scouts at gyms, modeling agencies, etc. and it seems like the ever so mysterious George Duroy has final say over who “fits” the brand and who doesn’t. They mention him a lot in the videos but he’s nowhere to be seen!
 
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No problem! I used to work in the industry as a reporter, and while I never met any of the boys except at public events, I did have lunch with one of their publicists and he explained to me how it works over there.

There were a couple of others who seem to be at least bisexual as well, judging by their twitter likes. Trying to judge it by our standards, I go checking through who they follow online and try to figure it out...

Eluan Jeunet for example does follow some female porn stars, but also follows some American male porn stars and naked men retweeters, lots of western celebrities and politicians and fashion houses, so I'm going with genuine bisexual. Derek Caravaggio seems to be the same.

Jarrod Lanvin on the other hand, aside from other Bel Ami models (which I take as more a matter of fellowship than actual interest or desire) is all about the boobs, so straight. Mario Texeira, nothing but other Bel Ami boys, so no real way to tell. Pip Caulfield says "I love dick!" out loud so bi at minimum. It's like a puzzle trying to figure it all out!

But you're right in that, as long as they convince on the screen, which they are a lot better at doing these days than they used to be, then really that's all that matters. At the very least, Bel Ami has never done "No honestly I'm completely straight, except for this dick in my ass." They're just hot young guys enjoying themselves and each other.

I have described Bel Ami in the past as being like the Disney version of gay porn – nothing bad ever happens, it's all sunshine and rainbows and puppies and beautiful young men, you can practically see the cartoon bluebird landing on their shoulder. It comes across as a bit same-ish sometimes, but I'd rather that than the misanthropic horror shows some of the other porn studios give us these days.

One thing that does annoy me though is the way George Duroy describes the scenes and models sometimes – maybe it's a lost-in-translation thing, but they come across as surprisingly rude and insulting about his own models. Things like "Bob may not be the best-looking model we've ever had, but..." and "Herbert has one of the smallest dicks we've ever seen, but..." The model blurb for Nino Valens says he "caused trouble" when he started crushing on Jean-Luc, and the blurb for Marcel Gassion describes him as depressed and basically on the verge of suicidal when he first turned up.

Maybe he thinks he's getting ahead of viewers' potential complaints, but honestly it just comes across as unprofessional the way he describes his own employees sometimes.

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No problem! I used to work in the industry as a reporter, and while I never met any of the boys except at public events, I did have lunch with one of their publicists and he explained to me how it works over there.

There were a couple of others who seem to be at least bisexual as well, judging by their twitter likes. Trying to judge it by our standards, I go checking through who they follow online and try to figure it out...

Eluan Jeunet for example does follow some female porn stars, but also follows some American male porn stars and naked men retweeters, lots of western celebrities and politicians and fashion houses, so I'm going with genuine bisexual. Derek Caravaggio seems to be the same.

Jarrod Lanvin on the other hand, aside from other Bel Ami models (which I take as more a matter of fellowship than actual interest or desire) is all about the boobs, so straight. Mario Texeira, nothing but other Bel Ami boys, so no real way to tell. Pip Caulfield says "I love dick!" out loud so bi at minimum. It's like a puzzle trying to figure it all out!

But you're right in that, as long as they convince on the screen, which they are a lot better at doing these days than they used to be, then really that's all that matters. At the very least, Bel Ami has never done "No honestly I'm completely straight, except for this dick in my ass." They're just hot young guys enjoying themselves and each other.

I have described Bel Ami in the past as being like the Disney version of gay porn – nothing bad ever happens, it's all sunshine and rainbows and puppies and beautiful young men, you can practically see the cartoon bluebird landing on their shoulder. It comes across as a bit same-ish sometimes, but I'd rather that than the misanthropic horror shows some of the other porn studios give us these days.

One thing that does annoy me though is the way George Duroy describes the scenes and models sometimes – maybe it's a lost-in-translation thing, but they come across as surprisingly rude and insulting about his own models. Things like "Bob may not be the best-looking model we've ever had, but..." and "Herbert has one of the smallest dicks we've ever seen, but..." The model blurb for Nino Valens says he "caused trouble" when he started crushing on Jean-Luc, and the blurb for Marcel Gassion describes him as depressed and basically on the verge of suicidal when he first turned up.

Maybe he thinks he's getting ahead of viewers' potential complaints, but honestly it just comes across as unprofessional the way he describes his own employees sometimes.

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Very interesting. What a cool occupation to have! Were you working as a reporter in the last decade? If so, you’re lucky.

BA truly is the Disney of the gay porn industry! Speaking of Disney, IMO, I would have to say that in the last decade Bel Ami has been experiencing some sort of “renaissance” with the high quality of their content. They took what they’re good at and improved on almost every element, which is no easy feat. I have to give kudos to them.

In regards to social media, I’m assuming that you’re talking about their personal/real life accounts as opposed to their Bel Ami accounts? If so, then I may DM you about a few boys who I can’t find the real accounts for!

The Bel Ami social media accounts are clearly overly manufactured to make us think that the boys are as gay as a picnic basket. Everything from the overtly gay pictures, to the silly captions/tags, to who they follow, etc. is all fake when it comes to their Bel Ami profiles. It’s painstakingly obvious, but the gays eat it up.

I agree that the fantasy world that Bel Ami creates is quite impressive, but, again, it’s so obvious that the boys are playing a part during their so called “interviews” or it’s scripted entirely. Not for all of them, but I would say that it’s obvious for many of them.

The sex scenes are very scripted and the studio seems to follow the same formula for everything. But you can’t complain when they are using top notch production and models. The camera closeups that Bel Ami utilizes is unmatched in the industry in my opinion.

I also agree that Georgie Duroy comes off as a jerk. Some of his comments are truly disposable. Some would also say that he’s quite exploitative of his models, but at the same time he’s giving them careers? It’s a tricky battle.

Also, do you happen to know anything about the escorting rumors? There are other threads in which people have said that the porn is just a front for the company and escorting is where the real money is.

As you can see, I’m fascinated by it all o_O
 
Fuck! Don’t discuss it here! Go in private message! Fuck off! You are annoying! Your discussion are totally private, talk about your personal view in private. You are monopolize thread! It doesn’t belong to you! It was not created by you!
 
It's not really that clear cut, because their culture doesn't draw such strict lines and categories as mainstream UK/US culture does. The phrase "gay for pay" implies 100% heterosexual in their personal life and would never dream of doing anything with the same sex if there wasn't money involved, as if there is a clear delineation between "straight" and "gay". It seems to be almost impossible to conceive that bisexual men even exist.

For the Eastern European culture, at least among these healthy and attractive young men, it seems to be more a matter of them just getting off with their mates, they're young and hot and may as well enjoy it together while they've got it, and whether it "defines" them as one thing or another doesn't really enter into the question. They may well have women at home, but that doesn't mean they can't have sex with men too, and they see no contradiction there. So the phrase "gay for pay" in the way an American might use it doesn't really apply.

Having said that, there are some Bel Ami models who are definitely oriented towards men rather than women, whatever label you might choose to apply to that, and Nino Valens is one of them. Others include Jean-Luc Bisset, Justin Saradon and Ronny Lamar. Hoyt Kogan says he's gay but I remain unconvinced, it seems more like a "pay me and I'll do/say whatever you want" situation. The scene blurbs also play up Jerome Exupery and Helmut Huxley as a couple, but I'm not sure if that's real or not. Raphael Nyon is openly bisexual.

Then you've got other guys – Sven Basquiat, Jim Durden, Pip Caulfield, Viggo Sorensen, Christian Lundgren, Mario Texeira, Bob Marghiella and my personal favourite Marcel Gassion among them – who all clearly love sex with men so much that I would have to call them at minimum bisexual even if they haven't said so out loud. They seem to be a lot more willing to say they enjoy their work regardless what they choose to call it.

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I am not sure if Jerome and Helmut are a couple in real life, it seems that it was just an invention of Belami. I really think Jerome is bi at least.
 
I am not sure if Jerome and Helmut are a couple in real life, it seems that it was just an invention of Belami. I really think Jerome is bi at least.

Agreed. All of it is a fantasy! But there are some, like Nino, who are gay, so there's that. I hope Mr. Christian Lundgren is also gay...he seriously seems to enjoy it.

By the way, if you haven't noticed, Groysman likes to have a hissy fit if our posts aren't entirely about Nino ;) just an FYI!
 
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